Originally posted by quanchi112thor brawled with red hulk. superman wouldnt brawl with red hulk. Its no that hard of a concept.
Rulk is powerful enough to crush Thor. Different power level entirely.Comparing Spiderman to the Silver Surfer is laughable while Rulk has beaten down a Watcher and Thor,easily.
Supes cant bfr him off of the planet. Thats why and he cant do enough damage to keep the Rulk down.
and again being stronghas nothing to d owith your ability to cling to the ground
LOL. Saying something doesn't actually make it fact you realize. see watch.
Superman could take out the entire marvel universe at the same time, and use Thanos hair as floss when he is done slaughtering them all.
That doesn't make it true though. You did at least answer partially this time. I asked you to explain WHY he can't BFR him. And how is the rulk supposed to hit him? Maybe if I ask enough times, you will answer.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678i tend to think he might still brawl but have given you the benefit of the doubt.
no, seeing as apparently youve been ignoring the context of that fight and youre trying to use konvict to prove he would brawl, however superman has shown he doesnt brawl with the mindsets of batman and wonder woman in himwhy would that matter, supermans mindset has little barring on his strength, he would be jsut as strong. all feats are usable however the difference is superman is more calculating
If all feats are usable for you why not against,seems kinda unfair.
Originally posted by snyper1982Because he lacks the power to ko the Rulk. The instances when he used speed were against physically inferior opponents than the Rulk. Supes took them out easily and quickly,while this simply isnt the case.
LOL. Saying something doesn't actually make it fact you realize. see watch.Superman could take out the entire marvel universe at the same time, and use Thanos hair as floss when he is done slaughtering them all.
That doesn't make it true though. You did at least answer partially this time. I asked you to explain WHY he can't BFR him. And how is the rulk supposed to hit him? Maybe if I ask enough times, you will answer.
Originally posted by quanchi112the feats you have been using are PIS, superman rushing in and getting KO'd is pis. superman demonstrating strength, which has nothing to do with his mind set, isn't
i tend to think he might still brawl but have given you the benefit of the doubt.If all feats are usable for you why not against,seems kinda unfair.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he lacks the power to ko the Rulk. The instances when he used speed were against physically inferior opponents than the Rulk. Supes took them out easily and quickly,while this simply isnt the case.
OK. So speed is A-OK as long as it is against an inferior opponent, but when he goes up against a more dangerous opponent, he won't use it. Got ya. So basically, you want the fight tailored for a rulk win. That's cool.
Originally posted by quanchi112rulk hasnt faced anyone who can hit as hard as superman, when superman attacked black racer with one punch he cracked the entire planet. against earth-2 superman the planet exploded and they were shattering reality, against zod again the planet was cracking, when has RUlk taken punches like those?
Because he lacks the power to ko the Rulk. The instances when he used speed were against physically inferior opponents than the Rulk. Supes took them out easily and quickly,while this simply isnt the case.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678Thats right we ignore everything that has Superman losing this.
the feats you have been using are PIS, superman rushing in and getting KO'd is pis. superman demonstrating strength, which has nothing to do with his mind set, isn't
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678Oh,so i cant use any Superman facts because youll say that wasnt superman with those three mindsets. But you can use any high moment of his at your leisure. I think Im getting it.
trinity is a canon superman comic. Im not saying supemran from the trinity series. Its superman trinity ( as in the combination of all of their mindsets)
Originally posted by snyper1982He can use the speed but that doesnt mean he wins just because he is faster. Thats my point. You have never even seen Rulk get beat yet but you act as if you know that Supes can do this..easily.
OK. So speed is A-OK as long as it is against an inferior opponent, but when he goes up against a more dangerous opponent, he won't use it. Got ya. So basically, you want the fight tailored for a rulk win. That's cool.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678Thor's hammer has chased off Galactus. he beat the destroyer recently. Thor's hammer hurts a lot more than Superman's fist.
rulk hasnt faced anyone who can hit as hard as superman, when superman attacked black racer with one punch he cracked the entire planet. against earth-2 superman the planet exploded and they were shattering reality, against zod again the planet was cracking, when has RUlk taken punches like those?
Originally posted by snyper1982The rules dont state Superman wins because he is faster. Sorry,he uses his speed,lands in some nice attacks,and then gets his ass handed to him when Rulk gets a hold of him.
There you go ignoring the rules again... He doesn't actualy HAVE to have BFR'd someone, to prove that he CAN. Best of their abilities, remember.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats right we ignore everything that has Superman losing this.
Oh,so i cant use any Superman facts because youll say that wasnt superman with those three mindsets. But you can use any high moment of his at your leisure. I think Im getting it.
He can use the speed but that doesnt mean he wins just because he is faster. Thats my point. You have never even seen Rulk get beat yet but you act as if you know that Supes can do this..easily.
Thor's hammer has chased off Galactus. he beat the destroyer recently. Thor's hammer hurts a lot more than Superman's fist.
The rules dont state Superman wins because he is faster. Sorry,he uses his speed,lands in some nice attacks,and then gets his ass handed to him when Rulk gets a hold of him.
No we ignore PIS. Instances where superman get's tagged by someone without superspeed is the very definition of PIS. Based on what I know of both characters, superman wins via BFR, easily. If superman for whatever reason brawls with rulk without superspeed, then he looses.
If he brawls with superspeed, then I honestly don't know, because to my knowledge, no one has used superspeed on rulk... Can't make an informed opinion on that. I would be of the mindset that if he speedblitzed rulk, then he could take him by sheer force because one hit from thor's hammer is an amazing feat but thousands and thousands of punches from superman before you can blink is another. Again though, we haven't seen how he would handle this though, so it is pointless to speculate about that. The other aspect of superspeed is that rulk could not hit superman if he is using it. I will call it a stalemate, since we do not know the level of rulks durability, or whether supes could overcome it, and the fact that rulk could not hit supes if he is using his speed.
What we do know is superman possesses the level of strengh to phsyically throw rulk into the sun if he desires, and the speed to do so before he can even process a thought.
So superman via BFR.
Originally posted by snyper1982We disagree. Even with superseed i think Rulk will eventually get his hands off of him. You know how I feel about the rest. We disagree,thats all.
No we ignore PIS. Instances where superman get's tagged by someone without superspeed is the very definition of PIS. Based on what I know of both characters, superman wins via BFR, easily. If superman for whatever reason brawls with rulk without superspeed, then he looses.If he brawls with superspeed, then I honestly don't know, because to my knowledge, no one has used superspeed on rulk... Can't make an informed opinion on that. I would be of the mindset that if he speedblitzed rulk, then he could take him by sheer force because one hit from thor's hammer is an amazing feat but thousands and thousands of punches from superman before you can blink is another. Again though, we haven't seen how he would handle this though, so it is pointless to speculate about that. The other aspect of superspeed is that rulk could not hit superman if he is using it. I will call it a stalemate, since we do not know the level of rulks durability, or whether supes could overcome it, and the fact that rulk could not hit supes if he is using his speed.
What we do know is superman possesses the level of strengh to phsyically throw rulk into the sun if he desires, and the speed to do so before he can even process a thought.
So superman via BFR.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We disagree. Even with superseed i think Rulk will eventually get his hands off of him. You know how I feel about the rest. We disagree,thats all.
How can you disagree with the BFR? It is common knowledge that Superman possesses that kind of speed and strength. Do you not agree that superman is faster than rulk can see or react to? Do you not agree that superman has the strength to throw rulk and things thousands of times heavier than rulk into space? If so, then how can you disagree with bfr?
Originally posted by snyper1982I disagree that its that easy to bfr someone into space. Rulk will resist this space launch. No need to keep asking me.
How can you disagree with the BFR? It is common knowledge that Superman possesses that kind of speed and strength. Do you not agree that superman is faster than rulk can see or react to? Do you not agree that superman has the strength to throw rulk and things thousands of times heavier than rulk into space? If so, then how can you disagree with bfr?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree that its that easy to bfr someone into space. Rulk will resist this space launch. No need to keep asking me.
How will he resist it though? That is what I want to know. If this all happens to him before he can form a thought, what is he possibly going to do to resist it?
Originally posted by snyper1982Supes doesnt have the strength to just throw him into space without Rulk resisting it. Thats the point. Supes needed to injure Darkseid to take him up into space when that was his intention.
How will he resist it though? That is what I want to know. If this all happens to him before he can form a thought, what is he possibly going to do to resist it?
Originally posted by quanchi112he didnt need to injure lobo, and being strong once again has no effect on your ability to cling to the ground
Supes doesnt have the strength to just throw him into space without Rulk resisting it. Thats the point. Supes needed to injure Darkseid to take him up into space when that was his intention.