Re: Re: Re: Should married people be allowed to sleep with other people?
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixI don't think you understand what I mean. When I say "In love," I mean with all the passion one has with another...i.e. passion.
Why can't you be in love with someone, and still have sex outside of the marriage?
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
GOOD sex? You actually had to all caps the word? And yes I have had sex many times. And I think you vastly underrate how good sex can be with someone your as you put it, physically compatible with. And it's not about being too timid to touch the other person, it's about not wanting to touch the same person you've touched a hundred times before every day for the rest of your life.This is why allot of marriages fail or why allot of people are so put off by the idea of it, because it seems like such a prison.
As someone who is surprised to have never contradicted an STD, trust me, I have done it quite a bit. Maybe this is just me but I can't do EVERYTHING I would like to do with a random chick. Reasons range from "smelly cat" to STDs but my point is that you can't do everything with everybody.
If you don't find them physically up to par, then don't vow to be with them forever. Keep your ass in shape; that's something you should want to do anyway. Concede some things. Try new stuff.
If you want casual sex, then keep it at that, but I disagree with getting married and then saying "We both can **** whoever we want!" because that would disrespect any religious understanding of marriage (and marriage is inherently a religious concept; for example, I'm not getting married but it is because I do not believe in an organized religion. it is disrespectful either way, I believe).
Marriage is marriage. That's it. Swingers are just on some psuedo marriage bullshit. I suppose you could love someone and **** others but that is not marriage.
You do it or you don't. I do not trust people like that - they will change the rules to suit their needs whenever it favors them.
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Originally posted by Deja~vu
I don't think you understand what I mean. When I say "In love," I mean with all the passion one has with another...i.e. passion.
That's a rather circular definition and doesn't really answer the question.
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Originally posted by Deja~vu
I don't think you understand what I mean. When I say "In love," I mean with all the passion one has with another...i.e. passion.
No I know what you mean. I just think I can be "In love" with someone and still sleep with someone else once in awhile.
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Originally posted by Deja~vu
I don't think you understand what I mean. When I say "In love," I mean with all the passion one has with another...i.e. passion.
The empathy for this idea comes from the "fact" that you will become bored with your mate.
I cant believe I'm even entertaining this juvenile thread. Listen, if you are married and have sex with another person and your wife is ok wiht it, you are still breaking a fundamental traditional vow. If you believe in the Bible, it is stated that Infidelity and Adultery are wrong. If you're not a traditionists and believe in more eastern practices or you're a mormon, then this conversation is meaningless to us who believe in a more western protestant tradition.
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Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
No I know what you mean. I just think I can be "In love" with someone and still sleep with someone else once in awhile.
You see, Phoenix, and the others who agree, have surpassed most of the average human beings need for exclusive attention.
They can have sex with other people and not feel detached to their mate after the fact. Never will they be jealous or feel as if some of the "passion" has left the relationship. They have real love! 💃
Originally posted by chithappens
As someone who is surprised to have never contradicted an STD, trust me, I have done it quite a bit. Maybe this is just me but I can't do EVERYTHING I would like to do with a random chick. Reasons range from "smelly cat" to STDs but my point is that you can't do everything with everybody.
If you don't find them physically up to par, then don't vow to be with them forever. Keep your ass in shape; that's something you should want to do anyway. Concede some things. Try new stuff.
Or have a sexually open relationship which keeps everything fresh anyways. And I think I can vow to be with them forever and still do that.
If you want casual sex, then keep it at that, but I disagree with getting married and then saying "We both can **** whoever we want!" because that would disrespect any religious understanding of marriage (and marriage is inherently a religious concept; for example, I'm not getting married but it is because I do not believe in an organized religion. it is disrespectful either way, I believe).
You do know that you can be married outside of religion, right? And how is it disrespectful? I still love the person, sex doesn't change that.
Marriage is marriage. That's it. Swingers are just on some psuedo marriage bullshit. I suppose you could love someone and **** others but that is not marriage. You do it or you don't. I do not trust people like that - they will change the rules to suit their needs whenever it favors them. [/B]
Wow and you wonder why some people see marriage as a prison? And your definition of the word doesn't have to be the same as everyone else's.
Originally posted by Ghostface00
I cant believe I'm even entertaining this juvenile thread. Listen, if you are married and have sex with another person and your wife is ok wiht it, you are still breaking a fundamental traditional vow.
I can't think of anything in tradition wedding vows that says "and I'm not going to **** other people, even if you let me". Spiritual binding doesn't mean you can't have physical relationships with other people.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
All that is, is an issue of safe sex. I believe in protection 100%Or have a sexually open relationship which keeps everything fresh anyways. And I think I can vow to be with them forever and still do that.
You do know that you can be married outside of religion, right? And how is it disrespectful? I still love the person, sex doesn't change that.
Wow and you wonder why some people see marriage as a prison? And your definition of the word doesn't have to be the same as everyone else's.
1) Protection, during oral sex, works how?
2) Define marriage outside religion, please. This should be funny.
3) Marriage is not secular.
Originally posted by chithappens
Go on...
"I think murder is wrong."
"That man just raped you 6 year old daughter."
"I'll ****ing kill him!"
"Homosexuality is a moral crime."
"Care for some hot bathroom man sex?"
"Hell, yes."
"Marriage is a holy union between man and wife."
"Hey that hooker's pretty good looking."
"Pull over. Now."
Originally posted by Ghostface00
I cant believe I'm even entertaining this juvenile thread. Listen, if you are married and have sex with another person and your wife is ok wiht it, you are still breaking a fundamental traditional vow. If you believe in the Bible, it is stated that Infidelity and Adultery are wrong. If you're not a traditionists and believe in more eastern practices or you're a mormon, then this conversation is meaningless to us who believe in a more western protestant tradition.
Well my idea of a law is one the state passes and you can actually be punished for.
Why do people always tout tradition so much? The world is changing all the time, why not change with it, adapt. Tradition in the way your using it sounds an awful lot like stagnation to me.
Originally posted by chithappens
1) Protection, during oral sex, works how?
Asking your partner about their medical background and if your unsure then don't do oral sex.
2) Define marriage outside religion, please. This should be funny.
3) Marriage is not secular.
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Originally posted by chithappens
You see, Phoenix, and the others who agree, have surpassed most of the average human beings need for exclusive attention.
Age of Aquarius biotch.
And how is the need for exclusive attention not selfish compared to the idea that you and your partner can have sex with other people?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"I think murder is wrong."
"That man just raped you 6 year old daughter."
"I'll ****ing kill him!""Homosexuality is a moral crime."
"Care for some hot bathroom man sex?"
"Hell, yes.""Marriage is a holy union between man and wife."
"Hey that hooker's pretty good looking."
"Pull over. Now."
Obviously, people do not follow allow morals that they mean to go by but the only "extreme" situation is the first one.
I try to only surround myself with people who stick to their set morals until those extremes come about (and we all believe vastly different things).
My point is that marriage is not secular and is supposed to be a vow in front of God and whatever witnesses you have. People who are married are supposed to be physically faithful, or did the media just decide to obsess over husbands cheating because of some liberal feminist BS?
Originally posted by chithappens
I try to only surround myself with people who stick to their set morals until those extremes come about (and we all believe vastly different things).
So do you keep tabs on them or do you just surround yourself with people who say they have set moral systems?
Originally posted by chithappens
People who are married are supposed to be physically faithful
According to?