Originally posted by quanchi112
The source had to send an agent out there killing off the new gods. The ig could hav edone this from Thanos' bedroom with a simple snap.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The source had to send an agent out there killing off the new gods. The ig could hav edone this from Thanos' bedroom with a simple snap.
Originally posted by fangirl101
It was a story. You are an ......... Seriously. The story was for an element of mystery. Geez. ......., (*&E%(*&^)$%$%*&#$#(*&#$(*&., I mean really.
Originally posted by kevdude
Why is this still open and fanboys still thinking the Heart wins? Thanos was controlled even after he had the Heart that is clear, and no just because Thanos thinks and Eternity thinks hes TOAA doesn't mean so, read the scans hes still being controlled. Also The Source > The Heart as well..
Originally posted by vansonbee
😛 Seem now your putting story line into account, when something could of been achieve with ease is ultimate power.
We could say DC hasn't shown to the readers that the Presence with thought can destroy its own universe, or reality like IG.So your saying Eternity recognize Thanos as TOAA? Eternity recognize Thanos as the being who stolen God power, not TOAA.
THOTI = Presence
If he stole TOAA's power it wouldn't have been planned like TOAA planned it and Thanos was allowed to have the power, a little higher version of Micheal and Michael already became 1 with everything while he joined with The Voice.
Originally posted by kevdudeMicheal and Michael from Vertigo? or DCU
If he stole TOAA's power it wouldn't have been planned like TOAA planned it and Thanos was allowed to have the power, a little higher version of Micheal and Michael already became 1 with everything while he joined with The Voice.
Yes TOAA did plan Thanos to steal it, so Thanos can recreate the MU and improve its flaw, TOAA as creator/charcter can not understand the comic flaws of balance.
Thanos being the be all end all of what a comic character can achieve in terms of power is hilarious to be honest. Even if a person belives that he has destroyed and recreated everything, which I have argued against in the past and don't agree with, he still doesn't have anything on Michael for example.
A few 'I am God/I posess ultimate power' lines don't really hold, especially considering the limitations he showed during the story, both power & knowledge related. I don't really care about lines such as 'it's a story, he had to show limits' or anything like that either, so if anybody wants to use it forget about it. Point is, and nobody can dispute it, he hasn't shown true Omnipotence/Omniscience.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerYes. It has nothing to do with the real world GOD.
The Presence is just a comic book depiction of that GOD
and shares the same principle and scope of power.
Btw. way ta go on the complete twist of my post.
I was referring to this, and you know I was referring to this:
Originally posted by occultdestroyerTrue, avatars were used in DC comics.
But it only represents the writer/s, men limited by their imagination.
Whilst The Presence represents the true GOD,
a comic depiction of the Judeo-Christian GOD whom Christians worship.This GOD is omnipotent, and exists in and out of the boundaries of the comic world.
Anyone can see in the link below that's really your post, again,
you better be thorough if you're gonna step to me with fallacious accusations.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494826&pagenumber=4
You'll get a hand clap for that effort though ... clap3
Originally posted by occultdestroyerThe Presence ... real world GOD ...
... shares the same principle and scope of power.
That just sounds silly, sorry.
The Presence, or any other character from DC or Marvel,
is only as powerful as the writer makes em out to be, period.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerSo now you're comparing Marvel's Lucifer to DC's Lucifer Morningstar,
going as far as claiming that Marvel's Lucifer is equivalent to DC's Lucifer? lolLIES.
Lucifer, the will of God (The Presence) is far greater than someone as insignificant as this.
How dare you compare such a puny character to high abstract-level character!This Lucifer is just out of DC Lucifer's league. WAAYYY far out.
Look at you trying to come out gunz blazin, HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
You picked "the wrong nigga to @&#$ wit"
I challenge you to point out where I ever said any of that:
Originally posted by Mr Master*note* Marvel's also has Yahweh/Michael/Lucifer and the all of those Heavenly cats:
Here's a look at how technical Marvel's got concerning God/Yahweh and company:
(I see they're far more accurate portraying the original story than Vertigo or DC)
Here's our (Marvel's) Lucifer Morningstar bio excerpt:
They would all get curbstomped by Eternity, or Kubik, or others.
(Anyone can see in the link below you're getting caught red handed here)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494735&pagenumber=25
Deceptive tricks to get a few cheers doesn't work on me,
you better be thorough when trying to accuse me of lying duke.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerThe Presence = TOAA
See, easy.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerThe Presence creates beings similar to the IB, THOTI, or AE
such as Ion, Takion, and The Source.
Again, see, easy.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea uhm, don't tell me that like it wasn't I who was telling you.Btw. way ta go on the complete twist of my post.
I was referring to this, and you know I was referring to this:
Seriously, nice try.
Anyone can see in the link below that's really your post, again,
you better be thorough if you're gonna step to me with fallacious accusations.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494826&pagenumber=4
You'll get a hand clap for that effort though ... clap3
And again,
how is it that you believe that you or DC writers or anyone knows GOD's scope & power?That just sounds silly, sorry.
The Presence, or any other character from DC or Marvel,
is only as powerful as the writer makes em out to be, period.durlaugh
Look at you trying to come out gunz blazin, HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
You picked "the wrong nigga to @&#$ wit"
I challenge you to point out where I ever said any of that:
Other than stating the fact that Marvel's portrayal of this real world idea is more accurate,
I didn't mention anything about these characters being the ones from DC,
I clearly wrote MARVEL!(Anyone can see in the link below you're getting caught red handed here)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=494735&pagenumber=25
Deceptive tricks to get a few cheers doesn't work on me,
you better be thorough when trying to accuse me of lying duke.TOAA > The Presence.
See, easy.
TOAA creates beings exactly like the Presence like the IB, THOTI, or the AE.
Again, see, easy.
The presence is the avatar of the writers...what are you trying to do here mastter?
Originally posted by kevdudeThanos was controlled even after he had the Heart that is clear
Originally posted by kevdudeand no just because Thanos thinks and Eternity thinks hes TOAA doesn't mean so
I know, I know,
the fact that THOTI absorbed the LT like an insect doesn't really say much either.
Yea, yea, so what if the LT is second to TOAA,
so what if ONLY what TOAA is is above the LT.
More power to ya Kev,
it also doesn't matter that Thanos' 2008 bio states he became the SUPREME BEING,
and the Eternity's bio states he was proclaimed GOD!
Beyond that,
the fact that Jim Starlin himself said Thanos destroyed the ENTIRE Marvel Universe,
and he basically became GOD!
Still doesn't prove Thanos was TOAA within the Omniverse. 😐
Originally posted by kevduderead the scans hes still being controlled.
Why don't you read the scans, perhaps then you'll get your facts straight friend:
Thanos decided what to do, NOT TOAA.
"Sacrifice or the Void, are my options"
"Sacrifice" (create the Marvel Universe anew)
"or the Void" (leave the Marvel Universe nullified)
It was always Thanos' choice.
Originally posted by kevdudeAlso The Source > The Heart as well..
The Infinity Being = The Presence
The Alien Entity = The Presence
THOTI = The Presence
Genesis = The Presence
Does it make it true?
Perhaps, perhaps not, but just showing you it's easy to add an empty opinion.
The Presence being the be all end all of what a comic character can achieve in terms of power is hilarious to be honest. Even if a person belives that he can destroy and recreate everything, which I have agreed with in the past and agree with, he still doesn't have anything on THOTI/Alien Entity/Genesis/Infinity Being for example.
However any 'I am God/I posess ultimate power' lines don't really matter, especially considering the exact same shit showed during a number of Marvel stories, both power & knowledge related. I don't really care about lines such as it's the Presence, he has to be > whoever because he represents the real world God, lol, or anything like that either, so if anybody wants to use it forget about it. Point is, and nobody can dispute it, he hasn't shown true Omnipotence/Omniscience, uhh, cause I say so. mwahaha
Originally posted by fangirl101The point is the Source is clearly weaker than the ig. I already pointed out the reasons. Dont be mad at me. I get my info from the comics themselves.
It was a story. You are an ......... Seriously. The story was for an element of mystery. Geez. ......., (*&E%(*&^)$%$%*&#$#(*&#$(*&., I mean really.
Ig>Source imo.
Originally posted by kevdudeTOAA controlled him. the writer. On panel he wins based on feats and his ability to absorb creation while the presence makes up all of the dcu.
Why is this still open and fanboys still thinking the Heart wins? Thanos was controlled even after he had the Heart that is clear, and no just because Thanos thinks and Eternity thinks hes TOAA doesn't mean so, read the scans hes still being controlled. Also The Source > The Heart as well..
Originally posted by PhilosophíaPoint is he absorbs the dcu which is the presence. If you have any proof as to how the presence would defend himself please feel free to get back to me.
Thanos being the be all end all of what a comic character can achieve in terms of power is hilarious to be honest. Even if a person belives that he has destroyed and recreated everything, which I have argued against in the past and don't agree with, he still doesn't have anything on Michael for example.A few 'I am God/I posess ultimate power' lines don't really hold, especially considering the limitations he showed during the story, both power & knowledge related. I don't really care about lines such as 'it's a story, he had to show limits' or anything like that either, so if anybody wants to use it forget about it. Point is, and nobody can dispute it, he hasn't shown true Omnipotence/Omniscience.
Originally posted by Mr MasterYep. The presence isnt a writer and it seems some are ignorantly making the presence out to be the dcu staff which he is not imo.
Prove the Presence is an avatar of the writers. 🙂
Originally posted by kgkg
Vertigo was made in 1993 🙂So presence Vertigo or DC(normal) for you?
Originally posted by fangirl101
Vertigo was made up of titles that were under DC at the time and got meshed under the imprint. Swamp thing was one of those titles. The presence is a DC term to me at least. YWH is the God of the Lucifer continuity series.
So those are also Vertigo and where did you get the idea that they are two separate universes?
Presence has been used in vertigo also? also another question since you seem to base what your saying off scans have you read Lucifer from vertigo?
