Originally posted by Enyalus
Without CIS, Norrin drains the Super Sun dry - using it to amp himself - and then beats Supes 1M's weak ass (who can't even fly or use heat vision at that point).With CIS, Supes 1M completely dominates him.
With CIS, SS still loses in terrible fashion. Supes 1M had no weakness and he had a insane amp in stats...SS is literally gone in fhe first opening momments to the fight.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
With CIS, SS still loses in terrible fashion. Supes 1M had no weakness and he had a insane amp in stats...SS is literally gone in fhe first opening momments to the fight.
Yes, with CIS. Without, a different story. You realize, the Super Sun is the only reason he has his powers. When we went back to the 20th century, he was reduced to not even being able to fly in less than a week (conservative estimate, as I forget the exact time frame).
Surfer has amped himself from the sun before. And is certainly capable of destroying one.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, [b]with CIS. Without, a different story. You realize, the Super Sun is the only reason he has his powers. When we went back to the 20th century, he was reduced to not even being able to fly in less than a week (conservative estimate, as I forget the exact time frame).Surfer has amped himself from the sun before. And is certainly capable of destroying one. [/B]
Originally posted by fangirl101
Without His powers and being weakened, he was still able to punch thru time. Are you kidding me. Surfer is going to get beaten anway you look at it.
Using a broken time portal...it wasn't like SBP, for instance, retcon punching ice (or whatever that barrier was made of).
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, [b]with CIS. Without, a different story. You realize, the Super Sun is the only reason he has his powers. When we went back to the 20th century, he was reduced to not even being able to fly in less than a week (conservative estimate, as I forget the exact time frame).Surfer has amped himself from the sun before. And is certainly capable of destroying one. [/B]
Srry that was supposed to read"with or without"CIS. Anyhow SS has never amped himself to levels even comparable to Supes 1M. SS is able to destroy suns but...well in the time it would take him to do so SM1M will already have KO'ed him several times. There is really no means for SS to win this fight...its a lost cause.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Srry that was supposed to read"with or without"CIS. Anyhow SS has never amped himself to levels even comparable to Supes 1M. SS is able to destroy suns but...well in the time it would take him to do so SM1M will already have KO'ed him several times. There is really no means for SS to win this fight...its a lost cause.
So...Surfer can survive repeated shots from two beings that rival Galactus' power without being KO'd, but Supes 1M - who isn't even the most powerful version of Superman - is going to KO him 'several times'? Try again.
Originally posted by EnyalusSurfer has also been hurt by storm's lightning. Twice. At least. So find some middle ground.
So...Surfer can survive repeated shots from two beings that rival Galactus' power without being KO'd, but Supes 1M - who isn't even the most powerful version of Superman - is going to KO him 'several times'? Try again.
Originally posted by Enyalus
So...Surfer can survive repeated shots from two beings that rival Galactus' power without being KO'd, but Supes 1M - who isn't even the most powerful version of Superman - is going to KO him 'several times'? Try again.
Supes 1M is easily one of the most powerful incarnations...oh and SS was actually getting brutalized by T&A had Galen not helped him. He stood to there attacks but...well he was nearly killed as a result. SS can not efford to get hit by Supes1M...a couple of blows is all it will take. Superman 1M 10/10
Originally posted by fangirl101
And this is under the super Sun. So superman while weakened punched a hole thru time. what would he be like under the super sun?
Wasn't a whole lot of help against Solaris. And it would take Surfer at most a second to destroy the Super Sun. If CIS is off. With it on, I already acknowledged Supes 1M's dominance.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes 1M is easily one of the most powerful incarnations...oh and SS was actually getting brutalized by T&A had Galen not helped him. He stood to there attacks but...well he was nearly killed as a result. SS can not efford to get hit by Supes1M...a couple of blows is all it will take. Superman 1M 10/10
You need to read the arc again. Galactus only helps to heal the Surfer after his battle with T&A. Surfer is the one who defeats them, without Galen's help.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Wasn't a whole lot of help against Solaris. And it would take Surfer at most a second to destroy the Super Sun. If CIS is off. With it on, I already acknowledged Supes 1M's dominance.
Doesnt matter if CIS is on/off, he loses regardless of the situation. It would take just a second for Superman 1M to reach SS and then its lights out. Honestly this fight is just a shit stomp in favor of Superman 1M...there isnt anything SS can do.