Sarah Palin??

Started by KidRock51 pages

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Unqualified?
She wasn't a great mayor, she ran a city that had 42 meth labs in it.

Insane?
She thinks god decides the course of the country.

Tyrant?
She is against miranda rights.

1. She is more qualified then Obama based on experience..and hes runnign for president.

2. Gross exageration

3. Where did you hear this?

Originally posted by KidRock
1. She is more qualified then Obama based on experience..and hes running for president.

2. Gross exaggeration

3. Where did you hear this?

1. Look at her performance as Mayor. And she was the governor of Alaska. Hardly gives her experience needed to run such a diverse country as the USA.

2. No it's not she thinks the war is a crusade from god.

3. In a speech, she said she couldn't believe Barack Obama cared whether "suspected terrorists" were read their rights or not.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
1. Look at her performance as Mayor. And she was the governor of Alaska. Hardly gives her experience needed to run such a diverse country as the USA.

2. No it's not she thinks the war is a crusade from god.

3. In a speech, she said she couldn't believe Barack Obama cared whether "suspected terrorists" were read their rights or not.

1. Look at Obamas performance as mayor..I mean as governor..I mean as..2 years in the senate where he mostly voted present? And again she is running for VP, not president as Obama is.

2. lol that doesnt mean she believes god decides the course of the country, can i see the quote on this too..youtube video or something?

3. That is it? That is what makes you believe she "doesnt care about Miranda Rights"?

So you believe that Palin believes if an American is arrested they shouldn't be read their rights, correct?

Originally posted by KidRock
1. Look at Obamas performance as mayor..I mean as governor..I mean as..2 years in the senate where he mostly voted present? And again she is running for VP, not president as Obama is.

In a very real way she is running for president because her running mate could go at any time.

2. lol that doesnt mean she believes god decides the course of the country, can i see the quote on this too..youtube video or something?

She believes in holy wars, war is the most serious and effecting choice you can make as the head of a country. She thinks it came from god.

3. That is it? That is what makes you believe she "doesnt care about Miranda Rights"?

That would be the essence of what she said.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
In a very real way she is running for president because her running mate could go at any time.

She believes in holy wars, war is the most serious and effecting choice you can make as the head of a country. She thinks it came from god.

That would be the essence of what she said.

So enlighten me on how Obama has so much more experience then Palin.

Can you post the quote or speech she said that from?

Again..So you believe that Palin believes if an American is arrested they shouldn't be read their rights, correct? That is essentially it if you said "she doesnt care about miranda rights"?

Originally posted by KidRock
So enlighten me on how Obama has so much more experience then Palin.

Better experience would be a more accurate way of putting it. You can't be more out of touch then living on the other side of the world.

Can you post the quote or speech she said that from?

It was brought up in the interview she did this week.

Again..So you believe that Palin believes if an American is arrested they shouldn't be read their rights, correct? That is essentially it if you said "she doesnt care about miranda rights"?

Well she said she was amazing that Barack Obama cared about it.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Better experience would be a more accurate way of putting it. You can't be more out of touch then living on the other side of the world.

What are we living in the 1700's? Does it take 3 months to get news from New York to Alaska? Also please tell me what experience Obama has over Palin in managing things.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

It was brought up in the interview she did this week.

So post the interview or something..I want to read the entire interivew and get a context.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

Well she said she was amazing that Barack Obama cared about it.

Cared about it for terrorists that is. It is ridiculous to make the accusation "She doesnt care about Miranda Rights" and you know it.

Originally posted by KidRock
What are we living in the 1700's? Does it take 3 months to get news from New York to Alaska?

You really think Alaska deals with the same issues as the USA?

So post the interview or something..I want to read the entire interview and get a context.

You haven't seen it? Have you missed the news all week?

Cared about it for terrorists that is. It is ridiculous to make the accusation "She doesnt care about Miranda Rights" and you know it.

"Suspected" terrorists. I guess in Palins book, the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing is just something other people care about.

If people really think McCain is going to drop dead on day 1, then they're likely not going to vote for him anyway. Nor should they.

The holy war thing is relatively unsubstantiated. Gibson misquoted Palin, then insisted he didn't; and then she gave an explanation that seemed valid enough, essentially praying that what they're doing is right. Again it seems like something that would occur in most churches; just generally not over pipelines.

Saying she's more qualified in executive experience while technically true, ignores that Obama clearly has a greater grasp of global and national issues, which is equally if not more important than having written a budget before. While not necessarily lacking in intellect, she seems to obviously have lacked an inquisitiveness for foreign affairs.

Which is not to say that I think the latter has particularly sterling credentials either, as a one-term Senator who doesn't Chair any major committees and hasn't really offered any legislative landmarks.

Ironically the person most "qualified" for the Presidency is probably Joe Biden.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If people really think McCain is going to drop dead on day 1, then they're likely not going to vote for him anyway. Nor should they.

The holy war thing is relatively unsubstantiated. Gibson misquoted Palin, then insisted he didn't; and then she gave an explanation that seemed valid enough, essentially praying that what they're doing is right. Again it seems like something that would occur in most churches; just generally not over pipelines.

I would hope most churches would pray mainly for peace and that our soldiers come home alive.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
You really think Alaska deals with the same issues as the USA?

Sure..do you really think a Senator from Illinois knows how to deal with the issue of drilling for domestic oil? I bet a Governor from Alaska does.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Y

You haven't seen it? Have you missed the news all week?

I actually havent heard that at all, or seen it posted on other forums that I frequent..I would just like to read the entire thing and get a context of the quote.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

"Suspected" terrorists. I guess in Palins book, the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing is just something other people care about.

Again..does Palin want to rid Americans of the Miranda Rights in your eyes?

Originally posted by KidRock
Sure..do you really think a Senator from Illinois knows how to deal with the issue of drilling for domestic oil? I bet a Governor from Alaska does.

Do you really think that's an important skill compared to foreign affairs when we're at war?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you really think that's an important skill compared to foreign affairs when we're at war?

Of course it is..wasnt there a poll stating most Americans care about the Economy more then they do the wars going on in the upcoming election? And hell wasnt Iraq "fought for oil" anyway? 😉

Plus again..Palin is running for VP.

McCain is more then qualified in the foreign affairs department, which would be one of his main jobs at President.

Originally posted by KidRock
Of course it is..wasnt there a poll stating most Americans care about the Economy more then they do the wars going on in the upcoming election?

That doesn't make it a meaningful skill in any but the most twisted sense.

Originally posted by KidRock
And hell wasnt Iraq "fought for oil" anyway? 😉

Iraq is domestic?

The US government is drilling for oil there?

Originally posted by KidRock
McCain is more then qualified in the foreign affairs department, which would be one of his main jobs at President.

I disagree with him being better at foreign affairs, especially considering that Obama went around the Middle East and Europe managing to draw crowds for his speeches even there.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That doesn't make it a meaningful skill in any but the most twisted sense.

Sure it does.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Iraq is domestic?

The US government is drilling for oil there?

It was more of a joke. You know how the Democrats whine we went to Iraq for oil and thats it? Well Palin would be able to get domestic drilling off the ground and we wouldn't need foreign oil and we wouldnt need the war in Iraq? Get it?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

I disagree with him being better at foreign affairs, especially considering that Obama went around the Middle East and Europe managing to draw crowds for his speeches even there.

So Obama can draw a bunch of hippies and liberal Europeans to his speeches, so that makes him more qualified to deal with men like Putin then McCain who has spent decades in the senate?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I would hope most churches would pray mainly for peace and that our soldiers come home alive.
I interpreted it as praying that what they're doing is right. Which doesn't seem like something uncommon. I'm pretty sure somewhere in there she prays for soldiers' safety.
Originally posted by KidRock
McCain is more then qualified in the foreign affairs department, which would be one of his main jobs at President.
Enlighten me on what exactly McCain has with regards to foreign policy credentials? What insight exactly does chairing the Indian Affairs Committee give him over others?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I disagree with him being better at foreign affairs, especially considering that Obama went around the Middle East and Europe managing to draw crowds for his speeches even there.
Did you just use drawing a large crowd for a speech as indication of foreign policy nuance? ermmhappy

Originally posted by KidRock
It was more of a joke. You know how the Democrats whine we went to Iraq for oil and thats it? Well Palin would be able to get domestic drilling off the ground and we wouldn't need foreign oil and we wouldnt need the war in Iraq? Get it?
The continental shelf has maybe 90 billion bbl of oil and the ANWR area only has an estimated 5 billion bbl of recoverable crude oil over a ten year period. The US consumes something along the lines of 20 million bbl/day and growing. Your country is not going to become energy independent by drilling in Alaska or the OCS.

Originally posted by KidRock
liberal Europeans

Redundant.

Originally posted by KidRock
so that makes him more qualified to deal with men like Putin then McCain who has spent decades in the senate?

Putin isn't a baddie., though. What do you think others think and feel about our president. Hmm?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The ANWR area only has an estimated 5 bbl of recoverable crude oil over a ten year period. The US consumes something along the lines of 20 bbl/day. Your country is not going to become energy independent by drilling in Alaska.

And how long will it take for us to get fully energy independent on wind, solar or nuclear? There must be a short term plan before we reach the long term goal.

Are those even Obamas plans? I don't know..all I hear is "I will find alternative energy sources"..but he never says what, or how.

Originally posted by dadudemon

What do you think others think and feel about our president. Hmm?

Irrelevant

Reducing consumption would presumably help. SUVs are also unsafe around corners.

Neither of your candidates have particularly viable long term plans for the impending oil crunch. Obama's seems more environmentally sound though; while somewhat naively optimistic about sudden breakthroughs in alternative fuels. The latter also applies to McCain's though regarding alternative fuels.