automicatlly right? your automatically wrong for trolling and not debating yet at the same time degrading, it would like me saying "Becci is useless" without any reason, instead I would say "Becci is bad at debatin because lack of proof i.e etc etc" at least then ime not just trolling....
what your doing is backing up a fellow Fan randomly bearing about as much credability as a fat guy calling someone else fat and bad at dieting.
Not quite correct. I am backing up someone that I find correct, over someone that I find incorrect. Me being a Warcraft fan has nothing to do with my statement that your skills of debating is in comparison to Becci unexistant. Against your expectations, I have read trough the entire thread. While you have been asked numerous things, you have never as much as brought in a single piece of proof even half as good as the worst Becci brought forth. You have won no debate, since there was no debate to begin with. You did nothing but interrogate the people that know stuff about Sargeras without actually providing anything good to strengthen your own side of the debate.
You are a thypical second rate debater who try beating adversaries by having them prove every single thing they claim, breaks down their arguments into pieces (Which is a veery easy thing to do, that in the eyes of most make you look like a good debater while in fact it is a cheap and unskilled strategy) and then reattach them to benefit yourself. While you are leading the dance, Becci and the others are the ones doing all the work. So while they work at answering all your questions and questionings, you slide by on a silverplate, making them seem worse for not being able to bring out the exact details you want, while your actual presence in the debate is shaded by the questions and critic you bring in. When a point is proven, you simply move past it as if it had never taken place, making it seem as if you faced no hinderance in your crusade against the decent debaters.
That is the side of you that debate, but not the side most people see. While you accuse others of having no real evidence, you are in fact the one that has proven the least things in the thread and deserve least attention of all.
But to not get reported again, I will go on topic: Sargeras and Jedah wins the thread, considering this is a human sized Pyron.
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Not quite correct. I am backing up someone that I find correct, over someone that I find incorrect. Me being a Warcraft fan has nothing to do with my statement that your skills of debating is in comparison to Becci unexistant. Against your expectations, I have read trough the entire thread. While you have been asked numerous things, you have never as much as brought in a single piece of proof even half as good as the worst Becci brought forth. You have won no debate, since there was no debate to begin with. You did nothing but interrogate the people that know stuff about Sargeras without actually providing anything good to strengthen your own side of the debate.You are a thypical second rate debater who try beating adversaries by having them prove every single thing they claim, breaks down their arguments into pieces (Which is a veery easy thing to do, that in the eyes of most make you look like a good debater while in fact it is a cheap and unskilled strategy) and then reattach them to benefit yourself. While you are leading the dance, Becci and the others are the ones doing all the work. So while they work at answering all your questions and questionings, you slide by on a silverplate, making them seem worse for not being able to bring out the exact details you want, while your actual presence in the debate is shaded by the questions and critic you bring in. When a point is proven, you simply move past it as if it had never taken place, making it seem as if you faced no hinderance in your crusade against the decent debaters.
That is the side of you that debate, but not the side most people see. While you accuse others of having no real evidence, you are in fact the one that has proven the least things in the thread and deserve least attention of all.
But to not get reported again, I will go on topic: Sargeras and Jedah wins the thread, considering this is a human sized Pyron.
Look now this is better than what you said before, but now your degrading me without examples, anyone can say someone is a bad debator but you go on to say clever things in a debate, for example making other people do the work which eventually desroys their arguments, make examples of where ive ignore good proof, or show examples of me being asked to prove something and not doing it, you see I disagree with you, I think ive debated this better because ime not assuming anything, on the other hand your "champion" becci who accoring to you is better has invented half of her points then made no proof, shes not actually debated anything as you said about my debating skills ,ill say the opposite and sau hers are non-excistent, considering youve got no examples I can sim-ply claim youve taken her side still due to love of Warcraft and dislike of me, simple, youve not made examples, this would be made more credible of a rant if you had examples for each of your points.
ime a not so typical first rate debator who makes their oppenents do all the work and me do less and in the end their defeated because (in becci case) they cant always find the proof or actually debate the points their standing for, thats why youneed to debate the way I do most of the time.
Originally posted by Becci
from what is recorded ability-wise: stronger on a magical level over Kain?
Never proved Kain above Sargeras, although claiming it.
Originally posted by Becci
what makes you so certain that Azimoth and them people could BFR Sargeras? He can cross dimensions
Never even answered. Only questioned Sargeras ability to cross dimensions.
Originally posted by Becci
I would like you to show me Kain turning anyone into atoms, or Kain draining all of anyones power that is of Sargeras magnitude.
Never was proved that Kain could do that, even though you claimed it as an obvious thing.
Originally posted by Burning thought
without any power after Kain drains him to nothing.
Neeever proven.
Originally posted by Becci
And has Kain ever frozen something of Sargeras size?
Never proven capable of such thing.
Originally posted by Becci
I assume you can prove this?
Which you couldnt.
Originally posted by Becci
And what would prevent Sargeras from draining Kain of energy?
Never proven. You only brought up the infinite point.
Want more? I can bring more. Much more. You have proven absolutely nothing in this thread. All you have done is brought descriptive words of Kain and Pyron that you have not even backed up as to from where the words come. You have shown not a single feat of Kain. You have not even said from where your used words originate. I would love to bring up more examples you have not proven. You want more?
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Never proved Kain above Sargeras, although claiming it.Never even answered. Only questioned Sargeras ability to cross dimensions.
Never was proved that Kain could do that, even though you claimed it as an obvious thing.
Neeever proven.
Never proven capable of such thing.
Which you couldnt.
Never proven. You only brought up the infinite point.
Want more? I can bring more. Much more. You have proven absolutely nothing in this thread. All you have done is brought descriptive words of Kain that you have not even backed up as to from where the words come. You have shown not a single feat of Kain. You have not even said from where your used words originate.
above him? above him in waht exactley? thats what the debate is about overall.
i did answer it and then I conceded to her point.
its obvious because Becci has been shown this proof before in several other forums so I imagined she would remember, obviously not.
Proven before, see by now Its obvious why you take becci over me because you dont realise how many times ive proven this. Here ill prove it again:
http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/lok/guardians.php
regulation of the other magic
Becci herself however has seen this 200 times id imagine.
Becci did not prove that would even make a diffrence or if its relevent, thats like me saying Kain can defeat Sarg because hes a greeny colour and asking her to prove otherwise, it was a weak point alltogeher.
Yeh the infnite point...you cant drain an infnite source so your foolish.
Sure i want to demolish more, please bring up some. Because unlike you (which is why your creadbility is zero) Becci has debated with me before, knows where my info comes from and has actually seen it,infact she is prob a weaker debator for having to ask for this information since shes pretending ignorence when shes seen this before.
their magic influenced the regulation of the other magic in Nosgoth
I understand why you did not quote the whole sentence 😛
I have a shower to attend to. I must say though that nothing in your most previous post proved anything. Not anything at all. It only showed a couple of words that can be interpreted in different ways shrug Absolutely nothing in the same details as you have requested of Becci and the others to prove things.
Originally posted by TruthSeeker
I understand why you did not quote the whole sentence 😛I have a shower to attend to. I must say though that nothing in your most previous post proved anything. Not anything at all. It only showed a couple of words that can be interpreted in different ways shrug Absolutely nothing in the same details as you have requested of Becci and the others to prove things.
oh ok, Sargeras has defeated races in Warcraft, Archimonde has crushed dragons in Warcraft, Pantheon created planets and controlled time in warcraft, Nozmordu can control and use magic in Warcraft.....need i say more? or perhaps you also belive their all weak and worthless abilities when the battle is not set in ther universe? ofc not, you fail.....
I can and have proven things with ease, you simply have not seen it nor do you know of Kain, nor do you know as much as becci of kain considerign the amount of debates shes seen me debate him in, and in every one I have proven points overall, ask me, and ill prove.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Archimone can still be a flea in power overall but also be more powerful than Sarg magicwise.But the pepole were irrelvent, i used them to show how beings vastly more powerful than Sarg would not be necessery, I woudlnt be surprised if either Galactus or LT could undo the resistances Sarg has and kill him with a fireball/fel blast.
well okie, the thread starter has turned this into a weaker Pyron but I would still like you to show me what makes you think Sarg can survive Pyron coming at him at lightspeed? as you prob know mass combined with that speed would make pyrons weight incredible
Ive not denied real proof, Becci proof I accepted as proof for my statement that nothing actually says Sargeras was hit by any incredible power nor the power of the sundering...
Entire unlogical that a character when compared with other Character isn't compared out from his greatest strength which is his magic. That is like saying, Batman is flea next to Captain America though both's main aspects are Martial arts and Batman actually was better, you judge from the greatest strength that a Character has and then you begin to add in all the other factors.
And I showed that neither of those beings you mentioned either can use Nature magic ore has the feats that shows that they can overwrite magical effects/resistance with their own powerlevel.
I do fully realise that, but at the size that Pyron is now, his weight would be reduced, he would need time to accelerate, and this is loose memory but I remember something about Flash making a punch many times the speed of light and that didn't even rock the earth no more power was behind that, Give him Brox Axe and he will cut straight through Sargeras otherwise again I need proof that he can at his size at the very least produce a hit that shakes the relevant world he is located on.
Again what part didn't you understand?
"The mouth of the maelstrom quivered, then lost cohesion. An explosion of energy erupted from the depth of the whirlpool.
The portal started to collapse.
One side after another, the fiery border surrounding it fell in upon itself. Sargeras attempted to reconstruct it, but by then, it had moved beyond even his power to do so. One precious second had stolen the demon lord's victory.
And then a thing happened that Krasus could never have dreamed possible. Sargeras, refusing to believe his defeated, stepped within the crumbling portal itself, trying both to rebuild it and cross through. His desire to do so proved his undoing. As the portal imploded, the demon lord found himself trapped. He could not flee, could not pull back. Dropping his sword, the titan even battered against the gateway with his fists, but to no avail. The corridor between realms shrank rapidly, at last crushing in on him"
He steppes within the portal that is imploding around him trying to stabilise it, he gets trapped which means their is no place for him to go he gets caught right in the middle of the portal, then the corridors between the realms shranked and crushed down apon him, he was within the portal when the imploding was taking place because he couldn't pull back, the energies that was realised in that implosion sunderet the Azeroth world. I entirely fail to see how you can in any way claim that Sargeras didn't withstood the implosion that sunderet the world of Azeroth.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Entire unlogical that a character when compared with other Character isn't compared out from his greatest strength which is his magic. That is like saying, Batman is flea next to Captain America though both's main aspects are Martial arts and Batman actually was better, you judge from the greatest strength that a Character has and then you begin to add in all the other factors.And I showed that neither of those beings you mentioned either can use Nature magic ore has the feats that shows that they can overwrite magical effects/resistance with their own powerlevel.
I do fully realise that, but at the size that Pyron is now, his weight would be reduced, he would need time to accelerate, and this is loose memory but I remember something about Flash making a punch many times the speed of light and that didn't even rock the earth no more power was behind that, Give him Brox Axe and he will cut straight through Sargeras otherwise again I need proof that he can at his size at the very least produce a hit that shakes the relevant world he is located on.
Again what part didn't you understand?
"The mouth of the maelstrom quivered, then lost cohesion. An explosion of energy erupted from the depth of the whirlpool.
The portal started to collapse.
One side after another, the fiery border surrounding it fell in upon itself. Sargeras attempted to reconstruct it, but by then, it had moved beyond even his power to do so. One precious second had stolen the demon lord's victory.
And then a thing happened that Krasus could never have dreamed possible. Sargeras, refusing to believe his defeated, stepped within the crumbling portal itself, trying both to rebuild it and cross through. His desire to do so proved his undoing. As the portal imploded, the demon lord found himself trapped. He could not flee, could not pull back. Dropping his sword, the titan even battered against the gateway with his fists, but to no avail. The corridor between realms shrank rapidly, at last crushing in on him"He steppes within the portal that is imploding around him trying to stabilise it, he gets trapped which means their is no place for him to go he gets caught right in the middle of the portal, then the corridors between the realms shranked and crushed down apon him, he was within the portal when the imploding was taking place because he couldn't pull back, the energies that was realised in that implosion sunderet the Azeroth world. I entirely fail to see how you can in any way claim that Sargeras didn't withstood the implosion that sunderet the world of Azeroth.
no you dont, when a being is far more powerful they dont have to more powerful in every aspect, simple. Sarg may be beyond any of the Eredar magics or due to his fel connection with them could have them die in an instant, a few reasons he culd be so powerful above them in more than just spells, the fact is, Sarg has never been heralded as a master magic user.Him being invulerable ot them and being able to kill them in one hit with non magical means or through a fel connection would still make them as fleas to him even when his magic could be weaker.
yes they could lol, LT is a level of omnipotence he could do as he wishes with Sarg, and Galactus could punch a hole into Sargs head with a cosmic blast or otherwise.
Flash having weak writers in Marvel is irrelvent to real logic. The weight of lightspeed is enormous when an object is moving at it, if it didnt shake the world, it would flash through it since metal and earth cannot stop lightspeeding objects the size of Pyron.
I understood all of it..."again"....
He steps within a portal whos crushing strength is unkown, and hows implosion sets of the implosion of the WoE which in turn causes the sundering as it explodes the well of eternities reason for exploding is unkown to me, but thats where the power of the sundering came from, obviously magic overload or something ,otherwise the feat is uninmpressive
Originally posted by Becci1. I see. mmm So he suffered Link syndrome, without his weapon he is nothing? mmm
Narrator claim various different things of Brox's Ax during the book. That it has the power of Elune, that it has he power of nature itself and also claims that the weapon is imbued with the power of Kalimdor. It is actually never specified that nature damage is the factor, but given the fact that two druids imbued it, nature damage is the most likely factor of the weapon.The swinger of the Ax is in this perspective very weak. While he was incredibly strong for a mortal, compared to Sargeras and Pyron he is nothing. The act of Sargeras scratch was to a hundred percent the doing of the weapon. According to Krasus, it was a miracle that Sargeras was even scraped, even by a weapon of such might: "A small slash mark decorated his right leg, a mark that Krasus's keen eyes recognizedas made by an ax. Brox's ax. Impossible as it seemed, the enhanced weapon had scratched Sargeras.
Had Krasus sought to strike Sargeras directly, either in the chest or head, the results would have been laughable, at least to the demon lord. That Brox had managed his miraculous attack at all said much of the power imbued in the weapon by the druid and his shan'do"I personally do not think I have said that only nature damage can harm Sargeras. Only that nature damage is the only thing that ever has. If I at whatever point claimed that Sargeras can not be harmed with anything else than nature damage, I take it back. What I do not take back, is that I do not think Pyron has what it takes to kill Sargeras.
And Illidan is a known master ritualist. Follow his process troughout War of the Ancients, Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft, then you will see. Illidan, whilst not in the league of the War of the Ancients party, is rather powerful. And during the sundering, Illidan used no artifact. He intercepted in the weaving that was done to the Demon Soul. That was the only artifact that was involved, but he did not use it.
No? Darn haermm
2. You have not to my recollection, others have implied it. Why can Pyron, a being who can matter manip worlds, devour them, traverse the universe at FTL speeds, not kill Sargeras?
3. So it was a prep ritual? Not part of his powerset?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. I see. mmm So he suffered Link syndrome, without his weapon he is nothing? mmm2. You have not to my recollection, others have implied it. Why can Pyron, a being who can matter manip worlds, devour them, traverse the universe at FTL speeds, not kill Sargeras?
3. So it was a prep ritual? Not part of his powerset?
1. That depends entirely. While I think he was said by Krasus to be the greatest warrior to ever have lived, he is absolutely meaningless in comparison to Sargeras and other high tier. While for a mortal, he was impressive. He alone killed countless demons. By countless, I mean countless. He stood on the other side of the portal, completely halting their charge for a long time. The narrator even said that demons piled up beneath and around him. He even killed three Doom Guards by himself, at the same time. While in the eyes of Jedah, Sargeras, Pyron is nothing impressive, for being a powerless Warcraft warrior he is very impressive.
2. I just do not think, that even if Sargeras body would be destroyed, that Pyron could completely destroy his soul. And while Sargeras soul is alive, it only a matter of time before he claim a host. It is stated that Sargeras require a powerful body, but in the worlds of Nosgoth and Darkstalker, a powerful body should not be tough to find. While Pyron might be able to destroy Sargeras body, I do not think I have seen any proof of him being able to see souls.
3. It was an ongoing ritual, yes. It was part of his powers, but the sort that only is effective if he gets to work with it for a while.
Originally posted by Burning thought
no you dont, when a being is far more powerful they dont have to more powerful in every aspect, simple. Sarg may be beyond any of the Eredar magics or due to his fel connection with them could have them die in an instant, a few reasons he culd be so powerful above them in more than just spells, the fact is, Sarg has never been heralded as a master magic user.Him being invulerable ot them and being able to kill them in one hit with non magical means or through a fel connection would still make them as fleas to him even when his magic could be weaker.yes they could lol, LT is a level of omnipotence he could do as he wishes with Sarg, and Galactus could punch a hole into Sargs head with a cosmic blast or otherwise.
Flash having weak writers in Marvel is irrelvent to real logic. The weight of lightspeed is enormous when an object is moving at it, if it didnt shake the world, it would flash through it since metal and earth cannot stop lightspeeding objects the size of Pyron.
I understood all of it..."again"....
He steps within a portal whos crushing strength is unkown, and hows implosion [b]sets of the implosion of the WoE which in turn causes the sundering as it explodes
the well of eternities reason for exploding is unkown to me, but thats where the power of the sundering came from, obviously magic overload or something ,otherwise the feat is uninmpressive [/B]
So I guess that I could claim that Galactus is a flea to SS? who cares that his strongest power is beyond anything Surfer can accomplishe because Surfer has shown higher durability and speed etc, and when you have a community as the Eredar where everything is built around the persons own personal magical energies you think the Eredar would accept Sargeras as their superior if he wasn't their superior in the arts of magic, just like the Pitlords they accept Archimonde not just because of his magical power but because he has shown that he can be quiet nasty in close combat the thing pitlords love most.
But lets not forget why they can do it, both have shown that they can remove/overwrite/overpower magical produced resistance, what does Kain and Pyron has that proves that they can overcome a magical produced resistance that can withstand the power of a planet?
Flash is a DC Character? You still have to prove that Pyron can deliver a punch more powerful then one that shakes the earth, and prove that he can travel at light speed and deliver a punch I don't recall ever having seen him done that.
It doesn't appear that way judging from what you wrote below.
A strength great enough to trap Sargeras who can move mountains, Yes great the implosion causes the sundering and Sargeras is right in the middle of it, he withstands the force that produces the Sundering I fail to see how this isn't crystal clear. It imploded because of the spell that was to open a gateway into Azeroth was broken as the quote already mentioned. A implosion that tore a world apart is unimpressive? Please tell me when Pyron ore Kain has ever withstood and survived something of that magnitude.
Originally posted by Utrigita
So I guess that I could claim that Galactus is a flea to SS? who cares that his strongest power is beyond anything Surfer can accomplishe because Surfer has shown higher durability and speed etc, and when you have a community as the Eredar where everything is built around the persons own personal magical energies you think the Eredar would accept Sargeras as their superior if he wasn't their superior in the arts of magic, just like the Pitlords they accept Archimonde not just because of his magical power but because he has shown that he can be quiet nasty in close combat the thing pitlords love most.But lets not forget why they can do it, both have shown that they can remove/overwrite/overpower magical produced resistance, what does Kain and Pyron has that proves that they can overcome a magical produced resistance that can withstand the power of a planet?
Flash is a DC Character? You still have to prove that Pyron can deliver a punch more powerful then one that shakes the earth, and prove that he can travel at light speed and deliver a punch I don't recall ever having seen him done that.
It doesn't appear that way judging from what you wrote below.
A strength great enough to trap Sargeras who can move mountains, Yes great the implosion causes the sundering and Sargeras is right in the middle of it, he withstands the force that produces the Sundering I fail to see how this isn't crystal clear. It imploded because of the spell that was to open a gateway into Azeroth was broken as the quote already mentioned. A implosion that tore a world apart is unimpressive? Please tell me when Pyron ore Kain has ever withstood and survived something of that magnitude.
No because Galactus has overall far more power than SS, even if SS is superior in a trait to Galactus it means nothing since Galactus would still be more powerful. Still, he was accepted, now your just assuming, the fact is Sargeras has never shown magical might beyond the Eredar, thats the fact, assuming he is just because you dont think Sargeras would be accepted for anything other than magical might is absurd, the guy could prob kill them all but they wanted his power, I dont think in the new lore where its Sarg that does the fel corruption the Eredar have access orginally to fel powers, so they wanted it, they wanted power.
But hes shown no magical resistance other than immunity to fire and fel magics, so ive never said they would overcome those two..they would brutalise with either A: pyrons physical force or B: Kains powers which in this Scion form are as you know ,vast thus making this a total mismatch in general, even Jedah+Pyron vs Sarg alone is enough.
well either way, the point is the same just, change my point from "marvel" to "DC" then. I dont need to prove he can shake the Earth when he could smash through it like glass, thats what Lightspeed would do due to his mass...and deliver a punch? maybe he wont even punch, tbh i cba to prove he can punch when its irrelvent, hell just ram him at lightspeed then, killing Sargaras outright.
oh it does, youve simply overhyped the feat along with Becci to make him stronger.
yes it causes the sundering, but that doesnt mean it has the power of the sundering, all it does is make the WoE explode, the implications i cannot remember why it does it, but thats irrelvent, the sundering is the main power ime speaking of, and Sarg is not hit by any of it, just a crushing portal of unknown strength... no he doesnt survive the force that produces the sundering, the WoE basically produced it, the implosion of the portal produced the WoE knocking out however. No but the portals implosion is not what tore the world apart, you seem to have lost completly the bearings on the statements of the quote, the portal lead to the WoE tearing the world apart
Originally posted by Burning thought
No because Galactus has overall far more power than SS, even if SS is superior in a trait to Galactus it means nothing since Galactus would still be more powerful. Still, he was accepted, now your just assuming, the fact is Sargeras has never shown magical might beyond the Eredar, thats the fact, assuming he is just because you dont think Sargeras would be accepted for anything other than magical might is absurd, the guy could prob kill them all but they wanted his power, I dont think in the new lore where its Sarg that does the fel corruption the Eredar have access orginally to fel powers, so they wanted it, they wanted power.But hes shown no magical resistance other than immunity to fire and fel magics, so ive never said they would overcome those two..they would brutalise with either A: pyrons physical force or B: Kains powers which in this Scion form are as you know ,vast thus making this a total mismatch in general, even Jedah+Pyron vs Sarg alone is enough.
well either way, the point is the same just, change my point from "marvel" to "DC" then. I dont need to prove he can shake the Earth when he could smash through it like glass, thats what Lightspeed would do due to his mass...and deliver a punch? maybe he wont even punch, tbh i cba to prove he can punch when its irrelvent, hell just ram him at lightspeed then, killing Sargaras outright.
oh it does, youve simply overhyped the feat along with Becci to make him stronger.
yes it causes the sundering, but that doesnt mean it has the power of the sundering, all it does is make the WoE explode, the implications i cannot remember why it does it, but thats irrelvent, the sundering is the main power ime speaking of, and Sarg is not hit by any of it, just a crushing portal of unknown strength... no he doesnt survive the force that produces the sundering, the WoE basically produced it, the implosion of the portal produced the WoE knocking out however. No but the portals implosion is not what tore the world apart, you seem to have lost completly the bearings on the statements of the quote, the portal [b]lead to the WoE tearing the world apart
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Exactly just the same as with Sargeras, you see the logic with SS but not the logic with Archimonde and Sargeras. He has shown a magical feat beyond the Eredar as a matter of fact, keeping a infinite pool of magical energy substained as Becci has already mentioned, furthermore he communicated through the portal with the demons on the other side something Archimonde couldn't do. The Eredar would given their structure never show respect ore fear towards someone that wasn't their superior in magical might, and if Sargeras wasn't their Superior don't you think that they would already have disposed of him, thousands of Eredar channeling the same Paramount spell would have a effect beyond belief. Yes they did they wanted power power that Sargeras gave them thanks to his own, he gave them the fel magic that he had created.
Eh he showed Immunity to a collapse of a infinite magical pool, which is arcane in nature, Again Archimonde was hurt with great force and had only small holes was made on him from the impact, going by the flea thing this means that Sargeras durability to Physical attacks are far higher. Here comes the mysterious Scion Kain yet again, this time don't answer unless you can document with a scan ore otherwise canon source, what feats does Scion Kain has that justifies him taking down Sargeras?
Funny that you doesn't have to prove anything why is that BT? Again document with proof that Pyron when in his human size can move with the speed of light preferebly through something like a Planet ore a human ore anything not just your worthless claims about what could happen because if Pyron hits Sargeras at lightspeed but has nothing to support him being capable of harming Sargeras then I see nothing wrong in me claiming that Pyron will be pressed flat when ramming into Sargeras.
No I isn't on the other hand we have you mentioning that a implosion that wreaked a planet isn't impressive.
I doesn't understand what you doesn't get, the Implosion caused the Sundering, and Sargeras toke it at point blank range without any effect visible on him. Again the analogy with the Nuclear Bomb, will you claim that a person cannot survive the effects from a Nuclear bomb if he could take it at point blank range? And really if it wasn't the Implosion in the portal that was located in the Well of Eternity that tore the world apart, when what was it?
Originally posted by Becci1. ...K. 😂 I still think with Pyron's power and strength a blow from Pyron would do far more.
1. That depends entirely. While I think he was said by Krasus to be the greatest warrior to ever have lived, he is absolutely meaningless in comparison to Sargeras and other high tier. While for a mortal, he was impressive. He alone killed countless demons. By countless, I mean countless. He stood on the other side of the portal, completely halting their charge for a long time. The narrator even said that demons piled up beneath and around him. He even killed three Doom Guards by himself, at the same time. While in the eyes of Jedah, Sargeras, Pyron is nothing impressive, for being a powerless Warcraft warrior he is very impressive.2. I just do not think, that even if Sargeras body would be destroyed, that Pyron could completely destroy his soul. And while Sargeras soul is alive, it only a matter of time before he claim a host. It is stated that Sargeras require a powerful body, but in the worlds of Nosgoth and Darkstalker, a powerful body should not be tough to find. While Pyron might be able to destroy Sargeras body, I do not think I have seen any proof of him being able to see souls.
3. It was an ongoing ritual, yes. It was part of his powers, but the sort that only is effective if he gets to work with it for a while.
2. Pyron cannot destroy his soul, yeah, you are probably right. But what could Sargeras' soul do to Pyron? Pyron would have left before Sargeras' soul could even begin to possess him IMO, what with being many many times FTL, and Pyron can in fact see through dimensions and spirits as well. And, there is the fact that several foes in Nosgoth have soul powers as well, if they are still alive(lol) they can at least weaken Sargeras' soul.
3. Kewl. Demitri with prep can blot out the sun over the entire planet, go figure. 😛