Onslaught vs Arishem

MY guess is that Arishem would simply judge Onslaught unworthy to continue his existence, and thus obliterate him.

Indeed

I further guess that without Arishem and the Celestials there would be no Onslaught since they created the X-gene.

Arishem doesn't even notice Onslaught

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I further guess that without Arishem and the Celestials there would be no Onslaught since they created the X-gene.

A bit of history:

The Stranger notes that humans potentially evolve and replace the abstracts [savior and destroyer of the universe]. Note: That's not the Phoenix Force, it's just a projection; Jean never had the PF during arc:

The Celestial seeding the humanity with potential to instigate the end:

Kly'bn, the Skrull god:

What issue or arc is that? I'd like to read it.

I believe its X-Men Forever

Last scan from Incredible Herc

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What issue or arc is that? I'd like to read it.

What guy222 said, but more precisely from each scan first was X-Men Forever 1, 4, 6, and Hercules 120.

Gotcha, thanks.

3 pages lets keep going

Every Celestial does not contain the same amount of power-output.

Arishem though, is of the choice variety, and therefore is at-least above Universal.

Nothing more needs to be said. Arishem sends Onslaught into the abyss.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Every Celestial does not contain the same amount of power-output.

Arishem though, is of the choice variety, and therefore is at-least above Universal.

I've been meaning to ask you when I had the chance, are Celestials multiversal? I had this discussion with a friend and he believed them to be universal and each Universe had their own set of Celestials.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I've been meaning to ask you when I had the chance, are Celestials multiversal? I had this discussion with a friend and he believed them to be universal and each Universe had their own set of Celestials.

But on average a Celestal is shown universal level of power at most(some has gone beyond)

and just cause they spawn from eternity does not limit there power to universal

Like many other MMJ , Frankin etc you can be greater than the creator

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

I've been meaning to ask you when I had the chance, are Celestials multiversal? I had this discussion with a friend
and he believed them to be universal
and each Universe had their own set of Celestials.

Certain 616 Celestials on the other hand,
are definitely multi-Universal in power, (by certain, I mean few)
and, their not Multiversal. (as in, power over the entire Multiverse)

To what multi-Universal degree exactly though, is anyone's guess.
(their uber feats are seldom, it's mostly statements)

(multi-Universal means: able to affect more than one universe)

This does not pertain to 616,
as no Celestial (except for the futuristic Scathan) is above Eternity.

Originally posted by kgkg

There has been many theories supporting different ideas in marval comics about the power level of Celestals

But on average a Celestal is shown universal level of power at most(some has gone beyond)

and just cause they spawn from eternity does not limit there power to universal

Good friend, Eternity played no part when the Celestial was born in the Black Galaxy

Arishem is the Judge

Exitar was the Exterminator

Ziran is the Tester

Gammenon is the Gatherer

Tiamut the Communicator

Originally posted by guy222

Good friend, Eternity played no part when the Celestial was born in the Black Galaxy

And everything touched by Eternity ... is the trans-infinite prime Multiverse:

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

...........................................................................

"Eternity IS A GOD! He is ...
the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on All levels of Creation"

...........................................................................

Of course, anomalies are destined to be spawned as well,
hence, the several take overs of this true, God-like entity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey there good friend, actually, Eternity creates everything within him.

And everything touched by Eternity ... is the trans-infinite prime Multiverse:

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
[B]Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,

the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"

...........................................................................

"Eternity IS A GOD! He is ...
the complete embodiment of everyone and everything ...
... on All levels of Creation"

...........................................................................

Of course, anomalies are destined to be spawned as well,
hence, the several take overs of this true, God-like entity. [/B]

Again marvel is not very keen on Universal/Multiversal distinction , clearly overlapping Universal/Multiversal concept many times ie choas , and order.

Perhaps there are multiversal aspect of these concepts as it has been shown few times where chaos and order affected the multiverse , death also affecting the multiverse etc.

Odin/Zeus/Vishnu vs Arishem