Originally posted by Wil7Or they could all just hide behind the fat one. Then again one body dying isn't going to harm Pein. And Itachi won't be able to do it 6 times even without the threat of being attacked from multiple angles.
How would Pein know where to jump? He would have to guees correctly where to. Itachi could use it when Pein is running at him, and once it starts burning, not even water can get rid of it, it keeps burning until you are ash. Jiraiya just sealed it away for study. If amaterasu connects, fight over.
Not to mention we have no idea how many bodies Pein actually has. We've seen 7 already plus his true form which we haven't seen. He may have more he could just keep bringing out if one gets destroyed. And he'll be fine through it all since his real self isn't among the bodies he fights with.
Itachi and Pein haven't fought, but looking at their power set alone, it is safe to conclude that Pein >>>> Itachi.
Powerset.
You mean, feats.
c'mon now. 😬
And... no. The only thing we've seen that's above even Orichimaru level from J-Man is that ultimate genjutsu, something Itachi seems to have in abundance. Itachi has a technique that can burn through anything, a doujutsu that basically makes melee combat against him void, thee penultimate genjutsu of the entire show, which can be activated just by simply looking at someone, etc. J-Man's power set (feats) are pathetic in comparison.
As for Pein, it depends. We know Itachi can ensare multiple people with Tsukiyomi. If he caught all six in it, where's the proof they'd manage to get out? No in Naruto history has on-panel gotten out of Tsukiyomi by themselves without a Sharingan.
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Powerset.You mean, feats.
c'mon now. 😬\
Pein has a better power set,
possessing all 6 different chakra types.
Who's to say that he doesn't have Tsukiyomi as well?
With 6 different chakra types, he probably knows every single ninjutsu like the founder of the Ninja world.
The powers they possess, and use, are counted as feats. Performing an ability is pulling off a feat.
Pein has a better power set,
possessing all 6 different chakra types.
Irrelevant, that just means he knows a lot of elemental releases. Won't help against Itachi.
Who's to say that he doesn't have Tsukiyomi as well?
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The Naruto manga itself does. Tsukiyomi is a special kekke genkai trait, meaning no one can possibly learn it unless they have the Sharingan. Having elemental releases doesn't give you the Sharingan.
I'm convinced now that you don't know very much about Naruto.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.21537/page.5/
Pein wasn't the first. Rikudou was.
well lets go through pain'ss powerset again
9 illusionary dragons - sealing technique initiated by pain strong enough to seal even tailed beasts
all elemental affinity - he can use all elemental chakra perfectly in affinity with it as opposed to others who only have two affinities at best
magical rain - has a jutsu which can make rain fall over his entire country indefinately which can detect any change in pattern of falling and any chakra or person even if they are using high level jutsus to hide themselves
berserker - sumthing shown when nagato was a child, he loses conciousness when in danger and easily murdered a chuunin without knowing any nijutsu techniques unconciously
has nearly unbeatable genjutsu defences in the minds of all the bodies he uses.
has 6 bodies {which are sumhow connected with foes jiraya beat before, whether that was a genjutsu or sumthing else, we dont know}
all 6 bodies share the same conciousness and percelption hence giving him multiple perspectives to fight from
according to madara, has never lost a fight in his entire life
killed the salamander who defeated konoha's entire army and te three sannin and hence gave them their title.
each body of pain's has special abilities, 1. absorbing even the most devestating attacks like oil blast lake, and ultimate raasengan of the sage form, using special black weapons, firing your fists, summongin MULTIPLE beasts all of whom are devestating in their own right even against the higher level summons and have special abilities like spouting bubbles
the bodies are practically immorta, as they were hit with an extremely high level genjutsu{which even impressed pain} and then all driven through by HUGE summoned swords, and all got right back up and went on to kill jiraya.
their ful abilities and those of the rinnegan havent been seen yet, we know that he is planning to attack and destroy konoha alone, and rikoudu, the creator of jutsus themselves and the ninja world had them, they were said to be a tool of the heavens which wud save or destroy the world.
by sealing the bijuu, pain is trying to create a weapon with the power to destroy a country in under a second and then be reused.
it is hinted that the real pain isnt even among the fighting bodies. and that konan has special powers connected with pain.
any1 who has opposed pain as of yet has died.
well, thats it for now, i know im forgetting sum feats/stuff. but judge for yourselves if itachi is stronger than pain.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually thats not what they said. kisame said that even though itachi would be ok against sum1 like jiraya, he himself could not take a sennin and was worried. to which itachi replied, that there was no need to fight him, and it would be putting them both in unnecessary danger, and they cudnt be sure that they would leave the battle undamaged. or sumthing like that. they never said jiraya cud BEAT them.
i agree