Originally posted by fangirl101
So Surfer has hand speed feats like this?
Look, we are both taking a different logical path. For whatever reason, you want to assume that someone who is way faster than WW doesn't have hands as fast as WW. OK. I assume that the guy with FAR superior speed feats has faster hands.
I am done arguing about it. Neither of us can win.
Back to the fight, I don't believe WW can do enough damage to surfer to make a difference here. Surfer is just to powerful.
Originally posted by snyper1982
LOL. Because we don't know how fast surfer is without his board, I am assuming nothing changes, if you want to assume he looses all his speed, then go ahead and prove that to me. The burden of proof lies on you, because you are the one making a claim that he is not as fast without his board.
Originally posted by fangirl101
What the hell? Show us some feats of surfer's hands moving fast or be quiet. Hell. You can be so annoying.
Show me some logic backing up your claims about WHY surfers hands aren't fast. Even if WW does have faster hands, she still looses this fight. She doesn't have enough power to really hurt the surfer.
Originally posted by snyper1982
Look, we are both taking a different logical path. For whatever reason, you want to assume that someone who is way faster than WW doesn't have hands as fast as WW. OK. I assume that the guy with FAR superior speed feats has faster hands.I am done arguing about it. Neither of us can win.
Back to the fight, I don't believe WW can do enough damage to surfer to make a difference here. Surfer is just to powerful.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. everyone else seems to understand. We are talking about pure hand speed. get that thru your thick head.
Who is the everyone? The point is NOT the pure hand speed but the need for justification with ON PANEL EVIDENCE. Wonderwoman has consistently failed to show her "pure hand speed" in one on one physical combat situations on panel. Get that thru ur thick head. you assume in this fight she will be able to do something that she has consistently been unable to.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Who is the everyone? The point is NOT the pure hand speed but the need for justification with ON PANEL EVIDENCE. Wonderwoman has consistently failed to show her "pure hand speed" in one on one physical combat situations on panel. Get that thru ur thick head. you assume in this fight she will be able to do something that she has consistently been unable to.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I"m assuming that she will be able to block his punches. Which she's done to superman who has far faster hand speed than surfer. I assume that she will strike Surfer with speed that she used to strike amazo. That is what I assume. Since surfer hasn't shown one on one reaction speeds approaching that of Wondy, Superman, Or Amazo. That is what I assume.
Not at all. You are assuming that she will be able to block all his punches based on her doing something she has never done in this type of situation. When she blocked supermans punches how fast was he punching?The speed she used to strike amazo? Are u talking about the time she lassoed him? If not, how was the punch depicted?I have repeatedly asked u to show her defending against a flurry of punches from someone and you have utterly failed to do so. LOL best melee fighter in the world? When u cant even show feats of her initiating numerous attacks at high speeds?You must be joking.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not at all. You are assuming that she will be able to block all his punches based on her doing something she has never done in this type of situation. When she blocked supermans punches how fast was he punching?The speed she used to strike amazo? Are u talking about the time she lassoed him? If not, how was the punch depicted?I have repeatedly asked u to show her defending against a flurry of punches from someone and you have utterly failed to do so. LOL best melee fighter in the world? When u cant even show feats of her initiating numerous attacks at high speeds?You must be joking.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I"m assuming that she will be able to block his punches. Which she's done to superman who has far faster hand speed than surfer. I assume that she will strike Surfer with speed that she used to strike amazo. That is what I assume. Since surfer hasn't shown one on one reaction speeds approaching that of Wondy, Superman, Or Amazo. That is what I assume. I assume that more of her strikes will land with precision becuz she's better trained. I assume that She will use her lasso to back her punches to over come surfer's durability. I assume that she's the best mele fighter in the world with planet moving strength and the speed of hermes. No one can beat Wondy at hand to hand except they be far faster and stronger.
Well if she gets to use her lasso then surfer get's to use his powers. He morphs her. Fight over. LOL.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I haven't once said anything about her attacks as of yet. I've stated that she will block surfer's punches. He hasn't shown ANY fast hand movements. And He hasn't shown any SKILL at throwing punches. Now that that is out of the way, I'm referring to wondy using super speed to leave amazo and then blitz him thru several floors so that she could push him into the slider. That was a blitz. She comments on how fast azamo is when he evades her super speed punch. HELLO. She was punching at superspeed and he evades it with faster speed.
How can the best melee fighter in the world have few if any instances of initiating superfast attacks? Im not sure of the instance u r talking about and considering ur views on speedblitzing id have to ask for a scan to be sure it is in line with this discussion( highly doubt it). Also when she commented on how fast amazo is did she actually say that she used a superspeed punch or are u just wrongly paraphrasing as usual? Frankly it seems u have nothing. I have repeatedly asked u to show some evidence of what u r sayin but u have failed each and every time.
Originally posted by snyper1982
Well if she gets to use her lasso then surfer get's to use his powers. He morphs her. Fight over. LOL.
Her lasso is part of her standard gear. Thread starter said surfer doesn't get to use any other powers. She would use her lasso for hand to hand only. And She is resistant to matter manip.
Originally posted by snyper1982
LOL. Because we don't know how fast surfer is without his board, I am assuming nothing changes, if you want to assume he looses all his speed, then go ahead and prove that to me. The burden of proof lies on you, because you are the one making a claim that he is not as fast without his board.
Actually its on u, we have seen examples of WW speed...now its ur turn to porve SS without his board.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I haven't once said anything about her attacks as of yet. I've stated that she will block surfer's punches. He hasn't shown ANY fast hand movements. And He hasn't shown any SKILL at throwing punches. Now that that is out of the way, I'm referring to wondy using super speed to leave amazo and then blitz him thru several floors so that she could push him into the slider. That was a blitz. She comments on how fast azamo is when he evades her super speed punch. HELLO. She was punching at superspeed and he evades it with faster speed.
I guess when surfer blitzed most of marvels big names, he held out his arm and just flew by right? LOL. Get real.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
How can the best melee fighter in the world have few if any instances of initiating superfast attacks? Im not sure of the instance u r talking about and considering ur views on speedblitzing id have to ask for a scan to be sure it is in line with this discussion( highly doubt it). Also when she commented on how fast amazo is did she actually say that she used a superspeed punch or are u just wrongly paraphrasing as usual? Frankly it seems u have nothing. I have repeatedly asked u to show some evidence of what u r sayin but u have failed each and every time.