3 Jedis vs 3 Siths

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it was, i played it on playstation though. I had a dreamcast for awhile, then ended up trading it for a SNES, because i missed playing SNES donkey Kong..... kinda pathetic i know.

Originally posted by truejedi
it was, i played it on playstation though. I had a dreamcast for awhile, then ended up trading it for a SNES, because i missed playing SNES donkey Kong..... kinda pathetic i know.

No more pathetic than what we do here, really.

I liked how the one Jedi had a red lightsaber, and my friend was all like: NO WAY SHES A SITH and I was like: WAY-COLOR COMES FROM CRYSTALS and he was like: WOAH HOW DO U KNOW and I was like: I'M A SW NERD WHAT DO U XPECT?

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Originally posted by truejedi
wait a minute.... Jedi Power battles. Remember this game? How canon is it? Did Obi-wan and Qui-Gonn really fight a giant droid creature onboard the seperatist ship at the beginning, JUST BECAUSE a movie or book doesn't specifically say they didn't? ditto for a lot of levels on that one.... Did they actually fight their way through hoardes of gungans? cause i would think that would cause a bit of a problem later on... but i don't have a source that specifically says they DIDN'T kill a bunch of gungans...

Well, actually it didnt have to be Obi Wan and Qui Gon, it could have been Plo Koon or Mace Windu, or the other jedi you could be.

The Sith will win in a close fight.

Why the unsubstantiated opinion resulting in a bump? Did you think more needed to be said?

The sith wouldn't win this fight. Yoda>=Sidious Mace>=Dooku And Obi-Wan is > Anakin. how do the sith pull this off? Even this way: Mace>=Sidious,(combat) Yoda>Dooku and Obi-wan >Anakin

why the heck is the vote 6-2 sith?

At least the sith would win in the force fight...

sith always win force fights. its why jedi attack with their lightsabers. They don't use the force to kill. Force fights are rigged in our analysis because of this.

If Sidious brings his Force powers to bear against Windu, he'll win. Obi-Wan is screwed in an all out fight; either Dooku or Sidious can dispose of him handily. And then it comes down to Yoda versus Sidious and Dooku, which ends in a curbstomp for the Sith duo.

But Yoda would beat Maul in a force fight.😄
And I agree that the sith would win in the all out fight too.

it would have to go down that way though. I mean, why would yoda sit back and let mace get toasted? I'm not so sure that ROTS sidious can just eliminate Mace with the force. If worse came to worse on the window sill, all mace had to do was step back. Thus the pressure would be that much less. (all the force from teh lightning would be from an electromagnetic field, correct? so stepping back and changing the distance would lower that force dramatically. The reason sidious had mace with his saber almost to his face was because mace wouldn't back down. Mace could at least live until Yoda won his battle with Dooku, which honestly, considering dooku can't run away in this one, shouldn't be too awful long.

I'm not sure it would go down like that anyway,
Seems like Yoda would attack Sidious first. Anakin can't dispose of obi-wan in a force fight, and Dooku probably isn't a match for mace.

If obiwan got toasted by sidious or dooku quickly, the sith will win. But again, this fight can goes either way and I think the sith will win 6/10.

Originally posted by truejedi
it would have to go down that way though. I mean, why would yoda sit back and let mace get toasted? I'm not so sure that ROTS sidious can just eliminate Mace with the force. If worse came to worse on the window sill, all mace had to do was step back. Thus the pressure would be that much less. (all the force from teh lightning would be from an electromagnetic field, correct? so stepping back and changing the distance would lower that force dramatically. The reason sidious had mace with his saber almost to his face was because mace wouldn't back down. Mace could at least live until Yoda won his battle with Dooku, which honestly, considering dooku can't run away in this one, shouldn't be too awful long.

I'm not sure it would go down like that anyway,
Seems like Yoda would attack Sidious first. Anakin can't dispose of obi-wan in a force fight, and [B]Dooku probably isn't a match for mace.
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No thats why it is such a close match
I say 5/5 equally tied, as soon as Dooku or Sids KO's Kenobi, Mace or Yoda can do the same to Anakin. If Obi-Wan fights Anakin, Mace fights Sidious, and Yoda fights Dooku. If Obi-Wan or Yoda can pull a victory before Sidious breaks Mace's defenses the Jedi win, but if Sidious wins before Yoda or Obi-Wan can bring a victory, the Sith will win. OR if Yoda takes Sidious, and Dooku takes Mace, it is possible for them to stalemate each other, actually enviornment is key here. Because if it is in the Grand Convocation room then the Sith will win, Mace cannot compete with Dooku's mastery of force grip. And Sidious and Yoda will stalemate. But, if it is in the Genosian hangar and it is close range I'd wager Yoda's victory over Sidious, possibly Mace's victory over Dooku, but the two are damned close. Obi-Wan will lose to Anakin. Then its Mace and Yoda vs. Dooku and Anakin. Jedi win

why couldn't mace block Dooku's grip? it doesn't seem all that superior. The only person he ever grips with it is kenobi, who is hardly the poster boy for leading force attack defender.

This is part of the issue that manifested itself in the DE Sidious versus Yoda, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Mace thread.

Mace could at least live until Yoda won his battle with Dooku, which honestly, considering dooku can't run away in this one, shouldn't be too awful long.

Absolutely not. There is, in fact, no reason to support this theory. Your contention is that Mace Windu could somehow survive Darth Sidious's superior command of the Force by "backing up," which is ridiculous, and then you cite that Windu "couldn't have backed up" during their fight in his office in Revenge of the Sith. Why couldn't he have? He wasn't pressed against the wall -- that was Sidious.

I'm not so sure that ROTS sidious can just eliminate Mace with the force.

Mace Windu muses in Shatterpoint that his mastery of the Force is next to nothing when compared to Yoda and that his raw power is nothing compared to Anakin Skywalker. He also muses inferiority when compared to Kar Vastor, who is considered by Nick Rostu (and then confirmed by the narrator), to be considerably weaker than a suited Darth Vader.

Like it or not, Windu does not compare, at all, to Sidious in Force mastery. I'm curious how you think that Dooku, who is more powerful than Mace (while not being necessarily the greater swordsmen) will somehow go down to Yoda before Mace would go down to Sidious.

if mace was attacked with lightning, gideon, physics tells you, that the force that almost overwhelmed him in ROTS would be reduced by a factor of the nth root (i can look up the formula if you want, tho tonight, i've got a wedding to get to) for every distance n that mace backed up. Its how electromagnetic fields work. And an electromagnetic field is the only thing that would be causing Mace's lightsaber to be pushed back towards him as recorded in the ROTS novelization. Electrity simply doesn't push things. Electromagnetic fields do. I'm not taking it back.

oh, and to your final point. Windu and sidious already fought. It wasn't a short duel, and Sidious didn't eliminate Mace with the force. (at all, beginning, middle or end) why would it be such a short duel this time? that makes no sense.

oh, and i already said mace didn't back-up because he was tryign to keep sidious in length of his saber. That's why he closed the gap so quickly after sidious initially loses HIS saber.

Originally posted by truejedi
if mace was attacked with lightning, gideon, physics tells you, that the force that almost overwhelmed him in ROTS would be reduced by a factor of the nth root (i can look up the formula if you want, tho tonight, i've got a wedding to get to) for every distance n that mace backed up. Its how electromagnetic fields work. And an electromagnetic field is the only thing that would be causing Mace's lightsaber to be pushed back towards him as recorded in the ROTS novelization. Electrity simply doesn't push things. Electromagnetic fields do. I'm not taking it back.

You don't have to take it back. Your contention is that "LOLZ SIDIOUS CANT KILL WINDU BECAUSE WINDU CAN BACK UP AND THAT IS WHAT PHYSICS SAY HAHAHA!" which is entirely flimsy.

Like it or not, Palpatine is more powerful, and by a considerable margin. Deal with it.

i have never said mace is superior to sidious, and you know this, and its ridiculous to act like i don't. My point is: Mace would NOT be limited to using only the force if attacked through the force by Sidious. if, in a 1 on 1 duel, why should it go ANY differently than the duel we already see in ROTS. Thats what isn't making sense to me. Its been fought. If sidious could kill mace with the force, in the middle of a saber duel, my contention he would have done so.
Why do you think he was so merciful to mace if mace could be removed quickly at any time with a force attack?

Why didn't Obi-Wan crush General Grievous with the Force rather than nearly die in melee combat? Why didn't Count Dooku WTFpwn Anakin Skywalker along with Obi-Wan? Why didn't Darth Vader use the Force to destroy Obi-Wan aboard the first Death Star?

Just because they didn't doesn't mean that they couldn't.