Thanos vs Onslaught (Xavier/Magneto/Franklin/Nate)

Started by Lord S30 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
He transferred the feelings of a couple billion skrulls into Galactus' mind if I remember correctly.
Not to communicate with him...he simply went into his psi-mode...or whatever...and flew toward him.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So thats basically your way of saying you can't prove what I;ve asked for?

I think the best Thanos can do is stalemate him. He cannot replicate the only way proven to deal with him and you still haven't shown me that Thanos can resist the following.

The combined mental control of Prof X and Nate Grey
The reality altering power of Franklin.
The TK of Nate Grey

I want proof that Onslaught used powers at full extent of Franklin and Nate Grey. Otherwise, it should be considered that Onslaught was to dummy to do so.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I want proof that Onslaught used powers at full extent of Franklin and Nate Grey. Otherwise, it should be considered that Onslaught was to dummy to do so.

No it should not be. He absorbed them and assimilated their powers.

And you still have not proven Thanos without prep can replicate the only known way to beat Onslaught.

Classic Onslaught: Apparently he retained Magnetos and Xavier powers at full capacity (remember he is a psionic entity with no human limitations). His psi powers where greatly augmented as well, this is due to the fact that he was channeling psi from the planets collective conscious from the astral plane.

w/Franklin: he retained some of his reality warping powers (not all), plus his powers in general got a bump.

w/Nate: same with Franklin, he taps into his psi potential (not all), plus his powers in general got another bump.

His Most impressive feats battle wise would be:
Mind Raping Juggernaut with his helm on, ***** slapping, and plucking out his gem from his chest.
Taking on the a group of X-Men
Taking on X-Men and FF4.
Taking on X-Men and Avengers
Taking FF4, with Apo and Cable
Submitting Nate Grey.
Taking on a bunch of heros, [Hulk, X-Men, Avengers, FF4 etc..]

Really the only disappointing part, was how he handled his power at his prime. Before he became power drunk, fairly ruthless and smart villain.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I want proof that Onslaught used powers at full extent of Franklin and Nate Grey. Otherwise, it should be considered that Onslaught was to dummy to do so.
He was very stupid...no arguments here.

As I said we MIGHT be looking at a stalemate here. Thanos cannot deal with his energy form. But whether or not Onslaught can take out Thanos is the question.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
No it should not be. He absorbed them and assimilated their powers.
That is a misconception...he absorbed and assimilated the powers of Magneto and Xavier only...he was using Nate and Franklin sort of like a Power gem.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
So he can survive an explosion. Congrats. It still doesn't prove he can beat a creature like Onslaught and his specific powerset.

Did you even look at the panels and read it. Everyone around thing was turn to the size of ants and Thanos was only knocked out. Wasn't just "some" explosion. Mxyn and the rest of them were normal size standing next to Thanos and then ended up the size of ants after that blast.

You asked for reality warp, I just give up reality warp. And that was Thanos uprepared for her outburst. Next they fight, Thanos dominates her.

Wait...wait...just who did Onslaught beat again? Oh...wait...that's right. He kidnapped Franklin and...OMG Nate Grey. And he um...potentially has access to Franklin's full power.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
As I said we MIGHT be looking at a stalemate here. Thanos cannot deal with his energy form. But whether or not Onslaught can take out Thanos is the question.
Thanos would be smart enough to know that he would have to find something to fill that energy form...and it'd be silly to think he won't find anything.

Okay then how does he deal with the mind control powers of Prof X and Nate Grey?

How does he deal with Nate's TK powers?

And how can he beat his energy form since he can't replicate the only known way to do it?

Originally posted by Lord S
Thanos would be smart enough to know that he would have to find something to fill that energy form...and it'd be silly to think he won't find anything.

It's a no prep fight, he doesn't get to plan ahead.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
As I said we MIGHT be looking at a stalemate here. Thanos cannot deal with his energy form. But whether or not Onslaught can take out Thanos is the question.

About that energy form. What did it exactly do other than float about?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
It's a no prep fight, he doesn't get to plan ahead.
Are you underestimating the intelligence of Thanos? You really believe he won't be able to improvise in the face of a being as dumb as a brick?

Originally posted by Lord S
Are you underestimating the intelligence of Thanos? You really believe he won't be able to improvise in the face of a being as dumb as a brick?

Okay is facing the energy form of Onslaught, due to it being a no prep fight he doesn't have anything other then his powers to rely on.

Explain to me how he will improvise.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
About that energy form. What did it exactly do other than float about?

What did it need to? At that point he though he was completely above them and that they weren't a problem anymore.

As I said we might be looking at a stalemate as long as Thanos can resist the other powers I mentioned.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
[B]Okay then how does he deal with the mind control powers of Prof X and Nate Grey?

He totally dismissed Moondragon's attack as nuissance during Annihilation and proceeded to k.o. Phylla and kidnap Moondragon.


How does he deal with Nate's TK powers?

What's TK going to do? Onslaught's not winning with tk and throwing Thanos around.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Okay is facing the energy form of Onslaught, due to it being a no prep fight he doesn't have anything other then his powers to rely on.

Explain to me how he will improvise.

What exactly do we know about this energy field? Thanos synthesizes cosmic energy...surely this energy field can be manipulated. Even the Silver Surfer would be able to do that.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He totally dismissed Moondragon's attack as nuissance during Annihilation and proceeded to k.o. Phylla and kidnap Moondragon.

If your saying Moondragon is more powerful then Prof X and Nate Grey Combined then you had better have scans to prove that and don't use ones when she had the mind gem.

What's TK going to do? Onslaught's not winning with tk and throwing Thanos around.

Prove it.

Originally posted by Lord S
What exactly do we know about this energy field? Thanos synthesizes cosmic energy...surely this energy field can be manipulated. Even the Silver Surfer would be able to do that.

Okay your really reaching there. You have no proof how it would effect Psionic Energy.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
What issues was that and what happened on the next panel?

Found it. It was from Thanos #3. In the next panel, Thanos vanished. It should also be noted that Thanos was only able to do as much as he did because he had Moondragon's help.