Originally posted by The Great Galen
Catching Glad's is somehow comparable to beasting 2 top tiers at once...with precise preasure strikes all at superspeed. Besides Glad is marvels unfortunate whippingboy..who hasnt owned him.
I'll tell you who: Vulcan 😱
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Because SS has never fought a opponent who uses strength,h2h skill all at superspeed. Im not convinced about his abilities in close quarters and the only way I see him winning is by keeping his distance.
Of course he has! Its called Thanos and Surfer got schooled.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Because SS has never fought a opponent who uses strength,h2h skill all at superspeed. Im not convinced about his abilities in close quarters and the only way I see him winning is by keeping his distance.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Why does he have to keep his distance when his quickest path to victory is a One Hit KO via bullrush? Seems to me that the fight boils down to whether or not Supes can react to things moving at Surfer's top traveling speed(since that's the type of speed used in a bullrush).
Bullrush, you mean from there starting distance hes going to bullrush Supes....I suppose that makes sense except Supes has survived thishttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5190704 Maggadon warhead>SS Bullrush . Or how bout Supes flying towards SS and how will SS react to a opponent of Supes combat speed.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Bullrush, you mean from there starting distance hes going to bullrush Supes....I suppose that makes sense except Supes has survived this http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5190704Maggadon warhead>SS Bullrush . Or how bout Supes flying towards SS and how will SS react to a opponent of Supes combat speed.
Fixed it.
And did I say that Supes would go down from the bullrush? Unless I'm mistaken I just asked why he'd keep his distance because his best feat was one shotting Gladiator. That's why I don't like dealing with Exiles Surfer, his limited showings in an alternate reality make difficult to debate him.
But as for Supes coming at him with super speed goes, depending on how fast Gladiator was in that alternate reality(it varies greatly) it could be argued that Surfer would do this...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7616/exiles0872006teamdcp09xs9.jpg
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Bullrush, you mean from there starting distance hes going to bullrush Supes....I suppose that makes sense except Supes has survived thishttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5190704 Maggadon warhead>SS Bullrush . Or how bout Supes flying towards SS and how will SS react to a opponent of Supes combat speed.
Supes combat speed will only come into play in close quarter hand to hand. No need for SS to get into this when he can blast the hell out of superman while on his board. He has shown that he is able to execute multiple blasts at superspeeds while moving on his board. If supes starts flyin towards SS at sperspeed, SS who has a much faster mental processing rate can proceed to instantly( his control of his board is mental afterall) send his razor sharp board towards supes at an even greater speed which wud hurt greatly. While ON his board SS can certainly evade and avoid most of supermans attacks. The problem only comes when instead of blasting and flying around simultaneously in order to avoid supes, he tries to take on supes physically. Frakly unless trinity superman is no longer weak to kryptonite, red sun radiation and solar energy manipulation then this fight ends just as quickly as normal supes against SS.
Note: this is assuming that exiles SS has the same powerset as his 616 counter part.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Fixed it.And did I say that Supes would go down from the bullrush? Unless I'm mistaken I just asked why he'd keep his distance because his best feat was one shotting Gladiator. That's why I don't like dealing with Exiles Surfer, his limited showings in an alternate reality make difficult to debate him.
But as for Supes coming at him with super speed goes, depending on how fast Gladiator was in that alternate reality(it varies greatly) it could be argued that Surfer would do this...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7616/exiles0872006teamdcp09xs9.jpg
That was a cool feat but technically though shudnt regular 616 SS be able to do similar by restructuring his board into that sort of razor shape? Yes highly out of character but it wud be an effective way of easily taking out alot of characters.
Personally i think marvel was trying to show us just how dangerous SS can be with a little ruthlesness.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Fixed it.And did I say that Supes would go down from the bullrush? Unless I'm mistaken I just asked why he'd keep his distance because his best feat was one shotting Gladiator. That's why I don't like dealing with Exiles Surfer, his limited showings in an alternate reality make difficult to debate him.
But as for Supes coming at him with super speed goes, depending on how fast Gladiator was in that alternate reality(it varies greatly) it could be argued that Surfer would do this...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7616/exiles0872006teamdcp09xs9.jpg
You guys are crazy. I don't really care who you think wins, but SS isn't beating Supes in such a manner. The time he took to say: "to me my board" Supes would have smashed several shots on his mug.
Originally posted by Allankles
You guys are crazy. I don't really care who you think wins, but SS isn't beating Supes in such a manner. The time he took to say: "to me my board" Supes would have smashed several shots on his mug.
Actually SS saying "to me my board" was just for added effect as SS controls his board by mental command and not word of mouth. And no Ss wont be beating him just like that but it wud be a useful tactic.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Actually SS saying "to me my board" was just for added effect as SS controls his board by mental command and not word of mouth. And no Ss wont be beating him just like that but it wud be a useful tactic.
I know his words are for effect but they represent a pocket of time between Glads standing there with his fist in SSS's hands and the board slicing him in half. Supes wouldn't get caught by such a maneuver not to mention, there's no guarantee it's cutting him in half.
Originally posted by Allankles
I know his words are for effect but they represent a pocket of time between Glads standing there with his fist in SSS's hands and the board slicing him in half. Supes wouldn't get caught by such a maneuver not to mention, there's no guarantee it's cutting him in half.
He controls his board mentally so he cud have certainly summoned it much faster. The time it took him to call the board out aloud is not neccessarily how long it takes him to summon it. As i said it was just for effect. Also the board likely wont slice him in half but it wud still do some nice damage. Surfers board btw is much faster than superman so it wud be able to get him.
Originally posted by Allankles
You guys are crazy. I don't really care who you think wins, but SS isn't beating Supes in such a manner. The time he took to say: "to me my board" Supes would have smashed several shots on his mug.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Are you saying that Supes has never been taken aback when an opponent laughed at his best punch(or something similar)?
Not that I can remember. The last time something like that happened that I'm aware of was the Atlas fight, and he didn't stop trying ro drop Atlas even though his blows weren't having the desired effect. Superman is the persistent type, he says that if he hits anything long enough it goes down. Glads is the type who feeds on confidence, Superman just cares about action, he isn't afraid to lose. It also helps that Superman can seemingly control his strength by sheer will.
Originally posted by Allankles
Not that I can remember. The last time something like that happened that I'm aware of was the Atlas fight, and he didn't stop trying ro drop Atlas even though his blows weren't having the desired effect. Superman is the persistent type, he says that if he hits anything long enough it goes down. Glads is the type who feeds on confidence, Superman just cares about action, he isn't afraid to lose.
Originally posted by darthgoober
What about when he stood dumbfounded after DD took on an energy barrage from the Justice League and the got nailed by DD's charge because of it? Give me a minute and I'll come up with a better example(it WAS the whole Justice League after all so the surprise is understandable), that's just the first one I was able to think of(but I seriously doubt it'll be the last).
But that doesn't apply to his own efforts. He usually gauges a characters abilities anyway. He was throwing blows at Infninity Man even though the latter dwarfed him in power and durability. So I doubt he'd go :"OMG" if Surfer shrugged off his haymaker. Darkseid has tossed him around like he was nothing but Supes kept coming, he generally doesn't stop until he is stopped himself. The thing is Superman isn't afraid of people that are more powerful than him.
In DONG he acknowledges that the battle between the aspect of the Source and soulfire equation empowered Darkseid is way beyond his league but he still attacks DS, getting KO'd with one shot for his efforts. Of course SS isn't that powerful so I doubt Supes would be dumbstruck in such a sitaution.
