What would your polictical party be? Should we abolish the political spectrum?

Started by Symmetric Chaos36 pages
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, not the exact same convictions, but to an extend. Kinda like the system we have now.

Nice dodge 😉

Your systems requires nearly identical morals and convictions in everyone. Without that it results in constant uprisings by people who want a slight change.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Nice dodge 😉

Your systems requires nearly identical morals and convictions in everyone. Without that it results in constant uprisings by people who want a slight change.

No, it really doesn't. That's an assumption you make and i have no idea what you base it on. In fact it seems like a blatant straw man.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because companies don't get more money just because they are forced to pay more. Ergo they will cut back on jobs, or outsource them or give it to illegal workers.

And thats the employee's fault for wanting to make enough to live on?

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
And thats the employee's fault for wanting to make enough to live on?
No, that's the governments fault for putting in a minimum wage.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not sure what you are trying to say.

Unions don't want what you want but you still want to use them. Similar concept.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't rely on them. I rely on exactly one. Humans being selfish. That's it.

Not sure why you split that like that. You're also relying on people being smart and able to think long term.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, it really doesn't. That's an assumption you make and i have no idea what you base it on. In fact it seems like a blatant straw man.

I haven't used any strawmen, unless you're trying to use a red herring.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, that's the governments fault for putting in a minimum wage.

But they do it to insure people have enough to live on.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
But they do it to insure people have enough to live on.

Which raises inflation and defeats its purpose.

What prevents the use of child labor & excessive hours, poor health and safety standards and refusal by employers to enter into collective bargaining... besides employer altruism, in a deregulated labor market, by the way?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unions don't want what you want but you still want to use them. Similar concept.

Unions don't want politically what I want, but I still think that their use economically is excellent. Your analogy was atrocious.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not sure why you split that like that. You're also relying on people being smart and able to think long term.

Not more long term than in our society.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Which raises inflation and defeats its purpose.

Not if the government puts price controls into effect. In Canada the government does that from time to time.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What prevents the use of child labor & excessive hours, poor health and safety standards and refusal by employers to enter into collective bargaining... besides employer altruism, in a deregulated labor market, by the way?

Competition, negative press, the community and hopefully the parents.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
But they do it to insure people have enough to live on.
If they have a job, which many then don't and also making living costs higher.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Unions don't want politically what I want, but I still think that their use economically is excellent.

Terribly oppressive and manipulative to make them do what you want and force anarchy on them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not more long term than in our society.

Most people don't even look as long term as their own lives. Long term gain requires long term thinking. Anarchy requires people knowing what to do.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Not if the government puts price controls into effect. In Canada the government does that from time to time.

Which is entirely not the government's place and scares away competitors.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Terribly oppressive and manipulative to make them do what you want and force anarchy on them.

Straw Man, again. Ridiculous, too.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Most people don't even look as long term as their own lives. Long term gain requires long term thinking. Anarchy requires people knowing what to do.

No more than our society does.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If they have a job, which many then don't and also making living costs higher.

Yes but the reverse is that people have a job but they cannot survive on what they are paid.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Competition

🤨

Originally posted by Bardock42
negative press

Not hard to control or distort.

Originally posted by Bardock42
the community

. . . benefits from the cheap labor.

Originally posted by Bardock42
hopefully the parents.

Pay 'em off.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Which is entirely not the government's place and scares away competitors.

It is if it combats corporate greed.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Straw Man, again. Ridiculous, too.

You want people who don't want anarchy to be part of your anarchist society. How is it a straw man to say that you want people who don't want anarchy to be part of your anarchist society?