Originally posted by fascistcrusader
And PC Supes has been defeated by a normal human who can't even grow his own hair. Low showings go both ways you know.
So what's you;re point, PC supes high end showings completly dwarf WM Thors by comparison...and WM Thor doesnt have the speed or reflex to counter a bullrush from PC Supes.
So what's you;re point, PC supes high end showings completly dwarf WM Thors by comparison...and WM Thor doesnt have the speed or reflex to counter a bullrush from PC Supes.
The point is that SUpes has failed a lot more miserably than your low showing for Thor.
With the gem Supes isn't going to be able to harm him. And there is absolutely nothing Supes could do against the Mjolnir, he'd go down hard at SS, but WM Thor w/ the PG would obliterate him.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The point is that SUpes has failed a lot more miserably than your low showing for Thor.With the gem Supes isn't going to be able to harm him. And there is absolutely nothing Supes could do against the Mjolnir, he'd go down hard at SS, but WM Thor w/ the PG would obliterate him.
So basically what you're saying is that WM Thor would be able to react to a bullrush from PC Supes, who's speed was so fast that it nearly destroyed the universe?
So basically what you're saying is that WM Thor would be able to react to a bullrush from PC Supes, who's speed was so fast that it nearly destroyed the universe?
No, I'm saying he wouldn't need to, with the power gem Supes wouldn't be able to significantly harm Thor. Thor would crush Supes with the Mjolnir, though.
Originally posted by The Great GalenSupes is very weak against magic. Thor has no limits here and can godblast at any time since you want to make the speedblitz argument.
And some poster seem to foget how fast PC Supes coul bullrush if he need to..oh and on that note PC supe shas actually destroyed a solar system on panel...still waiting for Thanos to show that 🙂
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No, I'm saying he wouldn't need to, with the power gem Supes wouldn't be able to significantly harm Thor. Thor would crush Supes with the Mjolnir, though.
So you didnt awnser the question, can WM Thor react to a bullrush from PC Supes that was capable of destroying the universe....yes or no?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Im not talking about combat, im talking about a bullrush 🙂
BTW, when has Supes gone so fast he destroyed the universe?
Originally posted by darthgoober
No I mean is it "in character" for Supes to bullrush that fast when he's fighting? Seems to me that destroying the universe to bullrush his opponent would go against Supes's personality.BTW, when has Supes gone so fast he destroyed the universe?
When he was chasing Kara, he was blitzing at such a speed that spectre had to stop him before he would have destroyed the universe.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And the knowledge that he was going to destroy the universe inspired him to refrain from using that speed anymore?
No, Spectre had to actually intefer. He later explains to him exactly why he had to stop him "Superman was threatening countless civilizations across all of Reality, by shattering all of it's Universal barriers and nearly breaking into Heaven:".
Originally posted by The Great Galen
No, Spectre had to actually intefer. He later explains to him exactly why he had to stop him "Superman was threatening countless civilizations across all of Reality, by shattering all of it's Universal barriers and nearly breaking into Heaven:".
Originally posted by The Great Galen
And some poster seem to foget how fast PC Supes coul bullrush if he need to..oh and on that note PC supe shas actually destroyed a solar system on panel...
Wasn't Mxy involved in this tomfoolery?
Originally posted by darthgoober
But did Superman ever try it again after he found out?
From what I recall Supes was speeding through looking for Kara when the Spectre stopped him and said he had to stop because he was breaking dimensional barriers and the last one was heaven's barrier. Supes is mortified then god talks and brings back Kara. Supes wasn't just over powering reality or something he was destabilizing it.
Originally posted by darthgoober
But did Superman ever try it again after he found out?
I'm going to end that line of Galen's argument right now:
Galen, you and I and anyone else who has read the comic know that it was not a bullrush or a blitz. It was travel speed. He was chasing Kara. That's it. And you're the one who has said that travel speed =/ blitz speed.
Got something else?
As far as blowing apart a solar system with a sneeze...that's stupidity. As you can't actually even sneeze in space. Same thing with him using his breath to blow a planet out of orbit. You can't blow/breath/suck in and exhale air in space. And when he throws that neutron star weighing trillions of tons...it's the size of a basketball!! Neutron stars are around 20 kilometers in diameter. So that feat is also bullshit.
Superboy pulling planets on chains that look like the size of gumballs...although poorly drawn, I kind of let stand because there's not too much reason why he wouldn't be able to do that. But the above feats mentioned literally make zero sense and shouldn't even be counted.
See, I like you think Prime = PC Supes in power. The reason why some think PC Supes is stronger is exactly the feats I've mentioned. But those same feats make no sense whatsoever, and comic writers have a much better understanding of the BS they can feed people nowadays, so you'll probably never see Prime tossing a star the size of his torso or some other "WTF?" feat.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm going to end that line of Galen's argument right now:Galen, you and I and anyone else who has read the comic know that it was not a bullrush or a blitz. It was travel speed. He was chasing Kara. That's it. And you're the one who has said that travel speed =/ blitz speed.
Got something else?
As far as blowing apart a solar system with a sneeze...that's stupidity. As you can't actually even sneeze in space. Same thing with him using his breath to blow a planet out of orbit. You can't blow/breath/suck in and exhale air in space. And when he throws that neutron star weighing trillions of tons...it's the size of a basketball!! Neutron stars are around 20 kilometers in diameter. So that feat is also bullshit.
Superboy pulling planets on chains that look like the size of gumballs...although poorly drawn, I kind of let stand because there's not too much reason why he wouldn't be able to do that. But the above feats mentioned literally make zero sense and shouldn't even be counted.
See, I like you think Prime = PC Supes in power. The reason why some think PC Supes is stronger is exactly the feats I've mentioned. But those same feats make no sense whatsoever, and comic writers have a much better understanding of the BS they can feed people nowadays, so you'll probably never see Prime tossing a star the size of his torso or some other "WTF?" feat.
I wasn't suggesting his travel speed=blitz speed, I was referring directly about his bullrushing speed. Aside from that, while it's true that PC Supes was a lesson in comedy, it still doesnt subtract his feats which are perfectly valid in a forum battle.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Aside from that, while it's true that PC Supes was a lesson in comedy, it still doesnt subtract his feats which are perfectly valid in a forum battle.
Meh...if I were arguing for Supes, I would leave them out, simply to spare people's sanity. Those feats are so ridiculous it makes the writers look like 4th grade children who have zero concept of physics OR comic book physics.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh...if I were arguing for Supes, I would leave them out, simply to spare people's sanity. Those feats are so ridiculous it makes the writers look like 4th grade children who have zero concept of physics OR comic book physics.
Well how often does this occur, Spidey beat firelord and doged blast from Adam and other top tiers....or how about SS not realizing that Thanos power comes from his ship even after numerous encounters.