3 Jedis vs 3 Siths

Started by Gideon4 pages
Originally posted by Enyalus
I thought psychology wasn't a factor in vs. fights? 😛 Make up your mind. It's either Pre Suited Vader at his peak, or a repeat of Mustafar.

We're not discussing arrogance or a singular mistake, Enyalus. His state of mind was that he clearly lost any semblance of rationality, "trapped between worlds then" and "vulnerable" according to Darth Sidious. Moreover, keep in mind that my statement was thus:

"If Vader fights like the moron he is against Obi-Wan, he'll lose there too."

Originally posted by Gideon
We're not discussing arrogance or a singular mistake, Enyalus. His state of mind was that he clearly lost any semblance of rationality, "trapped between worlds then" and "vulnerable" according to Darth Sidious. Moreover, keep in mind that my statement was thus:

"If Vader fights like the moron he is against Obi-Wan, he'll lose there too."

Yes, and my contention was that this is presumably peak versions of each specified character. In the novelization it said that when Padme touched down on Mustafar he had to summon up his "Anakin" persona. Which is probably why he is "half Jedi and half Sith" during his battle with Obi-Wan there. Clearly it wasn't his best.

I'd think Vader beats Obi-Wan every time in the Force or Sabers when operating at his peak.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Pre Suited Vader was curling massive temple statues like missiles and Force Crushing durasteel blast doors. He definitely takes out Obi-Wan in a Force contest and is at least the equal of Mace there.

Wait are you talkin ROTS video game, remember non canon, if we want to use that then lol Anakin will molest Mace Windu in a straight up duel.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Wait are you talkin ROTS video game, remember non canon, if we want to use that then lol Anakin will molest Mace Windu in a straight up duel.

The feats in it are canon.

Ah, so Anakin did pwn Mace who was by the end of the duel out of breath and Anakin not even a drop of sweat so according to that game Anakin>>Mace

Originally posted by Enyalus
The feats in it are canon.

Just like the ones in TFU. 🙂

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Just like the ones in TFU. 🙂

Except the developers of the ROTS game never specifically stated that the "powers in The Force Unleashed are exaggerated to give gamers a more thrilling experience."

The comic, novelization, cutscenes, and databank all make note of these feats and how they are done.

They're canon. Accept it and move on.

Star Wars is like a mountain range when it comes to consistency with the force, one moment you may be roaring crazy high in uber destructive power, the next you will be in a deep ravine of mediocrity.

The ROTS Video game is simply non canon. Dooku gets stabbed rather than decapitated, Grievous has a duel with Kenobi after the chase on the bike, Mace Windu gets destroyed by Anakin who doesn't so much break a sweat, Cin Drallig duels Anakin in a different fashion then he does in the movies, Nute Gunray gets killed in a shuttle rather than slashed across the chest. The Separatists are aware of Darth Vader's true purpose before he enters the Separatist Council's room. All the Jedi knights in the temple are Zabraks. The game contradicts multiple sources of Canon, and cannot possibly be seriously used in debates

It is not non-canon. Merely the feats that are contradicted by a higher source. The official script has Yoda disarming Sidious and beating the **** out of him. The movie doesn't show either. So is the whole thing non-canon? No.

Originally posted by Gideon
The comic, novelization, cutscenes, and databank all make note of these feats and how they are done.

They're canon. Accept it and move on.

I do. I never said they weren't.

Originally posted by Gideon
It is not non-canon. Merely the feats that are contradicted by a higher source. The official script has Yoda disarming Sidious and beating the **** out of him. The movie doesn't show either. So is the whole thing non-canon? No.

It contradicts the Movie on not minor instances but several major instances. Does the script specifically contradict the movie on any scale like Skywalker>>>>Mace. The ROTS Video game is an awful source for information, a fun game but quite the load of BS

It doesn't matter. Only the parts that directly contradict the movie are non-canon. The rest aren't.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
a fun game but quite the load of BS

Not even that. The game sucks. 6 strikes with a lightsaber to kill a droid? 30+ to kill Dooku? Ugh. I hate that kinda shit. Give me JA any day.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Not even that. The game sucks. 6 strikes with a lightsaber to kill a droid? 30+ to kill Dooku? Ugh. I hate that kinda shit. Give me JA any day.

Agreed, it is only fun with cheats lol

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Agreed, it is only fun with cheats lol

Turning Supersabers on while fighting Grievous is scary...

wait a minute.... Jedi Power battles. Remember this game? How canon is it? Did Obi-wan and Qui-Gonn really fight a giant droid creature onboard the seperatist ship at the beginning, JUST BECAUSE a movie or book doesn't specifically say they didn't? ditto for a lot of levels on that one.... Did they actually fight their way through hoardes of gungans? cause i would think that would cause a bit of a problem later on... but i don't have a source that specifically says they DIDN'T kill a bunch of gungans...

Originally posted by truejedi
wait a minute.... Jedi Power battles. Remember this game? How canon is it? Did Obi-wan and Qui-Gonn really fight a giant droid creature onboard the seperatist ship at the beginning, JUST BECAUSE a movie or book doesn't specifically say they didn't? ditto for a lot of levels on that one.... Did they actually fight their way through hoardes of gungans? cause i would think that would cause a bit of a problem later on... but i don't have a source that specifically says they DIDN'T kill a bunch of gungans...

Was that on Dreamcast? I loved the one for Sega. Plo Koon Rules!

Dreamcast = Best System Ever.