PC Superman runs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by darthgoober
It is equatable, but there's a difference between something being possible and something being "in character". Surfer can travel millions of times the speed of light and going by logic all he'd have to do is aim his board at his opponents neck to decapitate him at that speed, but you'll never see me seriously argue for him to do that kind of thing because it's out of character for him.

Right it isnt in his character, just like h2h isnt in SS character to do. However, when PC supes has fougt agaisnt foes all he really does is bullrush...he didnt have MA back in the day so this is basically his only tactic.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right it isnt in his character, just like h2h isnt in SS character to do. However, when PC supes has fougt agaisnt foes all he really does is bullrush...he didnt have MA back in the day so this is basically his only tactic.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer has h2h showings, thus it is in character for him. And if all Supes did was bullrush and you're claiming it's in character for him to knowingly do so just to blitz an opponent, then you shouldn't have any difficulty finding an instance of his killing an opponent in cold blood by destroying the universe via high speed bullrush.

He doesn't have to kill SS just ko him via high speed bullrush.

Originally posted by Allankles
He doesn't have to kill SS just ko him via high speed bullrush.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
LMAO, time shattering punch for the win..srry quan.

Originally posted by Allankles
WM Thor struggled with a force cage. PC Supes operates at higher power levels.

Originally posted by Allankles
It's within his power set. Such a Bullrush would obliterate SS.

Originally posted by Allankles
He doesn't have to kill SS just ko him via high speed bullrush.

SS has an on-panel bullrush of 31.5 million times light speed. Supes couldn't even see Darkseid move when he grabbed him by the throat.

If anything, SS will blitz Supes. Unless you have scans of PC Supes rushing people. Which him chasing Kara, is not.

Originally posted by Enyalus
SS has an on-panel bullrush of 31.5 million times light speed. Supes couldn't even see Darkseid move when he grabbed him by the throat.

If anything, SS will blitz Supes. Unless you have scans of PC Supes rushing people. Which him chasing Kara, is not.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Chasing Kara is an indicator of his silly speed. He wont' be getting blitzed. Not when you can travel millions of universes in seconds.

Darkseid did. And he's never traveled across universes in seconds.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Darkseid did. And he's never traveled across universes in seconds.

He was traveling across different universes in seconds breaking dimentional barriers as he went through.

Originally posted by Allankles
He was traveling across different universes in seconds breaking dimentional barriers as he went through.

That's nice. And yet Darkseid was able to move so quickly and grab him by the throat that he didn't even register any movement.

He can be blitzed/bullrushed himself. Fact.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And all Surfer has to do is blast him with red sun or k-nite...

So it's 50/50 then (being kind to SS). But Supes has out sped a radiation wave which at least moves at the speed of light, and can convert red sun radiation to yellow sun radiation apparently. If SS shoots k-nite radiation at a distance there's every possibility Supes can out pace it and disrupt it with his vision powers.

Originally posted by Allankles
So it's 50/50 then (being kind to SS). But Supes has out sped a radiation wave which at least moves at the speed of light, and can convert red sun radiation to yellow sun radiation apparently. If SS shoots k-nite radiation at a distance there's every possibility Supes can out pace it and disrupt it with his vision powers.

Supes has a blitz, Surfer has Red Sun, K-nite, and solar enery absorption... that's 4/1 in Surfer's favor.

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's nice. And yet Darkseid was able to move so quickly and grab him by the throat that he didn't even register any movement.

He can be blitzed/bullrushed himself. Fact.

If he isn't battle ready yes (his perception though incredibly impressive, is not infallible), he was still in his Clark Kent disguise there anyway, not prepared to battle.

If he's battle ready it's a different scenario clearly, since he wasn't even expecting to be attacked while in the guise of a human, it would be easier to catch him off guard there with super speed.

Originally posted by darthgoober
How is that 50/50?

Supes has a blitz, Surfer has Red Sun, K-nite, and solar enery absorption... that's 4/1 in Surfer's favor.

Solar energy absoprtion? First of all Kryptonians use Solar radiation to unlock the power in their cells it is not the energy directly running their super powers. In relatively recent stories in the Superman comics the (Third Kryptonian arch) the kryptonians described the effect of solar radiation as such: merely the means with which their inherent abilities are unlocked, other suns confer different benefits etc etc.

So that's one huge question mark there on solar radiation.

Supes can convert red sun radiation to yellow sun radiation, there's another x to that.

All he's got definitively is k-nite radiation which leaves it at 1/1, 50/50 and that's assuming that SS will discover Supes weakness in the time Supes gets to him and KO's him.

Originally posted by Allankles
Solar energy absoprtion? First of all Kryptonians use Solar radiation to unlock the power in their cells it is not the energy directly running their super powers. In relatively recent stories in the Superman comics the (Third Kryptonian arch) the kryptonians described the effect of solar radiation as such: merely the means with which their inherent abilities are unlocked, other suns confer different benefits etc etc.

So that's one huge question mark there on solar radiation.

Supes can convert red sun radiation to yellow sun radiation, there's another x to that.

All he's got definitively is k-nite radiation which leaves it at 1/1, 50/50 and that's assuming that SS will discover Supes weakness in the time Supes gets to him and KO's him.

And my bad on the math, it would be 3/1 in Surfer's favor(too high to count I guess).

Originally posted by darthgoober
You're talking about current Supes, but this thread is about PC Supes. So when did PC Supes show a resistance to solar energy absorption and when did he ever change red sunlight to yellow when he was being bombarded by it?

And my bad on the math, it would be 3/1 in Surfer's favor(too high to count I guess).

In one comic PC Supes out speeds a red sun radiation wave and converts it to yellow sun radiation. Solar radiation absorption with PC Supes when?

Originally posted by Allankles
In one comic PC Supes out speeds a red sun radiation wave and converts it to yellow sun radiation.

Originally posted by Allankles
Solar radiation absorption with PC Supes when?

Originally posted by Allankles
If he isn't battle ready yes (his perception though incredibly impressive, is not infallible), he was still in his Clark Kent disguise there anyway, not prepared to battle.

If he's battle ready it's a different scenario clearly, since he wasn't even expecting to be attacked while in the guise of a human, it would be easier to catch him off guard there with super speed.

Meh, you have a valid point there. I was being a bit too black and white.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Different situation than being bombarded by it in combat. He knew that the wave was coming and took time to figure out all the necessary calculations while back peddling away from it, he's not going to have that chance here. If he starts back peddling away from a blast Surfer can just stick him in a containment field.

He can easily shatter energy shields. Hell even the weaker post crisis Supes shatter force cages with ease.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not sure but I'm pretty sure it happened. In any case, you'd need confirmation that PC Supes's powers are only unlocked by solar energy(which was your initial claim).

I believe they were I don't have contradicting info. Furthermore it makes far more sense that his powers are unlocked by solar radiation because the the energy he obtains directly from solar radiation wouldn't be sufficient to allow him to accomplish his feats.

So he either super metabolizes the radiation (as many writers claim), or it basically unlocks some inter dimensional power source locked away in the kryptonian cells as some stories allude to. One story even states that entropic energies are locked within his cells.