Should married people be allowed to sleep with other people?

Originally posted by Ghostface00
I cant believe I'm even entertaining this juvenile thread. Listen, if you are married and have sex with another person and your wife is ok wiht it, you are still breaking a fundamental traditional vow. If you believe in the Bible, it is stated that Infidelity and Adultery are wrong. If you're not a traditionists and believe in more eastern practices or you're a mormon, then this conversation is meaningless to us who believe in a more western protestant tradition.

Originally posted by chithappens
Obviously, people do not follow allow morals that they mean to go by but the only "extreme" situation is the first one.

I try to only surround myself with people who stick to their set morals until those extremes come about (and we all believe vastly different things).

My point is that marriage is not secular and is supposed to be a vow in front of God and whatever witnesses you have. People who are married are supposed to be physically faithful, or did the media just decide to obsess over husbands cheating because of some liberal feminist BS?

You do know people can get married outside of a religious organization right?

I try to surround myself with people who are fun, happy and nice. I don't really care what they choose to call their imaginary friend.

Although I did get in trouble in one class at school (I went to a catholic high school) and the teacher said "God speaks in many voices and names, it doesn't matter what name you give him, he will still love you" So during a prayer at our school mass I said "Praise be to Megatron." The teacher did not laugh (sourpuss)

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Although I did get in trouble in one class at school (I went to a catholic high school) and the teacher said "God speaks in many voices and names, it doesn't matter what name you give him, he will still love you" So during a prayer at our school mass I said "Praise be to Megatron." The teacher did not laugh (sourpuss)

Megatron is a bad guy. You should've gone with "Praise be to Optiumus Prime."

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Age of Aquarius biotch.

And how is the need for exclusive attention not selfish compared to the idea that you and your partner can have sex with other people?

*holds temple* Part of the vows include being faithful.

Two things to keep in mind:

1) "Open marriage" is not the same thing as "faithful marriage. In fact, "faithful marriage" is how marriage is defined. "Open marriage" is entirely different and should be coined differently.

In contrast, some people call those who believe in God, but not an organized religion, "spiritual" but not "religious" because that would not make sense, obviously. Same thing here.

2) Everyone wants to feel important. Either way is "selfish" but that is determined by the comfort level of the couple.

I hardly think that if a husband was ****ing a random chick every night for a month and then touched his wife on one weekend that she would be ok with that.

In theory, it's a cute idea but in application problems still arise.

Marriage exists outside of God, You can get a civil marriage or you can be married by a list of others outside of any religious group.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Megatron is a bad guy. You should've gone with "Praise be to Optiumus Prime."

Megatron was just misunderstood. 😈

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So do you keep tabs on them or do you just surround yourself with people who say they have set moral systems?

According to?

- I trust the people I surround myself with and have known each of them for years. That's it.

Don't make this some egotist battle because that is far from my point.

I try. There is no absolute way to know they always do what they say they will.

- As far as I know, the three main monotheistic religions, each support both spouses being faithful. I only know one man being faithful to his wife. I'm sure everyone found a loophole I don't know about. 😆

Originally posted by chithappens
- I trust the people I surround myself with and have known each of them for years. That's it.

Don't make this some egotist battle because that is far from my point.

I try. There is no absolute way to know they always do what they say they will.

- As far as I know, the three main monotheistic religions, each support both spouses being faithful. I only know one man being faithful to his wife. I'm sure everyone found a loophole I don't know about. 😆

What about marriage outside religion?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Megatron is a bad guy. You should've gone with "Praise be to Optiumus Prime."

Originally posted by chithappens
*holds temple* Part of the vows include being faithful.

Never stated be require limiting the physical relationship, unless you've got some crazy wedding vows where you come from.

Originally posted by chithappens
1) "Open marriage" is not the same thing as "faithful marriage. In fact, "faithful marriage" is how marriage is defined. "Open marriage" is entirely different and should be coined differently.

Hence the phrase open marriage.

Originally posted by chithappens
2) Everyone wants to feel important. Either way is "selfish" but that is determined by the comfort level of the couple.

I'm pretty sure that any linguist will tell you that "You can only have sex with me." is more selfish than "You can have sex with other people if you'd like."

Originally posted by chithappens
I hardly think that if a husband was ****ing a random chick every night for a month and then touched his wife on one weekend that she would be ok with that.

In theory, it's a cute idea but in application problems still arise.

You realize the basis of the idea is that they're okay with it? People who aren't okay with it don't do it so there's no problem.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
What about marriage outside religion?

Know nothing of it, but that is not marriage.

That is something else altogether. It should be defined as such.

When people mention the word "marriage", the assumption is religious.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Never stated be require limiting the physical relationship, unless you've got some crazy wedding vows where you come from.

Hence the phrase open marriage.

I'm pretty sure that any linguist will tell you that "You can only have sex with me." is more selfish than "You can have sex with other people if you'd like."

You realize the basis of the idea is that they're okay with it? People who aren't okay with it don't do it so there's no problem.

Then rename the damn title to people in "open marriage."

Originally posted by chithappens
Know nothing of it, but that is not marriage.

That is something else altogether. It should be defined as such.

When people mention the word "marriage", the assumption is religious.

No sorry not in today's world. A know a large amount of people who were married outside of religion.

Originally posted by chithappens
Then rename the damn title to people in "open marriage."

No, why should we? Last I heard you didn't own a copyright on the word.

Originally posted by chithappens
- I trust the people I surround myself with and have known each of them for years. That's it.

Don't make this some egotist battle because that is far from my point.

I try. There is no absolute way to know they always do what they say they will.

Which is my point. People are happy to claim they believe X, Y and Z but that isn't evidence for what they'll actually do. Given the sheer number of people who make claims about their beliefs/morals and are then caught breaking them I'd say it's more than reasonable to assume that most people will adjust/rationalize/ignore any supposed moral system they have when it becomes inconvenient.

Originally posted by chithappens
- As far as I know, the three main monotheistic religions, each support both spouses being faithful. I only know one man being faithful to his wife. I'm sure everyone found a loophole I don't know about. 😆

They did. It's typically "I wanted to" or "I didn't think I'd be caught."

Originally posted by chithappens
Then rename the damn title to people in "open marriage."

I'm afraid I lack that particular power. Besides open marriage is still marriage.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
No, why should we? Last I heard you didn't own a copyright on the word.

Originally posted by chithappens

In contrast, some people call those who believe in God, but not an organized religion, "spiritual" but not "religious" because that would not make sense, obviously. Same thing here.

If we are talking simply about two people who agree from the beginning to have sex with other people, what the hell was this discussion about from the beginning?

It's become a statement, not a topic of discussion.

Damn, some of you all act egoist on the dumbest shit.

Are you arguing with yourself now?

Originally posted by chithappens
If we are talking simply about two people who agree from the beginning to have sex with other people, what the hell was this discussion about from the beginning?

Going out on a limb I'm going to say, "should they be allowed to do that?".

Should I be allowed to eat popcorn while on the shitter?

If I want, yes.

What business would it be of yours?