indeed, Pyron can destroy Sargeras, most of Nosgoth if it hasnt been destoryed can take out souls or simply banish them elseware or use souls to create bodies thus destroying the mind of the previous being...bye bye Sarg, or if Nosgoth is destroyed Kain takes Sarg out the usual way, not to mention kain can also do this "use of soul" thing in a body, it would be interesting to see Kain rip out Pyrons soul, replace it with Sargeras and have their combined power as his latest Son.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Exactly just the same as with Sargeras, you see the logic with SS but not the logic with Archimonde and Sargeras. He has shown a magical feat beyond the Eredar as a matter of fact, keeping a infinite pool of magical energy substained as Becci has already mentioned, furthermore he communicated through the portal with the demons on the other side something Archimonde couldn't do. The Eredar would given their structure never show respect ore fear towards someone that wasn't their superior in magical might, and if Sargeras wasn't their Superior don't you think that they would already have disposed of him, thousands of Eredar channeling the same Paramount spell would have a effect beyond belief. Yes they did they wanted power power that Sargeras gave them thanks to his own, he gave them the fel magic that he had created.Eh he showed Immunity to a collapse of a infinite magical pool, which is arcane in nature, Again Archimonde was hurt with great force and had only small holes was made on him from the impact, going by the flea thing this means that Sargeras durability to Physical attacks are far higher. Here comes the mysterious Scion Kain yet again, this time don't answer unless you can document with a scan ore otherwise canon source, what feats does Scion Kain has that justifies him taking down Sargeras?
Funny that you doesn't have to prove anything why is that BT? Again document with proof that Pyron when in his human size can move with the speed of light preferebly through something like a Planet ore a human ore anything not just your worthless claims about what could happen because if Pyron hits Sargeras at lightspeed but has nothing to support him being capable of harming Sargeras then I see nothing wrong in me claiming that Pyron will be pressed flat when ramming into Sargeras.
No I isn't on the other hand we have you mentioning that a implosion that wreaked a planet isn't impressive.
I doesn't understand what you doesn't get, the Implosion caused the Sundering, and Sargeras toke it at point blank range without any effect visible on him. Again the analogy with the Nuclear Bomb, will you claim that a person cannot survive the effects from a Nuclear bomb if he could take it at point blank range? And really if it wasn't the Implosion in the portal that was located in the Well of Eternity that tore the world apart, when what was it?
No ive accepted that Sarg is more powerful than them, but not necesserily in magic as I said, and SS and Galactus are both far more detailed than Sargeras. They probably could have destroyed him, but first you cant assume they knew that, second you cannot assume they would rather destroy someone than learn new powers that they did not have before, keeping in mind their soceity. Also how do you know Archimonde "could not" do something, has he tried? and how is that a magical feat beyond paramount spells and Eredar in general?
You mean the collapse of a portal, not magic pool...the magic pool was the WoE. Why do you ask for feats when your main evidence for Sargeras being powerful are statements and not feats as well that you claimed in the same post? see you cannot....Scion kain would elimnate Sargeras with likely any one of the concepts at his disposal.
NO because your making a debate fallacy ,I dont have to prove Pyron at lightspeed can break Sargeras, you have to prove he can survive Pyron doing it to him, then you have to prove how shaking the planet has anything near to the level of lightspeed movement from Pyron, Jaxx is the Pyorn bod so if he wants to out of interest show how Pyron is stronger he can but neither of us have to prove a negative, that would be a fallacy, we have the facts of logic that something moving at lightspeed has such a high weight and mass that without any proof we know Pyron could smash through a planet since an object moving at lightspeed would.
An implsion that started another implision you mean
WRONG the implosion of the portal caused the WELL OF ETERNITY to implode which in turn caused the sundering understand? there is no implosion with the power of the sundering or any less or higher hitting Sarg from what can be proven. it was the Well of eternity that blew the world, the portal imploding simply started off the Well of eternity, I cant remember the reason, a link being broken or something but the reason is irrelvent, it was the well, not the portal that caused the sundering, sure in the long run the portal caused the well to blow etc etc but the actual power of the sundering was the WoE, the power of the portal imploding on Sarg is unkown.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. ...K. 😂 I still think with Pyron's power and strength a blow from Pyron would do far more.2. Pyron cannot destroy his soul, yeah, you are probably right. But what could Sargeras' soul do to Pyron? Pyron would have left before Sargeras' soul could even begin to possess him IMO, what with being many many times FTL, and Pyron can in fact see through dimensions and spirits as well. And, there is the fact that several foes in Nosgoth have soul powers as well, if they are still alive(lol) they can at least weaken Sargeras' soul.
3. Kewl. Demitri with prep can blot out the sun over the entire planet, go figure. 😛
1. The only difference is that Brox had a weapon with the magic of a planet compressed into it.
2. One of the books, whichever it was, claimed that Eternals (Sargeras) is almost impossible to kill even if they would have their physical form destroyed. This was during a Xavius matter, who is not even near as powerful as Sargeras. Sargeras resilient soul, along with his claimed indestructable body and his Eternal title is what makes me think that even if Pyron would defeat Sargeras, he could not kill him. And even if Pyron would disappear once Sargeras is defeated, and even though Sargeras gets no body, he would still live.
3. A point which I see no significance in 😛
Originally posted by Becci1. And Pyron is a being with the power of countless planets compressed into him. Pyron uses planets as jewelry(cause he a pimp).
1. The only difference is that Brox had a weapon with the magic of a planet compressed into it.2. One of the books, whichever it was, claimed that Eternals (Sargeras) is almost impossible to kill even if they would have their physical form destroyed. This was during a Xavius matter, who is not even near as powerful as Sargeras. Sargeras resilient soul, along with his claimed indestructable body and his Eternal title is what makes me think that even if Pyron would defeat Sargeras, he could not kill him. And even if Pyron would disappear once Sargeras is defeated, and even though Sargeras gets no body, he would still live.
3. A point which I see no significance in 😛
2. True...But Pyron would still be the winner. Sargeras would be a soul in space, with Pyron flying to planets and pimping alien girls before he eats them and there planets.
3. Niggas can do crazy shit with prep. 131
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. And Pyron is a being with the power of countless planets compressed into him. Pyron uses planets as jewelry(cause he a pimp).2. True...But Pyron would still be the winner. Sargeras would be a soul in space, with Pyron flying to planets and pimping alien girls before he eats them and there planets.
3. Niggas can do crazy shit with prep. 131
1. Pyron is the converted power of planets, not actually the power of a planet 😉 Little difference, but there is a difference 🙂
2. Sargeras would take over some girl and break Pyron's heart flirt
3. When people get preparation in Warcraft, planets and powerful things break.
Originally posted by Becci1. You are right. Pyron is far greater than any planet. 😉
1. Pyron is the converted power of planets, not actually the power of a planet 😉 Little difference, but there is a difference 🙂2. Sargeras would take over some girl and break Pyron's heart flirt
3. When people get preparation in Warcraft, planets and powerful things break.
2. But then Sargeras' rock hard abs and manly demeanor would overpower Sargeras and his new girl emotions and Sargeras would fall in love, only for Pyron to leave him for Elune, breaking Sargeras' heart. 131
3. People in DS do that without prep. 😉
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You are right. Pyron is far greater than any planet. 😉2. But then Sargeras' rock hard abs and manly demeanor would overpower Sargeras and his new girl emotions and Sargeras would fall in love, only for Pyron to leave him for Elune, breaking Sargeras' heart. 131
3. People in DS do that without prep. 😉
1. Any planet so far 😉
2. Elune and Pyron. Now that would be a couple. The only big difference is that one love life, the other destroys it.
3. I was talking about accidents 😛
Originally posted by Becci1. Neg. Any planet EVA.
1. Any planet so far 😉2. Elune and Pyron. Now that would be a couple. The only big difference is that one love life, the other destroys it.
3. I was talking about accidents 😛
2. Oh come on! One is a Sun God(kinda) the other a Moon Goddess, it would be perfect!
...In fact, someone should make a fanfiction about that. mmm
3. Oh. mmm
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Neg. Any planet EVA.2. Oh come on! One is a Sun God(kinda) the other a Moon Goddess, it would be perfect!
...In fact, someone should make a fanfiction about that. mmm
3. Oh. mmm
1. Nu-Uh 😛
2. That would kinda rock. A fanfiction about two powerful entities made for eachother trying to make things work 😄
3. Yeah, think about it:
- Well of Eternity ritual: Accidental destruction of Well and 1/3 of Azeroth.
- Draenor ritual: Accidental shattering of planet
- Sunwell ritual: Accidental destruction of large regions in Azeroth
- Demon Soul ritual: Accidental inviting the Old Gods to access Azeroth.
That would be the biggest disasters 😛 There are more rituals where things go wrong in Warcraft.
Originally posted by Becci1. Yu-huh to infinity. 😛
1. Nu-Uh 😛2. That would kinda rock. A fanfiction about two powerful entities made for eachother trying to make things work 😄
3. Yeah, think about it:
- Well of Eternity ritual: Accidental destruction of Well and 1/3 of Azeroth.
- Draenor ritual: Accidental shattering of planet
- Sunwell ritual: Accidental destruction of large regions in Azeroth
- Demon Soul ritual: Accidental inviting the Old Gods to access Azeroth.That would be the biggest disasters 😛 There are more rituals where things go wrong in Warcraft.
2. Yeah. "Pyron, when we do it...Sometimes you are a little too rough and it hurts."
...😐
haermm
3. ...So basically, rituals in Warcraft never go as planned and generally suck? 😐
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Yu-huh to infinity. 😛2. Yeah. "Pyron, when we do it...Sometimes you are a little too rough and it hurts."
...😐
haermm
3. ...So basically, rituals in Warcraft never go as planned and generally suck? 😐
1. Damn hmm
2. "Pyron .... We need to talk"
*Swish*
"Sorry, hun. I can not hear you from this side of the universe"
3. They do. Side effects does just not always go as expected. Illidan sundered the world because he was a novice back in those days, and because he was not the only power that interfeared. Ner'Zhul blew up his planet because he sucks. The Demon Soul worked as intended, but the creators did not know that. The Sunwell was simply underestimated 😛
The rituals are fine. The ritualists on the other hand, could sometimes improve. Or just be more careful with what forces they are dealing with. We have good ones, such as Archimonde's ritual that brought down Dalaran. Malfurion's ritual that sacreficed the world tree. Dar'Khans absorption of Anveena. Korialstrasz surpression of the Sunwell 😉
Originally posted by Becci1. Haha, I win, it is clear you are too weak and feeble to face one of such might as mine. 131
1. Damn hmm2. "Pyron .... We need to talk"
*Swish*
"Sorry, hun. I can not hear you from this side of the universe"3. They do. Side effects does just not always go as expected. Illidan sundered the world because he was a novice back in those days, and because he was not the only power that interfeared. Ner'Zhul blew up his planet because he sucks. The Demon Soul worked as intended, but the creators did not know that. The Sunwell was simply underestimated 😛
The rituals are fine. The ritualists on the other hand, could sometimes improve. Or just be more careful with what forces they are dealing with. We have good ones, such as Archimonde's ritual that brought down Dalaran. Malfurion's ritual that sacreficed the world tree. Dar'Khans absorption of Anveena. Korialstrasz surpression of the Sunwell 😉
2. "B!TCH! I SAID WE NEED TO TALK!"
*Backhands Elune"
3. Oh. So the ritualists that cast said spells suck. 😂
K.
Originally posted by Burning thought
No ive accepted that Sarg is more powerful than them, but not necesserily in magic as I said, and SS and Galactus are both far more detailed than Sargeras. They probably could have destroyed him, but first you cant assume they knew that, second you cannot assume they would rather destroy someone than learn new powers that they did not have before, keeping in mind their soceity. Also how do you know Archimonde "could not" do something, has he tried? and how is that a magical feat beyond paramount spells and Eredar in general?You mean the collapse of a portal, not magic pool...the magic pool was the WoE. Why do you ask for feats when your main evidence for Sargeras being powerful are statements and not feats as well that you claimed in the same post? see you cannot....Scion kain would elimnate Sargeras with likely any one of the concepts at his disposal.
NO because your making a debate fallacy ,I dont have to prove Pyron at lightspeed can break Sargeras, you have to prove he can survive Pyron doing it to him, then you have to prove how shaking the planet has anything near to the level of lightspeed movement from Pyron, Jaxx is the Pyorn bod so if he wants to out of interest show how Pyron is stronger he can but neither of us have to prove a negative, that would be a fallacy, we have the facts of logic that something moving at lightspeed has such a high weight and mass that without any proof we know Pyron could smash through a planet since an object moving at lightspeed would.
An implsion that started another implision you mean
[b]WRONG
the implosion of the portal caused the WELL OF ETERNITY to implode which in turn caused the sundering understand? there is no implosion with the power of the sundering or any less or higher hitting Sarg from what can be proven. it was the Well of eternity that blew the world, the portal imploding simply started off the Well of eternity, I cant remember the reason, a link being broken or something but the reason is irrelvent, it was the well, not the portal that caused the sundering, sure in the long run the portal caused the well to blow etc etc but the actual power of the sundering was the WoE, the power of the portal imploding on Sarg is unkown. [/B]
Then in what? Durability strength what? They are but the scenario are the same none the less. They didn't have access to Paramount spells prior to the empowerment by Sargeras. Keeping in mind their sociaty the sheer thought of them dealing with a being below themselve in magical level is absurd. Because he never has if he could he wouldn't have needed to cross into Azeroth. Archimonde with showings with paramount spells etc never showed the power to communicate across dimensions unless he was contacted first, Sargeras has showed that he can do so numerous times, even perform magical feats from another dimension in the Azeroth Dimension, something Archimonde couldn't either.
The portal was fueled by the energy of the well so no. I have already listed feats for Sargeras then you said that didn't show his powerlevel now you ask for feats, that Sargeras has too, Scion Kain on the other hand got absolutely nothing but assumptions and theory concerning his powerlevel, if I go by what Scion Kain has shown in gameplay he gets owned, he has telekinese, teleportation and the moves with the 4 emblems that is it.
Yes you do BT, contrary to what you believe you have to prove a statement you claim that Pyron can move at lightspeed and defeat Sargeras in one Punch I would like to see proof of Pyron moving at light speed it isn't up to me to find proof to the contrary, since it's your claim now support it, I have already mentioned numerous times and supported it with help from Becci why I believe that Sargeras will be capable of taking a punch from Pyron and it isn't up to me too prove the power of the punch behind Pyrons punches then you will have to prove that Pyrons body are capable of surviving the impact force of a lightspeed attack. the burden of proof is on you, I'm not supposed to find proof to the contrary for a statement you cannot even support, so stop beating around the bush and provide the proof that Pyron in his mortal form can move at lightspeed and utilize it as a offensive strategi.
No not quiet, the portal was located in the well and drew power from the well when the portal drawing it's power from the well began to implode with those energies the Well of eternity that was linked with the portal followed.
The portal was the located in the well and fueled by it so if when the portal began to collapse to did the well of eternity, and the implosion still caused the sundering whehter you like it ore not. No except that it's the infinite magical power of the well that is fueling the portal.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Then in what? Durability strength what? They are but the scenario are the same none the less. They didn't have access to Paramount spells prior to the empowerment by Sargeras. Keeping in mind their sociaty the sheer thought of them dealing with a being below themselve in magical level is absurd. Because he never has if he could he wouldn't have needed to cross into Azeroth. Archimonde with showings with paramount spells etc never showed the power to communicate across dimensions unless he was contacted first, Sargeras has showed that he can do so numerous times, even perform magical feats from another dimension in the Azeroth Dimension, something Archimonde couldn't either.The portal was fueled by the energy of the well so no. I have already listed feats for Sargeras then you said that didn't show his powerlevel now you ask for feats, that Sargeras has too, Scion Kain on the other hand got absolutely nothing but assumptions and theory concerning his powerlevel, if I go by what Scion Kain has shown in gameplay he gets owned, he has telekinese, teleportation and the moves with the 4 emblems that is it.
Yes you do BT, contrary to what you believe you have to prove a statement you claim that Pyron can move at lightspeed and defeat Sargeras in one Punch I would like to see proof of Pyron moving at light speed it isn't up to me to find proof to the contrary, since it's your claim now support it, I have already mentioned numerous times and supported it with help from Becci why I believe that Sargeras will be capable of taking a punch from Pyron and it isn't up to me too prove the power of the punch behind Pyrons punches then you will have to prove that Pyrons body are capable of surviving the impact force of a lightspeed attack. the burden of proof is on you, I'm not supposed to find proof to the contrary for a statement you cannot even support, so stop beating around the bush and provide the proof that Pyron in his mortal form can move at lightspeed and utilize it as a offensive strategi.
No not quiet, the portal was located in the well and drew power from the well when the portal drawing it's power from the well began to implode with those energies the Well of eternity that was linked with the portal followed.
The portal was the located in the well and fueled by it so if when the portal began to collapse to did the well of eternity, and the implosion still caused the sundering whehter you like it ore not. No except that it's the infinite magical power of the well that is fueling the portal.
I dont know utrigos, as i said ime not just going to assume nad pull things out of a hat, ime simply stating you cannot assume imedialtey he is greater in magical powers when it could indeed be durability, strength or even other things we dont know. Its not absurd if he was massively powerful and had a type of magic they didnt, they would want it, destoriyng sargeras wouldnt be profitable. If he can speak back, then surely he is doing the same feat as someone speaking to him...
You listed trivial powers such as a fire aura when hes on planets for example, in the same post however your claiming he is superior t Eredar in magic or that they are like fleas to him not from feats but statements and assumption, hypocritical. Scion Kain has powers as ive said from beings already shown in LOK, stated he gains them and furthermore logic, no assumption, an assumption would be something I didnt know as fact, but we know as fact he has the powers.
Well you were asking me before to prove he could shake the Earth when we both (i hope) know that an object moving at the speed of light would just zap through the Earth, not shake...although proof for Pyron going lightspeed I dont remember having myself, I was presented it I belive however by Dark Jaxx so ill rely on him to prove this.
yes and then the WoE exploded causing the sundering, thus the Portal still has no feats, its implosion simply made the Well explode but there was no damage from the portal at all. Yes fueling the portal, until that was too much after the ritual and the portal imploded, there is still no mention at all of the power of the sundering or anything like it in the portal, simply that it was drawring on the wells energy but nothing of the power of the sundering or how much damage, which isnt impressive since Illidan survived it anyway and he was right near the area where it happened.