Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah they did.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
agreed.

Where does it say it? They never say that. Read it.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/144/08/

Kisame says that he may be a match for both of them at once and Itachi doesn't exactly disagree.

Where does he say that?

Kisame - That guy might be a match for the #1 of the Leaf and one of the Mist's Seven strongest.

He doesn't say Jiraiya will be a match for either one of us. He says a match for both of them.

Yes, but it never says Jiaiya could beat Itachi, and Kisame.

How odd.

Cause I distinctly remember the Japanese anime saying that he would kill both of them even with more people.

Oh well, so Jiraiya by his lonesome is a match for both of them.

did sasuke use TSUKIYOMI against kiraba?!?! i only remember that it was a GENJUTSU consisting of him being impaled by spikes. remember, that itachi and sasuke have loads of NORMAL genjutsu which arent tsukiyomi.

and i distinctly remember the japanese anime saying that kisame cudnt take him but he thought itachi cud, to which itachi replied that there wud be no guaruntee that they cud escape the battle unharmed and it wud putting them in unnecessary danger.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
did sasuke use TSUKIYOMI against kiraba?!?! i only remember that it was a GENJUTSU consisting of him being impaled by spikes. remember, that itachi and sasuke have loads of NORMAL genjutsu which arent tsukiyomi.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
How odd.

Cause I distinctly remember the Japanese anime saying that he would kill both of them even with more people.

Oh well, so Jiraiya by his lonesome is a match for both of them.

Thats what the anime said. But being a match for the two of them is not that bad either.

no i just rechecked the scans, it wasnt tsukiyomi. it was just an unnamed genjutsu. jeez jaxx, ur getting senile.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
no i just rechecked the scans, it wasnt tsukiyomi. it was just an unnamed genjutsu. jeez jaxx, ur getting senile.

And can you provide the scan?

i just went on onemanga and looked. well plenty actually{and it wasnt itachi's mangekyo and it is coming more to light that itachi might have implanted ONLY amaterasu in sasuke's eyes} the counter genjutsu that itachi used on kurenai}, the genjutsu that itachi clone produced against naruto first time in shippuden, and i think the beginning of the fight with sasuke , he wasnt using tsukiyomi if i remember correctly.

and he didnt say "amaterasu", nor bleed from the eyes, nor was there a red moon. and amaterasu is unbateable, even if you have a BUDDY around with you like kakashi did.

oh hey that reminds me, one of the powers of pain i forgot to put down is that he has a jutsu with which he can make clones of characters with 30 percent the chakra, all battle skills and even kekai genkai abilities copied like sharingan{although mangekyo was unavailable} id say pain>>>itachi.

Well the Mangekyo was only available because of the fact that 30% chakra is too little to use it.

^ we dont know that, it cud well be just a technicality that a clone CANT have a mangekyo even if it can duplicate a normal kekai genkai. mangekyo sharingan/ultimate magekyo sharingan and rinnegan are the most special kekai genkais in the series. well i guess it just goes to show that pain is THAT much stronger than itachi.

guys its just settled giraya is the strongest
kisame compared giraiyas strentgh to that of the first hokage plus that of kisame
honestly pain and madara and probaly the third and first hokage can beat giraiya

pain said it him self giraiya could of beat him
on top of that giraaiya could of escape pain
the oldest people in naruto are usuall sstronger ill admit if itachi would have lived to be older he would probably surpass giraiya power
orochimaru called itachis sussanoo weak what does that say

Kisame questioned Itachi's retreat and Itachi replied that there was no hurry.

Itachi could've most likely taken out Jiraiya.