Originally posted by Enyalus
@ Avlon - I just thought of something insanely cheap which ends the fight automatically. Surfer sucks the solar energy out of Supes 1M's cells, similar to what he did against Hulk. LOL [/B]
I appreciate your enthusiasm LOL.
Seriously though, I don't see that working against regular Superman, much less Superman 1M.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That was during the Infinity Crusade which was before Surfer was upgraded by the Blackbody during the Unilord Saga. And after that upgrade his body was able to contain enough power to equal the Unilord. To my knowledge he hasn't shown any problems from absorbing too much energy since then.
The Infinity Crusade is a definite on panel example though. As for the blackbody upgrade. Is there anything on panel which says that Surfer kept it afterwards?
Originally posted by Avlon
The Infinity Crusade is a definite on panel example though. As for the blackbody upgrade. Is there anything on panel which says that Surfer kept it afterwards?
He does keep it afterwards (for sure)...but I wouldn't have the scans, and goober might.
Seriously though, I don't see that working against regular Superman, much less Superman 1M.
Triumph did it to Supes. Surfer should certainly be able to do so.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Triumph did it to Supes. Surfer should certainly be able to do so.
Triumph was powered by an imp, had to have physical contact with him, and had nil effect (as Superman was trying to reason with him, not fight) since Supes got up and punched him afterwards.
3 things that Surfer has against him with regular Supes. Others have tried and it's not a viable tactic. Then there is the fact that it's out of character for Surfer AND we don't know if he can absorb Superman's energy since it isn't stored as sunlight.
Then this is Superman 1M. The most that can be said is that tactic is completely speculative since it hasn't been shown effective or even viable against him.
Originally posted by Enyalus
....His power is stored in his suit, if I'm not mistaken. Supes 1M, that is....Like I said, with CIS on, Surfer gets stomped.
The only version of Superman that stores power in his suit that I'm aware of is Steel.
Supes 1M is part 5th dimensional IMP. The fortress of solitude doesn't even register his DNA as kryptonian.
Originally posted by Avlon
The Infinity Crusade is a definite on panel example though. As for the blackbody upgrade. Is there anything on panel which says that Surfer kept it afterwards?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Is there anything on panel that specifically says that Supes kept his powerup after the incident involving Cyborg and the Eradicator?
You mean like Superman mentioning it himself and it becoming part of some arcs?
I'll ask again and if you have an answer that isn't a dodge, I'd appreciate it.
As for the blackbody upgrade. Is there anything on panel which says that Surfer kept it afterwards?
Originally posted by Avlon
You mean like Superman mentioning it himself and it becoming part of some arcs?
Originally posted by Avlon
I'll ask again and if you have an answer that isn't a dodge, I'd appreciate it.As for the blackbody upgrade. Is there anything on panel which says that Surfer kept it afterwards?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah that kind of thing. But I'd like to see scans or issue numbers please.
He brings it up in Hunter/Prey in one example. Darkseid mentions in in OWAW, Lobo brings it up in their battle afterwards.
A better example that you could have used is the magic defense upgrade gift that Phantom Stranger gave Superman. It was never mentioned that he lost it either...
Originally posted by darthgoober
No dodge, just making sure you're applying the same standards to everyone. I'll go to the trouble of looking just as soon as proof is provided for Supes.
That's fine...but you STILL haven't answered my question.
Originally posted by Avlon
He brings it up in Hunter/Prey in one example. Darkseid mentions in in OWAW, Lobo brings it up in their battle afterwards.
Originally posted by Avlon
That's fine...but you STILL haven't answered my question.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't suppose you know the issue numbers so I don't have to read the whole arc?
I gave you the answer. Hunter/Prey and OWAW. They sell the arcs in self contained books. If you don't want to download the arcs themselves, Barnes and Nobles does have them (and they don't SEEM to mind people sitting around reading.)
Originally posted by darthgoober
I said I'd look, I'm just checking on Supes's first.
Smells of a dodge. I asked you for this first. Are you SURE that it's mentioned that he kept that upgrade?
Originally posted by Avlon
I gave you the answer. Hunter/Prey and OWAW. They sell the arcs in self contained books. If you don't want to download the arcs themselves, Barnes and Nobles does have them (and they don't SEEM to mind people sitting around reading.)
Originally posted by Avlon
Smells of a dodge. I asked you for this first. Are you SURE that it's mentioned that he kept that upgrade?
Anyway we can continue in a while because Clone Wars is on and I've been wanting to check it out.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah, ok I'll check them out.
I'd suggest Hunter/Prey first. OWAW is a huge and confusing mess in some parts.
On a slightly different note... here's Superman making a case against the Quintessence (skyfather level beings) and stating that the only thing keeping him from joining their ranks is his love for mortals. They don't disagree...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course not, if I were sure I wouldn't have said I'll check now would I?Anyway we can continue in a while because Clone Wars is on and I've been wanting to check it out.
OK. That's a question I've had on my mind for a while...
Originally posted by Avlon
I'd suggest Hunter/Prey first. OWAW is a huge and confusing mess in some parts.On a slightly different note... here's Superman making a case against the Quintessence (skyfather level beings) and stating that the only thing keeping him from joining their ranks is his love for mortals. They don't disagree...
OK. That's a question I've had on my mind for a while...
I was wondering what would happen if Steel decide to attack the Quintessence at that time.?
