Originally posted by fangirl101So,a being Gog oneshotted is the most powerful being. Thats it.
Probably Mxy. I"m not sure. I'd have to check. the LT has defeated NO one.
The Lt doesnt go around looking for fights. Thats the point. the Lt is well above Eternity,Galactus,etc. The Spectre is wrath while the Lt is judgment. Lt hourglassed the Protege if I remember correctly a being equal to the lt. Impressive me thinks.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer cannot be defeated though. It isnt a fictional character and thats the point.Heart of infinite wins this thread and easily. Absorption for the win.
HOTU is equal to the Source an aspect of the Presence.
As far as TOAA being real he isn't since he only exists in a fictitious setting read up on the definitions of fiction.
Fiction:
1.
a. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent actuality but has been invented.
3.
a. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
b. The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.
Anything drawn or written in a fictional setting i.e. fictitious interactions between artist avatars and other fictional characters are termed fiction.
So TOAA being Supreme in Marvel has no relevance to DC since the Presence is the Supreme authority there not TOAA, both are nothing but fictional avatars unless you somehow believe that the MU represents actual reality?
Originally posted by fangirl101And yet everything is canon to the LT.
Every What if is canon to him. He exist in every reality at the same time.
That Reed crap is NON-CANNNOOONNNN!!!!
Yea, and What ifs are the comics made for writers to have fun,
not to take seriously.
LT's ultimate judgement is making a Sun go Nova,
but Lt can tear an entire Universe from the Omniverse witha thought.
Korvac is more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts,
yet, needs the UN to destroy his Universe,
and needs Death to help him survive the Sun going Nova
dur ... I mean ... 😆
This is why serious debaters ignore What ifs,
but I don't expect cats with a chip on their shoulder to do the same.
Originally posted by fangirl101And yet we know that there is a vast space of energy between the LT
and TOAA and that it can be reached.
Which means that one does not have to have the one above all's power to defeat the LT.
Originally posted by fangirl101Has the LT defeated a single being on Panel?
GO to the LT's respect thread son.
Originally posted by Mr Master
nawTHOTI made Thanos the Supreme being of Marvel.
Therefore, THOTI = the Presence.
It's as simple as that.
TOAA is the Supreme Authority in MU's fictional universe, he gave Thanos HOTU which allowed him to erase all existence something the Source (merely an aspect of he Presence) is capable of, since it controls all existence in the DCU.
Originally posted by Mr Master
For the last time.That Reed crap is NON-CANNNOOONNNN!!!!
Yea, and What ifs are the comics made for writers to have fun,
not to take seriously.LT's ultimate judgement is making a Sun go Nova,
but Lt can tear an entire Universe from the Omniverse witha thought.Korvac is more powerful than the Multiversal Abstracts,
yet, needs the UN to destroy his Universe,
and needs Death to help him survive the Sun going Novadur ... I mean ... 😆
This is why serious debaters ignore What ifs,
but I don't expect cats with a chip on their shoulder to do the same.Enlighten us and tells us who in current Marvel has ever challeneged the LT,
besides TOAA's power that Thanos had?Is this a joke? .. or a trick question?
GO to the LT's respect thread son.
The LT states that his most powerful attack was the sun going nova. He could not outright destroy korvak. it's on panel. deal with it.
We do know that there are levels of energy that are achieveable between the LT"S and TOAA. Protoge Does it. The Preretconned MM and PR Beyonder Achieve them. And THANOS THOTU achieve them. All are less powerful than TOAA but above the LT according to you. So by your own logic, there is much space between the LT and TOAA. He's easily beatable by any being who supercedes his limited might.
The LT has defeated what being?s? None that I can remember.
Originally posted by Mr Master
nawTHOTI made Thanos the Supreme being of Marvel.
Therefore, THOTI = the Presence.
It's as simple as that.
Originally posted by AllanklesTOAA is the Supreme Authority in MU's fictional universe, he gave Thanos HOTU which allowed him to erase all existence something the Source (merely an aspect of he Presence) is capable of, since it controls all existence in the DCU.
There's sevaral Marvel cats that have erased all existence, and created it again, big deal,
Thanos' big feat was erasing the LT like a mote in a storm,
the LT, who holds the power of two Megaverses in one hand,
and spins the Alpha & Omega in the other.
In Marvel comics,
THOTI made Thanos the Supreme being.
Period.
I have tons of proof,
but we've all seen it so there's no point in regurgitating it.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Don't apply crappy marvel bullshit the writer is this and that to DC. leave that crap at marvel.
I don't know why they keep applying that crap to the DCverse like it's a rule for fictional universes to have their supreme beings break the fourth wall, its all fiction nothing in these fictional universes is remotely real.
Originally posted by AllanklesThey get on my nerves. Comic book lames. TOAA is a character. They are worse than trekkies who go out and learn klingon. the shit is not real. TOAA is not real.
I don't know why they keep applying that crap to the DCverse like it's a rule for fictional universes to have their supreme beings break the fourth wall, its all fiction nothing in these fictional universes is remotely real.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't care what the Source or anyone else in DC is.Thanos' big feat was erasing the LT like a mote in a storm,
the LT, who holds the power of two Megaverses in one hand,
and spins the Alpha & Omega in the other.In Marvel comics,
THOTI made Thanos the Supreme being.Period.
I have tons of proof,
but we've all seen it so there's no point in regurgitating it.
You don't care what the Source is but that's exactly what the Source is capable of the fundamental experession of universal energy in the DCU quite capable of erasing and recreating existence (and all the beings within it). All that and the Source is merely an aspect of the Presence.
Originally posted by fangirl101
They get on my nerves. Comic book lames. TOAA is a character. They are worse than trekkies who go out and learn klingon. the shit is not real. TOAA is not real.
Why the hell would you think some drawing that only exists in one fictional realm is real? Every character from a certain point of view is a fictional avatar of the writer/artist, from Shuster's Superman to Englehart's TOAA.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It is not. Please stop this nonsense.Fangirl, I ask you again. When in that book does the LT ever directly attack Korvac?
The Source can do exactly what HOTU did, so there's nothing to get argumentative over. Read up on the Source it controls existence and can recreate and destroy existence and every being within it, and it is an aspect of the Presence.
As far TOAA goes he is equal to the Presence and if you don't want to believe me about that he is classified as a fictional character within the Marvel U. A little research and you'll discover all this.
Originally posted by AllanklesYou don't care what the Source is but that's exactly what the Source is capable of the fundamental experession of universal energy in the DCU quite capable of erasing and recreating existence (and all the beings within it). All that and the Source is merely an aspect of the Presence.
Same as Eternity/Infinity.
Big whoop.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice, and?Same as Eternity/Infinity.
Big whoop.
Originally posted by Allankles
The Source can do exactly what HOTU did, so there's nothing to get argumentative over. Read up on the Source it controls existence and can recreate and destroy existence and every being within it, and it is an aspect of the Presence.
The heart isn't an aspect of TOAA. It's TOAA's power within the marvelverse. The Source is neither the Presence nor Supreme.
Heart>Source by a comfortable margin.
As far TOAA goes he is equal to the Presence and if you don't want to believe me about that he is classified as a fictional character within the Marvel U. A little research and you'll discover all this.
I was never arguing the fictional character thing. I was questioning the Presence's supremacy.