Thanos vs Onslaught (Xavier/Magneto/Franklin/Nate)

Started by Aster Phoenix30 pages

What issues was that and what happened on the next panel?

Next panel Galactus eats him.

Okay was that from a What if issue or something?

Not sure. I think it might be when The Hunger invades, but I'm not sure. I'll have to search for it when I get home.

I'm joking.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Didn't onslaught actually rip the gem of cyttorak out of the classic juggernaut? Thanos wouldn't be able to beat the classic Juggernaut. On slaught also reacreated the enemies of the avengers down to the power and fighting styles. Thanos can't do that. he'd be over whelmed. It was also onslaught's power that created the bubble universe that housed the heroes reborn. I can't see thanos beating onslaught.

Cain was depowerd and psyched out.

Thanos stomps anything lesser than 8th day juggs.

Not just because you say so I'm afraid. You actually have to prove he can beat this powerset and that he can beat this type of entity.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
He used Franklin's power to create his citadel and evolve.

Was that his natural power or tech? Keep in mind there's no prep here. And even if he did that, it doesn't mean he has a way to destroy a psionic entity like Onslaught. So he gave a fight to X-man, did he beat him?

What the hell is MW Thanos + PG?

I don't hate Thanos and I am not a big fan of Onslaught or his storyline. But I don't base fights on who I like.

It's not always about that. Even if Thanos has beaten someone that powerful, you still have to prove he can beat and overcome this specific person and this type of power set.

1- That's it!? Yippie Kay Yeah! Thanos hang with Odin, and survive potential planet destruction blast.

2- Natural power. And he gives him a fight and loose, but a Thanosi is habitually more feeble that the real Thanos. And that's without saying that this Thanosi acted like a moron.

3- Warrior Madness Thor (so, it's Thor X 10) + Power Gem (In that state, he have OWNED Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, and some others before being stopped by Thanos, single handly.)

Originally posted by Mindset
How are you partially caught off guard?

Wow, Thanos did a better job than Xavier did 20 years ago.

What is Prof X 20 years ago when comparring with actual? Did he had a huge power-up that I don't know?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Not just because you say so I'm afraid. You actually have to prove he can beat this powerset and that he can beat this type of entity.

Thanos deals with much more diverse and powerful beings than Juggernaut.

Thanos isn't just a one trick dog. He's taken on Tyrant with all the bravado of a Vin Diesel flick and managed to survive, make a profit off of his efforts and wreak Tyrants fortress.

Thanos is the shit.

Wait, are you talking to me?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Not just because you say so I'm afraid. You actually have to prove he can beat this powerset and that he can beat this type of entity.

Thanos is a skyfather lvler. He poved it by Fighting Tyrant and nearly statlemated Odin (and that's before his last power-up).

Cyttorak is a Skyfather lvler too. So we can assume that Thanos and Cyttorak have more in common in term of power that Thanos and Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
1- That's it!? Yippie Kay Yeah! Thanos hang with Odin, and survive potential planet destruction blast.

2- Natural power. And he gives him a fight and loose, but a Thanosi is habitually more feeble that the real Thanos. And that's without saying that this Thanosi acted like a moron.

3- Warrior Madness Thor (so, it's Thor X 10) + Power Gem (In that state, he have OWNED Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, and some others before being stopped by Thanos, single handly.)

So can someone show me a scan of him overcoming reality altering power like Franklin's?

Even if he can do better against Big G then Prof X it proves nothing. Prof X couldn't resist Onslaught's control either.

And still no one has shown that Thanos can do anything against a psionic entity like Onslaught without the armor.

Once again, you need to prove he can beat this type of opponent, not just that he's beaten stronger people.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
What is Prof X 20 years ago when comparring with actual? Did he had a huge power-up that I don't know?
The power up that most comic characters get over several decades...you're seriously trying to argue that Xavier 20 years ago is as strong as he is now.

Not to mention that he did recently get an actual power up, but even barring that, feats he has pulled off are obviously better. 😐

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Not just because you say so I'm afraid. You actually have to prove he can beat this powerset and that he can beat this type of entity.

Proof that he can beat effortlessly Juggernaut:

- He have the strengt to beat in some punch Silver Surfer, something that Hulk have never done before.

- His telepathy seems better that Xavier, if we compare both they're showing against Galactus

- Hulk have already take out the Helmet of Juggernaut

- Xavier already put down Juggernaut by mindraping him.

So, Thanos just have to take out the helmet, and mess with his mind, like he did with the Fallen One. If he decide to just bfr his ass somewhere else.

Originally posted by Mindset
The power up that most comic characters get over several decades...you're seriously trying to argue that Xavier 20 years ago is as strong as he is now.

Not to mention that he did recently get an actual power up, but even barring that, feats he has pulled off are obviously better. 😐

Maybe. Some characters got improvement, some have been powered down. I don't know enough the character to argue with you on him, but do you think Xavier is now powerful enough to compete with Thanos or Galactus in a telepathy fight?

Why do I care if he can beat Juggs?

Juggernaut is not a massively powerful Psionic Entity with the powers of these people.

He is a completely different type of opponent then Juggs so how Thanos does against Juggs is irrelevant.

I don't think your getting the point I am trying to make here.

You need to prove that Thanos can beat him, not people stronger then him.

People have different types of powers and physiologys. You have to prove he is effective against both of these.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So can someone show me a scan of him overcoming reality altering power like Franklin's?

Even if he can do better against Big G then Prof X it proves nothing. Prof X couldn't resist Onslaught's control either.

And still no one has shown that Thanos can do anything against a psionic entity like Onslaught without the armor.

Once again, you need to prove he can beat this type of opponent, not just that he's beaten stronger people.

Can you prove that Onslaught was using full power of Franklin? Because Franklin have already create a pocket universe. And Onslaught just "evolved" and "created" a forteress. This is two different scale.
But still, I'm a cool dude, so I will search Thanos vs The Maker in the respect thread of Thanos,

Yeah, but Thanos resisted to Moondragon with the Mind Gem, and that's my friend, is a really good showing of tp resistence, when you know that Moondragon have already mindraped an entire planet without the gem.

Fought an all-out Odin isn't enough?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Maybe. Some characters got improvement, some have been powered down. I don't know enough the character to argue with you on him, but do you think Xavier is now powerful enough to compete with Thanos or Galactus in a telepathy fight?

He could compete with Thanos, could he beat him, I doubt it.

Same way Thanos would fail to beat Galactus telepathically.

But Onslaught is way more powerful than Xavier, so comparing Thanos feat against Galan, and Xaviers (which is already erroneous), and trying to use it to show Thanos is in the same league as Onslaught in tp, really doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Can you prove that Onslaught was using full power of Franklin? Because Franklin have already create a pocket universe. And Onslaught just "evolved" and "created" a forteress. This is two different scale.
But still, I'm a cool dude, so I will search Thanos vs The Maker in the respect thread of Thanos,

Yeah, but Thanos resisted to Moondragon with the Mind Gem, and that's my friend, is a really good showing of tp resistence, when you know that Moondragon have already mindraped an entire planet without the gem.

Fought an all-out Odin isn't enough?

No, because Odin is not a Psionic Entity and doesn't have the same powerset.

Re-read my last message.