Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.
Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
I'd like to point out an earlier post in this thread to compliment Voyeur's rather scathing reply in regards to feats for Dr Manhattan.
Originally posted by Irix
Dr. Manhattan is the obvious winner here. Superman could never win, regardless if all Dr. Manhattan can do is watch his future and not change it.First, Dr. Manhattan can control the molecular structure of anything. He creates polished and structured glass from dirt (Ch 4, pg 26), He creates an aura of breathable air on mars (Ch 9, pg 3), he spontaneously creates water (Ch 9, pg 10) and later milk (Ch 9, pg 13). From that, we can see he has a godlike control over matter.
Second, Dr. Manhattan has the ability to "Teleport" over extreme distances when he travels from New York to the Gila flats in Arizona (Ch 3, pg 19), then from the Gila flats to the surface of Mars (Ch 3, pg 21).
Third, Dr. Manhattan has the ability to alter his size (Ch 1, pg 20) and replicate himself (Ch 3, pg 4).
Fourth, Dr. Manhattan has the ability to become intangible (Ch 3, pg 5) and (Ch 12, pg 26).
Fifth, Dr. Manhattan can literally make people explode (Ch 12, pg 24)
Sixth, Dr. Manhattan can defy the laws of physics, specifically gravity (Ch 9, pg 9-22) and (Ch 12, pg 26), and can walk on the surface of the sun (Ch 12, pg 18).
And finally, Dr. Manhattan leaves the galaxy, part of his "Teleporting extreme distances, with the prospect of creating life (and in all likelihood, succeeds) (Ch 12, pg 27)
Super man is fast, "faster than a speeding bullet," which, lets assume, is faster than the speed of sound (767 Mph).
He's strong, extremely so.
He can fly (through space as well), has laser eyes, super hearing and ice breath.
(Note, because of the amount of time superman has been around and the vast amount of changes to his abilities in that time, I am only summing up his abilities and not going to list references.)All in all, Dr. Manhattan has a significant and distinct advantage over Superman.
Any and all vs. threads concerning Dr. Manhattan should be considered spite in Doc's favor. Really...
Originally posted by Voyeur
Feats?Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. In with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful.
I agree with you nearly 100%. I don't think the Dr. can explode Superman but even so, this along with whether he can also teleport him is moot as you will see. This fight depends on the rules of the forum. Meaning, would destroying someone be considered a ko even though they would eventually come to?
Assuming this is the case then Superman might be able to win against Dr. Manhattan if the Dr. starts in solid form and Superman fast enough to destroy him before he acts.
Otherwise, Superman can't win.
Originally posted by Voyeur😂
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
Originally posted by Voyeurnailed it. bravo.
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
Originally posted by Voyeur
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.
Originally posted by Voyeur
And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
Dr. Manhattan cannot be knocked out, this is evidenced by the fact that even blowing him up using his own power doesn't knock him out. If superman gets blown up can he reform himself instantly? And why assume superman can even touch Dr. Manhattan? He can be everywhere at once and already knows exactly whats going to happen.
Originally posted by h1a8
I agree with you nearly 100%. I don't think the Dr. can explode Superman but even so, this along with whether he can also teleport him is moot as you will see. This fight depends on the rules of the forum. Meaning, would destroying someone be considered a ko even though they would eventually come to?Assuming this is the case then Superman might be able to win against Dr. Manhattan if the Dr. starts in solid form and Superman fast enough to destroy him before he acts.
Otherwise, Superman can't win.
I'd like to point out that in Ch 12, Pg 18 of the Watchmen graphic novel, Dr. Manhattan states, "I've walked across the sun. i've seen events so tiny and so fast they hardly can be said to have occurred at all."
so, assuming from that statement, Dr. Manhattan can mentally process the surrounding events so fast that superman wouldn't be able to even think of moving before Manhattan could kill him.
Originally posted by Voyeur^
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
Originally posted by Voyeur
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
Ridiculous. Honestly, no one from any other company could defeat him? Just naming other Moore characters that could, off-hand: Miracleman, the Warpsmiths, God-Swamp Thing, Promothea, Jim Jaspers, the Fury, Mogo, Johnny Beyond, the N-Men, Mystery Incorporated, Horus the Lord of Light, Supreme, Tom Strange, and Tom Strong with Prep.
Seriously, what an absurd thing to say: " And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him."
Just as a side note, not exactly pertaining to this fight, Watchmen isn't even Alan Moore's best work, much less the greatest masterpiece of the comics world, or whatever.
Originally posted by Voyeur
Feats? which isn't what it is about. It's a story, a work of art.Watchmen is a masterpiece of a graphic novel. And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him.
He's life. He has no organs, he doesn't need to breathe or eat, or drink, he can make multiple amounts of himself. He already knows the outcome of everything that is involving him to come. SuperMan wouldn't even be able to physically touch him. He becomes intangible, invulnerable, and is immortal.
he'll never age, he can't be killed, he can't be destroyed, or defeated. He'll just regenerate. Are all of you that brain dead that you really think that Super Man or anyone would stand a chance against some one that essentially is life? He is Life & Death, at it's most microscopic, sub atomic, essence of it. At the seams of what the universe exists on, he is it. Dr. Manhattan being defeated by Superman? gtfo.
He'll just *point* and blow superman apart, there are plenty of feats and scans from the novel of that. He can phase and become untouchable. I won't even continue to quote or point out actual acts of feats and things from the Graphic Novel but I highly advise you all read up on it and just learn about Dr. Manhattan for yourself.
He says at the end how he'll even go off to create humans. I mean, God? Yes, and not only in title, that literally is having the power of God.
-.- honestly...the mentality level on here some times
What ever you guys think of Dr. Manhattan, is most likely incorrect. And with PIS, he's over powered. And that is with restricting his abilities to make the story seem more suspensful. Dr. Manhattan is a symbolic representation of something greater. Don't cheapen him by asking for feats or such. But in all honesty, I don't see him loosing to the majority of anyone. Taking into consideration his kind of character, he'd probably not even fight and find it useless, knowing the outcome.
Ridiculous. Honestly, no one from any other company could defeat him? Just naming other Moore characters that could, off-hand: Miracleman, the Warpsmiths, God-Swamp Thing, Promothea, Jim Jaspers, the Fury, Mogo, Johnny Beyond, the N-Men, Mystery Incorporated, Horus the Lord of Light, Supreme, Tom Strange, and Tom Strong with Prep.
Seriously, what an absurd thing to say: " And it's evident almost the majority of you haven't even read it if you think that anyone in the entire DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, (etc.) comic universe can defeat him."
Just as a side note, not exactly pertaining to this fight, Watchmen isn't even Alan Moore's best work, much less the greatest masterpiece of the comics world, or whatever.