Thanos vs Onslaught (Xavier/Magneto/Franklin/Nate)

Started by WhiteWitchKing30 pages

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

And still no one has shown that Thanos can do anything against a psionic entity like Onslaught without the armor.

Without his armor. LOL. Without his armor he was beaten by a handful of heroes, with the majority below Surfer durability and no matter manipulation. They jumped at him. LOL. Note the majority of these are below Surfer durability and power level. The same Surfer that got one shoted by Odin, the same Odin that took panel after panel trying to put Thanos down, shot after shot, hmmm...sounds like that Tyrant fellow.


Once again, you need to prove he can beat this type of opponent, not just that he's beaten stronger people. [/B]

His body is strong enough to handle shots from Odin whereas guys like Annihilus, Surfer, Ulik, and Drax get one shotted. If the group of heroes can do it, how can there be any doubt that Thanos can't?

Onslaught was not using all of Franklin's power to its full extent.

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And the end:

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Originally posted by Mindset
Onslaught was not using all of Franklin's power to its full extent.

Exactly. And there's no proof that he could have done it!

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Without his armor. LOL. Without his armor he was beaten by a handful of heroes, with the majority below Surfer durability and no matter manipulation. They jumped at him. LOL. Note the majority of these are below Surfer durability and power level. The same Surfer that got one shoted by Odin, the same Odin that took panel after panel trying to put Thanos down, shot after shot, hmmm...sounds like that Tyrant fellow.

His body is strong enough to handle shots from Odin whereas guys like Annihilus, Surfer, Ulik, and Drax get one shotted. If the group of heroes can do it, how can there be any doubt that Thanos can't?

What your ignoring is HOW they beat him. They all were absorbed by him and defeated him by spreading out his essence among so many people that he was effectively dissipated amongst them.

Can Thanos without prep replicate this method?

Originally posted by Mindset
Onslaught was not using all of Franklin's power to its full extent.

Why not? And that's the question at hand. If he had full excess to Franklin's power, I don't see what limits him from breaking free of his armor. Or he couldn't do it himself because he did not have full excess, breaking that armor would allow him full access. 😕

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
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http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=2cd8c_maker2.jpg

And the end:

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Where in there is he resisting reality altering power? Point it out to me.

And he even said she was vulnerable because she took a mortal form. It says nothing about how he would fair against an incorporeal psionic entity.

Wasn't Franklin fighting back, I don't exactly remember, I read it years ago.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Where in there is he resisting reality altering power? Point it out to me.

And he even said she was vulnerable because she took a mortal form. It says nothing about how he would fair against an incorporeal psionic entity.

That's round two. Round one consisted of him and her having a conversation and she went beserk on everyone, crating a huge crater knocking him out temporarily, while everyone else around were turned to the size of an ant. He was caught off guard in the first, the second he dominated her.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Where in there is he resisting reality altering power? Point it out to me.

And he even said she was vulnerable because she took a mortal form. It says nothing about how he would fair against an incorporeal psionic entity.

The Maker is the Beyonder, my dear friend. His power are reality alternig basis. I suppose you do know the Beyonder?

And for Thanos resisting matter manipulation, go read his respect thread. You could find him riding in the Nexus of reality, on his chair.

Wasn't Maker weakened from being imprisoned?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Why not? And that's the question at hand. If he had full excess to Franklin's power, I don't see what limits him from breaking free of his armor. Or he couldn't do it himself because he did not have full excess, breaking that armor would allow him full access. 😕

To much piss took place in the final moments of Onslaught. Didn’t X-Man and Nate broke free, around the same time the heroes sacrificed themselves, with the follow up with the standing heroes retaliation?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The Maker is the Beyonder, my dear friend. His power are reality alternig basis. I suppose you do know the Beyonder?

And for Thanos resisting matter manipulation, go read his respect thread. You could find him riding in the Nexus of reality, on his chair.

Your saying that is the beyonders only power? Because it looked like she was shooting him with energy blasts, not trying to alter reality.

And he doesn't have his chair in this fight.

And you still haven't proven Thanos without prep can replicate the only proven method of dealing with a psionic entity like Onslaught.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Your saying that is the beyonders only power? Because it looked like she was shooting him with energy blasts, not trying to alter reality.

And he doesn't have his chair in this fight.

And you still haven't proven Thanos without prep can replicate the only proven method of dealing with a psionic entity like Onslaught.

The chair was a mean of transportation, it doesn't protect Thanos of nothing.

And you still haven't proved that Onslaught could be a match for Thanos,

It's your turn to prove us that he's worty of your argumentations. Because the way I see it, he's just a more powerful mutant. Maybe in the range of a Morg Power Cosmic/Water Of Life.

So thats basically your way of saying you can't prove what I;ve asked for?

I think the best Thanos can do is stalemate him. He cannot replicate the only way proven to deal with him and you still haven't shown me that Thanos can resist the following.

The combined mental control of Prof X and Nate Grey
The reality altering power of Franklin.
The TK of Nate Grey

Franklin has tp and tk too.

Mags has some tp.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Maybe. Some characters got improvement, some have been powered down. I don't know enough the character to argue with you on him, but do you think Xavier is now powerful enough to compete with Thanos or Galactus in a telepathy fight?
Thanos never actually used his own telepathy power (if he has any) against Galactus. He used Moondragon as the telepathic link. Even when he had telepathic control over Xavier (in Infinity Crusade) he did so with the use of a device.

BTW, Xavier had NO TROUBLE communicating with Galactus in X-Men 92 (or 93) when they were on the Skrull homeworld.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Your saying that is the beyonders only power? Because it looked like she was shooting him with energy blasts, not trying to alter reality.

And he doesn't have his chair in this fight.

And you still haven't proven Thanos without prep can replicate the only proven method of dealing with a psionic entity like Onslaught.

Note that Skreet came later after Maker was gone. She wasn't around during the attack.

He transferred the feelings of a couple billion skrulls into Galactus' mind if I remember correctly.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Note that Skreet came later after Maker was gone. She wasn't around during the attack.

So he can survive an explosion. Congrats. It still doesn't prove he can beat a creature like Onslaught and his specific powerset.