Originally posted by snyper1982
Kind of like how you keep saying you think rulk could hit Superman with no proof backing that up? Kind of like that?
How dont we have proof when superman entire career is proof enough. Ok if you want proof, konvikt koed superman, despero koed superman, kalibak koed superman. Is that proof enough. You cant call it pis because it has been going on his entire career.
Rulk 10/10, wont even break a sweat.
Originally posted by snyper1982Again,he was shown moving at the speed of sound. I still havent seen him beat anyone near Rulk's level. Rulk shit on Thor and took his hammer strike like it was less than nothing. Again its my opinion and I think you are taking this personally. Rulk could take whatever blows Superman could inflict and then some. It will affect him less than Thor's hammer.
Why do we have to prove how fast he moves in a fight? That is retarded. Movement speed isn't divided into fighting speed, and non fighting speed. Speed is an innate attribute, it doesn't vary just because he is fighting. The fact that he has proven countless times to have speed and reaction time on levels that rulk only wishes he could have is pointless tough because he hasn't done it "on panel while fighting"... There has already been scans posted showing he can fight at least faster than sound, so until you can show ON PANEL proof of him able to counter even that preposterously slow level of speed for him, your point is moot. Superman is fast enough to make rulk a statue, you know, I know it, everyone knows it, you just don't want rulk to loose so keep coming up with new and ridiculous arguments.
Unless you can prove Superman can fight faster than sound by a scan of him doing it you are just speculating.
Originally posted by snyper1982Supes has been hit by bricks before,so why is this the exception?
Kind of like how you keep saying you think rulk could hit Superman with no proof backing that up? Kind of like that?
Originally posted by carver9
How dont we have proof when superman entire career is proof enough. Ok if you want proof, konvikt koed superman, despero koed superman, kalibak koed superman. Is that proof enough. You cant call it pis because it has been going on his entire career.Rulk 10/10, wont even break a sweat.
Yes. They are all PIS... What part about this do you guys not get? They have to use PIS to make a story...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again,he was shown moving at the speed of sound. I still havent seen him beat anyone near Rulk's level. Rulk shit on Thor and took his hammer strike like it was less than nothing. Again its my opinion and I think you are taking this personally. Rulk could take whatever blows Superman could inflict and then some. It will affect him less than Thor's hammer.Unless you can prove Superman can fight faster than sound by a scan of him doing it you are just speculating. Supes has been hit by bricks before,so why is this the exception?
OMG. So as soon a s fight starts, all the rest of superman's speed feats are thrown out the window? Nice. I guess when he blitzed Wonder Woman to the sun, that doesn't count either right? Supes has been hit by plenty of people slower than him, via plot devices or PIS. There is no other logical explanation for why a guy that can move and react as fast as he can would get hit by someone so much slower. No LOGICAL reason.
Originally posted by snyper1982Again,its called comics. I didnt throw any of his feats out the window. He is fast,but his speed isnt getting him the win imo. Rulk left the planet once under his own power. I dont believe Supes can knock him off the planet. He is far too powerful and Supes has had problems with bricks. Rulk is one tough brick.
OMG. So as soon a s fight starts, all the rest of superman's speed feats are thrown out the window? Nice. I guess when he blitzed Wonder Woman to the sun, that doesn't count either right? Supes has been hit by plenty of people slower than him, via plot devices or PIS. There is no other logical explanation for why a guy that can move and react as fast as he can would get hit by someone so much slower. No LOGICAL reason.
Rulk wins this all day.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again,its called comics. I didnt throw any of his feats out the window. He is fast,but his speed isnt getting him the win imo. Rulk left the planet once under his own power. I dont believe Supes can knock him off the planet. He is far too powerful and Supes has had problems with bricks. Rulk is one tough brick.Rulk wins this all day.
According to the rules, no PIS. You have yet to show a single speed feat that sows the rulk can touch superman, all you have shown were examples of PIS against superman, and saying that he could hit him because in this plot, he got hit by someone without superspeed. While conveniently ignoring all the countless times he has used his super speed to dodge bullets, punches, fly across metropolis to catch a bullet after it has already left the gun, etc.
Originally posted by snyper1982Again,we dont debate powersets only here. We are debating the actual characters.
OK... Superman's character contains speed and reaction that only a handful of characters in all of comics can match. Rulks doesn't... Superman wins 10/10.
Originally posted by snyper1982Im not saying that Superman cant use his speed,but Ive seen plenty of characters hit him before when he has used his speed before. Hp Doomsday and WW come to mind.
According to the rules, no PIS. You have yet to show a single speed feat that sows the rulk can touch superman, all you have shown were examples of PIS against superman, and saying that he could hit him because in this plot, he got hit by someone without superspeed. While conveniently ignoring all the countless times he has used his super speed to dodge bullets, punches, fly across metropolis to catch a bullet after it has already left the gun, etc.
Originally posted by carver9It isnt possible.
So basically youre saying that his entire career is full of pis. Is that even possible.
Originally posted by carver9
So basically youre saying that his entire career is full of pis. Is that even possible.
Not his entire carrer, as there are people that can actually compare to his speed, or are fast enough to at least hit him. Should anyone be able to realistically be able to hit the flash? No. They do though. How else do they make a story interesting when someone with that level of speed is going up against someone without it? Simple, they writers don't have them use their speed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again,we dont debate powersets only here. We are debating the actual characters. Im not saying that Superman cant use his speed,but Ive seen plenty of characters hit him before when he has used his speed before. Hp Doomsday and WW come to mind. It isnt possible.
LOL. You list two other people that have hit him who have superspeed. Nice job!
Also, virtually every speedster has tons of instances of PIS throught their carrer. It goes with the territory of being a speedster.
Originally posted by snyper1982They werent using superspeed at the time.
LOL. You list two other people that have hit him who have superspeed. Nice job!
Should I name other characters who have hit him that dont have superspeed?
The point is he was trying to avoid Doomsday but couldnt in hunter and prey. He was pretty relentless against WW but she managed to bang him up pretty effectively while holding back and escaping from him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They werent using superspeed at the time.Should I name other characters who have hit him that dont have superspeed?
The point is he was trying to avoid Doomsday but couldnt in hunter and prey. He was pretty relentless against WW but she managed to bang him up pretty effectively while holding back and escaping from him.
How do you know they weren't using it? Did it say they were, or weren't? Prove they weren't using superspeed. The fact is, both of those characters posses superspeed, so them hitting him is not PIS, as they actually SHOULD be able to.
Originally posted by snyper1982When has Doomsday exhibited superspeed? So by this rationale was Solon Grundy using superspeed when he hit Superman before? Was Konvikt,Kalibak,Mantis,etc.?
How do you know they weren't using it? Did it say they were, or weren't? Prove they weren't using superspeed. The fact is, both of those characters posses superspeed, so them hitting him is not PIS, as they actually SHOULD be able to.