Originally posted by Juntai
In For Tomorrow in a skirmish, a fully prepared and ready-to-take-down-Superman Wonder Woman showed up, with her shield and sword and couldn't mount an effective attack on Superman, and he didn't even want to fight her, was just trying to save some people. [edit;He just posted the scans above me, lol]No, she's not smarter than he is. Not even close.
I never suggested he was 10x stronger, just that he is clearly her superior particularly at base levels.
She had to be tacticle to make up for his vast other advanges, and knew she would still be overwhelmed. She might not wanted to fight Clark in particular, not anyone should, however, she was the one fighting for the fate of Earth in that moment
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Unless you want to claim that Clark is wiser than Athena, then yes, she is.
The entire point of this discussion is whether or not he is in fact 10 times stronger than her. I hold that he isn't. He is stronger than her, but not by that much.
And the word is tactical. I'm sorry. That was driving me crazy 😕
Originally posted by Juntai
You forgot the pages right before that, where she attacked him from behind, and he just catches her sword arm out of the air.
Well This sure as hell doesn't look like he's ten times stronger to me.
[QUOTE=11134209]Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Assumptions are often apart of arguments. And I like how you ignored the entire point of that post; i.e. your analogy was completely off base. [/QUOTE
Debating facts are apart of arguments as well, but hey if you wanna continue with the wild speculation thing go ahead. Supes FTW via power cosmic...oh dont u know he can do it now 😄
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Unless you want to claim that Clark is wiser than Athena, then yes, she is.The entire point of this discussion is whether or not he is in fact 10 times stronger than her. I hold that he isn't. He is stronger than her, but not by that much.
And the word is tactical. I'm sorry. That was driving me crazy 😕
lol, no ur right she is MUCH MUCH smarter then him.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Oh so he was using his superspeed then in combination with strikes,preasure points and holds?
He was using his superior speed to avoid the lasso (as you so proudly pointed out) and to continue to stay on top of her. And I don't think she would have been too worried about his MA skills.
Originally posted by Enyalus
It doesn't contradict anything if there are no feats to contradict. Diana doesn't move the shit that Supes does. Doesn't mean she can't. And there's your evidence that her punches are at least on Superman's level. And they wouldn't be if Supes was 10 times her strength.There's your evidence. The end.
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Not since it is a well known fact superman holds back when fighting... I doubt we will ever truly know just how hard superman hits.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And that has exactly what to do with what I was trying to convey. When thier strength meets. It's fairly obvious that he isn't ten times or even two times her strength. Unless you think supergirl is only a quarter as strong. Becuz Wondy has pwned her twice already.
When there strength meets....that wasnt even a fight for crying out loud.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
He was using his superior speed to avoid the lasso (as you so proudly pointed out) and to continue to stay on top of her. And I don't think she would have been too worried about his MA skills.
So he used his super speed in combination with immense striking power the whole fight, oh and she should worry about his MA since she doesnt seem even use superspeed when she fights.
Originally posted by fangirl101
So then is Superman Ten times stronger than Supergirl? becuz Wonder Woman is Clearly Superior To supergirl. So then He must be 20 times Stronger than Supergirl huh? How does someone who's ten times weaker than you put up any kind of fight? Hell, You only have to be 15 percent stronger than someone in order to completely pwn them.
That is retarded on so many levels... So if I can lift 200lbs and another guy can lift 230, he will pwn me in a fight huh? lulz.
Originally posted by snyper1982
That is retarded on so many levels... So if I can lift 200lbs and another guy can lift 230, he will pwn me in a fight huh? lulz.
Now keep going up in numbers and see how far the gap gets.
Superman lifts 100 billion tons. she lifts 85 billion. 15 billion tons would make a whole lot of difference in striking power.