Bumping this week's list:
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Updated teams. I didn't include links, and included point values that I knew for sure. Contested picks are at the bottom.Scoob/leo:
Ultimo - 30
Scrambler - 25
Shift - 25
Meanstreak - 20
Batman - 15
Fabian cortez - 10Digi:
Death's Head II - 30
Karate Kid - 25
Mary Marvel - 30
Cpt. Marvel Jr. - 30
Judomaster - 10Blair/Smurph:
Iron Man - 30
Sand - 30
Nick Fury - 10
Hank Pym - 25
Nimrod - 30Fangirl:
Classic Artemis (not sure what that even means) - 15
MN'er - 20
Voodoo - 25
Faust - 25
Amazing Man II - 30
Echo - 10Charlotte:
Magik II - 25
Emma Frost - 30
Miss Martian - 30
Oracle -
Zachary Zatara -
Nyssa RaatkoKFish:
Holocaust - 30
Power Girl - 30
Jean Grey - 30
Taskmaster - 15
Sabertooth - 20Kandy/id:
Spawn - 30
War Machine - 30
Cable
Spot
GambitBeing contested:
Meanstreak
Faust
Voodoo
Cortez
- Also, I believe Classic QS was > mach 1. He had a ton of feats before his upgrade, which came rather recently compared to his total age in comics. Might be a point in Meanstreak's favor, though I'd still like to see concrete evidence of his speed.
- Yet again, I feel like we might need to blow the whistle on fangirl dropping a 30-pt. character, then adding one with the exact same skills for 25. Seems shady, regardless of whatever random explanation he tries to give us for it. Grunge is the character in question this time.
Originally posted by DigiMark007Grunge Like Am 3 just doesn't have the energy absorbtion powers of AM 2. I never wanted him. I just wanted someone who could absorb substances.
Bumping this week's list:- Also, I believe Classic QS was > mach 1. He had a ton of feats before his upgrade, which came rather recently compared to his total age in comics. Might be a point in Meanstreak's favor, though I'd still like to see concrete evidence of his speed.
- Yet again, I feel like we might need to blow the whistle on fangirl dropping a 30-pt. character, then adding one with the exact same skills for 25. Seems shady, regardless of whatever random explanation he tries to give us for it. Grunge is the character in question this time.
Not All absorbers are the same.
Absorbing Man is the best of them all. Then It's Amazing Man 1. Then Amazing Man 2. Grundge and Amazing Man 3 can only absorb the properties of Stuff. Not energy.
Originally posted by DigiMark007No.
Bumping this week's list:- Also, I believe Classic QS was > mach 1. He had a ton of feats before his upgrade, which came rather recently compared to his total age in comics.
Classic, not as in prior to HoM, but prior to his upgrade from the high evolutionary...
Though I don't know if that's the version intended on the tiers list. I didn't think of it as prior to HoM... but that would make more sense. I don't personally see QS back when he could only do Mach 1 as higher than low meta...
Originally posted by Cavalier
No.Classic, not as in prior to HoM, but prior to his upgrade from the high evolutionary...
Though I don't know if that's the version intended on the tiers list. I didn't think of it as prior to HoM... but that would make more sense. I don't personally see QS back when he could only do Mach 1 as higher than low meta...
Let's see. I have a small folder on him for whatever reason.
http://www.geocities.com/marvel_megalomaniac/magneto/mags_vs_quick.jpg
Eh. hard to tell if it's > Mach 1.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/QS2.jpg
Better. Begins to cast some doubt on it. And this is still pre-upgrade from HE, iirc. Not an expert on his continuity, though, so I'm making estimations.
...those are as good as I have for him, sans post-upgrade stuff. There's obviously a lot I'm missing.
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I'm not trying to defend Meanstreak at 20 (since he may very well be 25)...just figure out a standard for comparison.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Grunge Like Am 3 just doesn't have the energy absorbtion powers of AM 2. I never wanted him. I just wanted someone who could absorb substances.
Which still seems 30-point-ish to me. But whatever. Just make sure you stick to substances, not energy, or I'm calling down massive shenanigans on you.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Let's see. I have a small folder on him for whatever reason.http://www.geocities.com/marvel_megalomaniac/magneto/mags_vs_quick.jpg
Eh. hard to tell if it's > Mach 1.http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/QS2.jpg
Better. Begins to cast some doubt on it. And this is still pre-upgrade from HE, iirc. Not an expert on his continuity, though, so I'm making estimations....those are as good as I have for him, sans post-upgrade stuff. There's obviously a lot I'm missing.
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I'm not trying to defend Meanstreak at 20 (since he may very well be 25)...just figure out a standard for comparison.
Which still seems 30-point-ish to me. But whatever. Just make sure you stick to substances, not energy, or I'm calling down massive shenanigans on you.
ok, so after a very brief discussion with ill, he and i agreed that 15pts would be fair for fabian cortez, which leaves me with 5 less points to play with. since ill originally ok'd the character, and now has decided he should be worth a little more, he has allowed scoob and i the chance to adjust our line-up accordingly. we'll be keeping cortez, but we'll have to do a little line-up shifting to do so. i'll post our new line-up by the end of the day.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Fabian and scrambler both need to be 20 points.Cable needs to be at least 20 and that is without tp and tk. He's still bionic. Well maybe not. Batman and cap can beat bionic people. That is a tuff call.
It's not really about who they can beat, more about their overall power.
I mean Taskmaster can beat Iron Man and he's only human.
^yeah, it's a mutant bio-aura power. mutants have a different bio pattern than normal humanity (that's why xavier can use cerebro to find them, and caliban can locate them from miles away). cortez can put mutant power's into overdrive, but they experience "burn-out" if they are used at such a high level too long.
Originally posted by id369
I am serious about re-drafting current Cable for 15 instead of 20. Is that out off the question, or within reason?
At this point it's probably within reason, but wouldn't go into affect until your next match (and only if approved). I don't know enough to say anything, but any version of Cable for 15 seems like highway robbery. But others can give their thoughts as well.
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And can I personally approve Cortez for 10, only for this week, since I face them? I'd actually prefer to know the team I'm facing, rather than give them a chance to re-pick. Because in theory, they could re-tool their whole team to rearrange points.
{edit} Actually, I'm feeling even stronger about this. They've had 2 days now to reconsider my entire team and make potential switches. If we allow them to change now, it's wildly unfair to me.
Let them keep Cortez at 10, then make him 15 after this week. I don't mind, and it doesn't affect anyone else, and I think it would be unfair to me to allow them to make any changes now, since even 5 points can be turned into 2-3 switches to make things work out again, and it could leave me facing an entirely different team, one that is made specifically to take out my characters, and giving me no chance to protest or respond.
