The Imperial Navy

Hello its me again...and this time im not doing a useless thread this time its Valid...

Ok the Imperial Navy are suppost to be the Best of the Best in the Empire...Ok...So....WE DONT SEE IT...

It is stated SEVERAL times in the EU that IMPERIAL TIE PILOTS are THE best pilots in the galaxy...even tho they fly Unshielded Tie Fighters and Tie Interceptors the Tie Fighter has a Higher Manuvering Capability Correct....and it's Cannons shoot faster...

Now the Rebel Alliance's Ships are Shielded...thats about it...and it has more powerful weapons..

It would seem like the Imperial Tie Fighter Pilot would be able to Wipe Up with the Rebel Pilots other then the A-WINGS and we also see in the Star Wars Movies that the Shielding isent that much...since Tie Fighers with like 3 shots blew some rebel pilots into space dust...

So...Whats the deal?

dont capitalize every other word, it gets REALLY annoying. The TIEs were mass produced, so although the pilots are good, they fly crappy ships, if thats what you want to know. What exactly DO you want to know?

Well, no one ever said the rebels didn't get killed a lot. But you have enough pilots gaining experience through guerilla strikes, TIE pilot's defecting, plus some other various sources, and you'll have a decent Rebel Fighter Corp.

The TIE would destroy rebel fighters every time, assuming the rebels were dumb enough to engage the Empire in open conflict every time.

Oh what the hell...

a) Most of the Rebel pilots where trained by the Imperial Navy themselves, which - of course - means, that they would have received equal training to all those TIE-Fighter pilots, yet they have the better ships. So it's actually no great surprise that they get blown out of the sky in most occassions.

b) You answered the other part of the question yourself: The Rebel starfighters have shields. And more powerful weapons. So the chances are quite great that a Rebel fighter pilot will be able to take it up with an Imperial fighter pilot, even if the latter should have the greater piloting skills. In fact: The Rebel pilot just needs one single hit to destroy a TIE-Fighter. Which he might manage to do by luck.

That and the fact that in George Lucas' "black and white good guys are awesome bad guys are cannon fodder idiots" universe, the bad guy grunts are always inferior. Jedi and Clones > Droids. Rebellion > Imperials man-to-man.

Anyone care to explain how a farmboy, a princess, and two smuggelers managed to escape from an entire battle station's worth of the Imperial's finest foot soldiers, the 501st?

They let them go.

Afterwords with the TIE's, yeah. That doesn't explain how every time they engaged in a firefight with a squad of troopers the stormies got their asses kicked.

Weren't the Stormtroopers on the Death Star at the time the 501st's replacement, ala BF 2? If so, they were the fresh out of Boot.

Not sure. I don't think so though because I seem to remember the game remarking that shortly afterwards the DS was blown up and it took a chunk of the 501st with it.

But even then, a soldier fresh out ofd combat training should be able to handle a gun in a military scenario better than Luke, who's only experience is using probably a hunting rifle...

I only see it as remotely feasible that they go away as they did due to circumstance. They got the surprise on the docking bay soldiers and the ones in the detention center, they had "cover" in the narrow hallway and on the bridge. What really bugs me is that Luke somehow managed to stand in an open docking bay while a dozen stormtroopers fire at him, and not get hit.

Stormtroopers and TIEs are famously rubbish and that's just how it is.

In fact TIEs seemed roughly equivalent with X-Wings in ANH, with it being a Thunderbolts vs. Zero Fighters inpsired thing. but in ROTJ the TIEs are getting massacred in massive numbers.

It's a shame but it's the way it is.

Though they did let them go from the Death Star (and not just from the TIEs).

i want to recut all of the movies except get rid of things like 'clone armor thats made so that clones die in one hit'

I'm wounded! like hit, but non fataly!
I thought this armor was supposed to make sure you were dead... i mean, why else would we wear it?
Are you sure your not dead?
NO! i'm not dead!

LOL Wounded Storm Trooper Fan Vid...I WUVED ITZ...but still...yea I KNOW THEY ARE SUPPOST to die and everything...but i still think GL could have made them alot tougher...i mean really...how the hell does anyone miss a Man Standing out in the Open standing still....I can hit that while running...

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Stormtroopers and TIEs are famously rubbish and that's just how it is.

Doesn't role in the EU forum, Ushman.

There is no in-universe explanation for why the Imperial forces suck compared to the Rebels. Maybe it's because the Rebels are mostly American while the Imperials are British?

Pretty much. Since when have the British ever had naval experience?

Originally posted by Tangible God
Pretty much. Since when have the British ever had naval experience?

When they invaded the colonies...and then America later on.

and they had the huge Naval Battles with Spain they totally wiped out the Spanish Armada with a group of smaller and much fewer ships.

It was sarcasm, you asshats. 😐

Normally I'd excuse them, seeing as how it's hard to convey it. But Jesus-tap dancing-Christ.

That was sarcasm?

Sarcasm is a form of Irony. 😱