Originally posted by Csdabest
Considering Sasuke basically took down the 8-tails with it burning it into submission leaving it to have to make a desperation move to escape. I dont see the brolem. And Chidori Eisou already cut through the a bijuu. So there no reason why it cant slice through Gambunta.
Cool, it can slice through Gamabunta, but he won't be able to touch 9 tails.
Originally posted by Csdabest
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39196[Eye power]
The main reason why the "Sharingan" was feared by everyone, including the inhabitants of the village, is the power hidden in those eyes, able to subdue even "bijuu". Sasuke, who is rapidly mastering his skills as an Uchiha, is also gradually awakening to that cursed power.(balloons: "Those eyes... How did you dare... control me... with those eyes...!"😉
The ultimate power of the "Sharingan", that once could tame even the "Kyuubi". A portion of it is visible in Sasuke when he is able to control Manda.(balloons: "Now I can see it... So this was your mysterious power...."😉
Sasuke's eye power is even able to seize the Kyuubi that dwells in Naruto's body!! Looking at that ominous strength, the Kyuubi is reminded of Madara Uchiha...Sasuke Hijacked Manda. Controlled him against manda wills and manda gave his testimony to confirm. So yes...Sasuke can indeed Hijack Summonings
i accept the jiraya genjutsu statement when I see some proof that it is hard to put Jiraya in genjutsu or that he isnt suceptible to genjutsu. Because jiraya tier 3 genjutsu says other wise. Sasuke has tier 4 and thats not boosted by Sharingan capabilities. so there is zero reason why jiraya wont get caught in genjutsu. He even admits its in manga that he sucks at genjutsu.
HE admits that he performing genjutsu is not his thing, Escaping from it or dispelling it is something any competent ninja should be able to do let alone a legendary sanin. If he gets caught in it he can break out, and he probably wont get caught in it anyways.
Originally posted by Wil7
Cool, it can slice through Gamabunta, but he won't be able to touch 9 tails.
Sasuke can supress 9-tails chakra. So there wont be no 9-tails to deal with. And Sasuke already peirced through the 9-tails cloak with chidori.
Sasuke has an Paralisis MS Genjutsu. He looks in your eyes and your stuck in it. It will take Jiraya sometime to ghet out of it. Thing is. With this MS genjutsu. The user can still move around. Jiraya paralized even for a second with someone at Sasuke speed equals death.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Sasuke can supress 9-tails chakra. So there wont be no 9-tails to deal with. And Sasuke already peirced through the 9-tails cloak with chidori.Sasuke has an Paralisis MS Genjutsu. He looks in your eyes and your stuck in it. It will take Jiraya sometime to ghet out of it. Thing is. With this MS genjutsu. The user can still move around. Jiraya paralized even for a second with someone at Sasuke speed equals death.
He never cut through the cloak of the nine tailed fox. If he did, prove it, because I don't remember that ever happening.
Naruto has already been taught not to look into the eyes of a sharingan user, and if he got stuch in it, he would just do what Sasuke did to get out of the paralisis jutsu, stab his leg with a kunai knife. Yeah, Sasuke will get Jiraiya stuck in his genjutsu, 😂. There is know way Sasuke will beat Jiraiya, are you crazy? Jiraiya turns to sage mode, and uses great ball rasengan. Sasuke could have died to Deidara, and Jiraiya went t2t with Pein, which is a better feat than going t2t with Deidara.
Originally posted by Wil7
He never cut through the cloak of the nine tailed fox. If he did, prove it, because I don't remember that ever happening.Naruto has already been taught not to look into the eyes of a sharingan user, and if he got stuch in it, he would just do what Sasuke did to get out of the paralisis jutsu, stab his leg with a kunai knife. Yeah, Sasuke will get Jiraiya stuck in his genjutsu, 😂. There is know way Sasuke will beat Jiraiya, are you crazy? Jiraiya turns to sage mode, and uses great ball rasengan. Sasuke could have died to Deidara, and Jiraiya went t2t with Pein, which is a better feat than going t2t with Deidara.
VOTE FIGHT Rasengan vs Chidori. It went through and damaged Naruto enough for Sasuke to win the fight
Really now. Naruto has been taught not to look into the Sharingan eye. Why that matters whenn Sasuke can look into his eyes and lock him into a genjutsu. That and Naruto didnt need to look into Sasuke eyes at Oro's hideout he supressed the chakra. That paralisis jutsus sasuke got out of was absed on fear and is no where enar the level of a sharingtan genjutsu or the MS version.
Keep being biased. Jiraya goes for a rasengan and Sasuke shunshins away. Speed Sasuke>>>Jiraya when ti comes to feats. And dont use the Deidera as an excuse. Jiraya would of gotten raped in that situation. And if Tobi wasnt there Dei would have gotten raped in a matter of seconds.
Please dont try to put your ABC logic. Technically there is possibility that Dei can destroy Pain. With the right set up.
If Jiraya gets locked in the paralisis MS genjutsu he is in trouble. Cuz the second its lock in. Sasuke shunshins and can lop Jiraya head off. Jiraya cant keep up and react to shunshin and especially not sasuke shunshin much less keep up with it. And if they can not for long. You need to realize that that this generation is catching up to Jiraya. And Sasuke is already up there stat wise.
Originally posted by CsdabestTo bad that cloak isn't anything like the 4-tail cloak that is like an armor around Naruto.
VOTE FIGHT Rasengan vs Chidori. It went through and damaged Naruto enough for Sasuke to win the fightReally now. Naruto has been taught not to look into the Sharingan eye. Why that matters whenn Sasuke can look into his eyes and lock him into a genjutsu. Thatand Naruto didnt need to look into Sasuke eyes at Oro's hideout he supressed the chakra. That paralisis jutsus sasuke got out of was absed on fear and is no where enar the level of a sharingtan genjutsu or the MS version.
Keep being biased. Jiraya goes for a rasengan and Sasuke shunshins away.
Also..Sasuke supressed something Naruto was already supressing. That's not that great of a feat for Sasuke to come in and do what Naruto was already doing.
Originally posted by Kento
To bad that cloak isn't anything like the 4-tail cloak that is like an armor around Naruto.Also..Sasuke supressed something Naruto was already supressing. That's not that great of a feat for Sasuke to come in and do what Naruto was already doing.
Originally posted by Csdabest
VOTE FIGHT Rasengan vs Chidori. It went through and damaged Naruto enough for Sasuke to win the fightReally now. Naruto has been taught not to look into the Sharingan eye. Why that matters whenn Sasuke can look into his eyes and lock him into a genjutsu. Thatand Naruto didnt need to look into Sasuke eyes at Oro's hideout he supressed the chakra. That paralisis jutsus sasuke got out of was absed on fear and is no where enar the level of a sharingtan genjutsu or the MS version.
Keep being biased. Jiraya goes for a rasengan and Sasuke shunshins away.
That cut through the aura of the nine tailed fox, and it never actually cut through the 9 tailed fox. The only reason Sasuke won was because of the curse mark, and now he doesn't have it. I win.
No, Naruto has to look into the eyes of Sasuke, not the other way around, or else Sasuke would have done that to Itachi, or Deidara, and never did. Yeah, Sasuke will never get a clear shot on Naruto, because Naruto will just turn into 4 tails and win. Naruto shoots a gigantic fire blast and kills Sasuke. Plus. 4 tails would jump on Sasuke and rip his arms off. There is no such thing as a MS paralis jutsu, you made that up. The jutsu he got from Oro is the same one he used on him in there fight, no difference.
You call that biased, 😂, your hilarious. You actually think Sasuke can beat Jiraiya. Sasuke can't even take Itachi, and Itachi would lose to Jiraiya. Jiraiya summons Gamabunta and they use toadflame bomb and burn Sasuke.
Originally posted by Wil7
That cut through the aura of the nine tailed fox, and it never actually cut through the 9 tailed fox. The only reason Sasuke won was because of the curse mark, and now he doesn't have it. I win.No, Naruto has to look into the eyes of Sasuke, not the other way around, or else Sasuke would have done that to Itachi, or Deidara, and never did. Yeah, Sasuke will never get a clear shot on Naruto, because Naruto will just turn into 4 tails and win. Naruto shoots a gigantic fire blast and kills Sasuke. Plus. 4 tails would jump on Sasuke and rip his arms off. There is no such thing as a MS paralis jutsu, you made that up. The jutsu he got from Oro is the same one he used on him in there fight, no difference.
You call that biased, 😂, your hilarious. You actually think Sasuke can beat Jiraiya. Sasuke can't even take Itachi, and Itachi would lose to Jiraiya. Jiraiya summons Gamabunta and they use toadflame bomb and burn Sasuke.
It was 1-tailed Naruto. It had a cloak around it. Sasuke even reffers to it as a chakra cloak when he remembers naruto when he fought hachibi. So now. You loose. And Curse mark doesnt do much but amplify the chakra. The user can pull off the same feats just will take more chakra.
Magen • Kasegui no Jutsu is a Genjutsu technique unique to the Uchiha bloodline Sharingan holders. After activating their Sharingan, the clan member will look into the eyes of their target to bind them with a paralyzing illusion. This illusion takes the form of giant spikes which stake them in place and restrict their movement. A powerful enough ninja will be able to fight the bind to give themselves an opportunity to gain freedom.
This jutsu that IM talking about only requires for the sharingan user to look into the eyes of the target.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/308/10/
Naruto didnt look into the eyes. So no your wrong. Sasuke is able to just look into the eyes. Also dei fight. Sasuke looked into dei eyes and caught him with genjutsu. Analyze better please. And there is a MS paralisis genjutsu.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/09/
The MS paralisis genjutsu that so many mistook for Tsukiyomi. So please hush. Kirabee stated he couldnt move and it looks highly similiar with a Sasuke touch to the genjutsu shackling stakes from earlier.
The fact that Sasuke can Hijack summons and incinerate one instantly with Amaterasu says different. Or Can hack it limb from limb if he uses Chidori Eisou. You are highly biased. Everyone has a weakness. Jiraya weaness just happens to be one of Sasuke strengths. That he can highly exploit. Jiraya doesnt really have a defense for it. And its much easier and quicker to look into someone's eyes than to make summon seals anbd summon. And Considering that Sasuke interupted Itachi hand seals which as we seen are almost godlike in speed So it will be nothing for Sasuke to interupt Jiraya hand seals cuz as we know. Itachi>>>Jiraya when it comes to speed.
And the one he used on Orochimaru he didnt learn from orochimaru wtf are you talking about. its an Uchiha Bloodline technique. I swear. Do you even read the manga or just listen to conversation about people who do read the manga
Originally posted by Csdabest
It was 1-tailed Naruto. It had a cloak around it. Sasuke even reffers to it as a chakra cloak when he remembers naruto when he fought hachibi. So now. You loose. And Curse mark doesnt do much but amplify the chakra. The user can pull off the same feats just will take more chakra.
That still wasn't the 9 tailed fox himself. You are say that he cut through the aura, so what. Sasuke never ever ever cut through the nine tailed fox. You lose, and I win.
Originally posted by Csdabest
And the one he used on Orochimaru he didnt learn from orochimaru wtf are you talking about. its an Uchiha Bloodline technique. I swear. Do you even read the manga or just listen to conversation about people who do read the manga
Just watched some anime manga fights. Sasuke has to have the other person look into his eyes. So your feat where Sasuke has to just look into the eyes is noncanon.
Thats your problem. Your watching anime. Which is not canon. Look at the manga and manga descriptions. He looked into Hachibi eyes and caught him with an MS genjutsu. So no anime is not canon.
And Naruto never transformed into the 9-tailed fox itselfs. He has cut through the kyuubi chakra cloak. He can just supress the kyuubi chakra like he already has shown to. And He already cut through the 8-tails. The 9-tails doesnt look all chakra like. it looks like and animal. So guess what, Most likely it can be cut through two. So far Sanbi Ichibi Hachibi has taken damage to their physical beings
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Didn't Kirabi intend to lose to take a vacation from his village and turn out to be fine?
Originally posted by Csdabest
And Naruto never transformed into the 9-tailed fox itselfs. He has cut through the kyuubi chakra cloak. He can just supress the kyuubi chakra like he already has shown to. And He already cut through the 8-tails. The 9-tails doesnt look all chakra like. it looks like and animal. So guess what, Most likely it can be cut through two. So far Sanbi Ichibi Hachibi has taken damage to their physical beings
Yeah, so Chidori has never cut through the nine tailed fox. A cloak of the fox is not the same thing as the fox himself.Yeah this animal can shatter mountains and create tidal waves. Most likely, chidori won't be able to touch him, one swing of the tail and Sasuke is dead.
Thing is. Once fully transformed. Its no longer a cloak. Its the actuall beast. How do you think Hidan drew blood from the 2 tails. Sasuke Chidori peirced through the chakra shroud or cloak pretime skip with Chidori.
Show me evidence where it says or atleast show me where Chakra cloak tanks more than physical attacks. Cuz so far. Only thing the chakra has gaurded from was a sword.
Also Hachibi didnt intend to lose. He admitted in the same chapter that it was a deperation move. And hachibi was pissed cuz it loss ttails. they decided to bounce after everything was said and done.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Thing is. Once fully transformed. Its no longer a cloak. Its the actuall beast. How do you think Hidan drew blood from the 2 tails. Sasuke Chidori peirced through the chakra shroud or cloak pretime skip with Chidori.Show me evidence where it says or atleast show me where Chakra cloak tanks more than physical attacks. Cuz so far. Only thing the chakra has gaurded from was a sword.
Also Hachibi didnt intend to lose. He admitted in the same chapter that it was a deperation move. And hachibi was pissed cuz it loss ttails. they decided to bounce after everything was said and done.
Well we haven't seen him fully transformed, so you can't say that it can cut through the 9 tails. Why did you bring up Nibi? Who cares if Hidan drew blood from Nibi.
I never said physical attacks couldn't break through the cloak. Do you read my posts.
Why did you bring up Hachibi? Hachibi isn't not at the same skill as Kyuubi, not a chance. Don't bring up Nibi, and Hachibi, we are talking about Kyuubi. Show ME evidence that chidori cut through Kyuubi himself.
Originally posted by Wil7
Well we haven't seen him fully transformed, so you can't say that it can cut through the 9 tails. Why did you bring up Nibi? Who cares if Hidan drew blood from Nibi.I never said physical attacks couldn't break through the cloak. Do you read my posts.
Why did you bring up Hachibi? Hachibi isn't not at the same skill as Kyuubi, not a chance. Don't bring up Nibi, and Hachibi, we are talking about Kyuubi. Show ME evidence that chidori cut through Kyuubi himself.
Your acting like a tard now. We seen what the kyuubi looks like. Its an actual physical beast. Like Hachibi. If Sasuke can cut through hachibi why not Kyuubi. Nothing in the manga states that the bijuu are immune to harm and cant be damaged. Quite the opposite infact. Did you not see what the Nibi looked like. It looked more chakra like then a fully transformed Kyuubi yet blood was still able to be drawn from it.
Im saying physical attacks have failed to peirce through the cloak. Not you. Are you reading my posts?
Skill wtf does skill have to do with being a bijuu?. Kyuubi, hachibi, Nibi, alled the tailed beast are BIJUU. Dont let the names and level of chakra trick you. Nothing suggest Kyuubi is invulnerable to harm. Show me evidence that Chidori cant cut through kyuubi. Another bijuu. Nibi and Hachibi are perfect refferences. I already gave the examples how chidori already cut through the chakra shroud(chakra cloak) pretimeskip at VOTE.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Your acting like a tard now. We seen what the kyuubi looks like. Its an actual physical beast. Like Hachibi. If Sasuke can cut through hachibi why not Kyuubi. Nothing in the manga states that the bijuu are immune to harm and cant be damaged. Quite the opposite infact. Did you not see what the Nibi looked like. It looked more chakra like then a fully transformed Kyuubi yet blood was still able to be drawn from it.Im saying physical attacks have failed to peirce through the cloak. Not you. Are you reading my posts?
Skill wtf does skill have to do with being a bijuu?. Kyuubi, hachibi, Nibi, alled the tailed beast are BIJUU. Dont let the names and level of chakra trick you. Nothing suggest Kyuubi is invulnerable to harm. Show me evidence that Chidori cant cut through kyuubi. Another bijuu. Nibi and Hachibi are perfect refferences. I already gave the examples how chidori already cut through the chakra shroud(chakra cloak) pretimeskip at VOTE.
Well, Hachibi doesn't have the speed that Kyuubi does, Kyuubi would be running so fast that Sasuke couldn't get a clear shot on Kyuubi. I never said that they couldn't be damaged, chidori probably can cut through Kyuubi, don't see it ever happening, but don't compare a cloak to Kyuubi. Well, the fastest biiju is Kyuubi, and beating Nibi isn't that big of a feat. I can name a bunch of people that can beat Nibi.
Well you said chidori was able to pierce through the cloak, and since it is a jab, then physical attacks can pierce through the cloak.
Never said that chidori can't cut through Kyuubi, Nibi, Hachibi, Shukaku, Sanbi, etc. I don't let the names trick me, just that Nibi isn't all that fast, neither Hachibi, Kyuubi on the other hand is way fast. Well since it has never happened, I have no proof, and you have no proof that it can go through. Stop comparing a chakra cloak( which was barely able to get through to hit Naruto) to Kyuubi. A cloak is not the same thing as Kyuubi himself. The only relation that the cloak and Kyuubi has is that they have red chakra. Kyuubi>>>>>>>Cloak. Stop comparing them.
Originally posted by Wil7
Well, Hachibi doesn't have the speed that Kyuubi does, Kyuubi would be running so fast that Sasuke couldn't get a clear shot on Kyuubi. I never said that they couldn't be damaged, chidori probably can cut through Kyuubi, don't see it ever happening, but don't compare a cloak to Kyuubi. Well, the fastest biiju is Kyuubi, and beating Nibi isn't that big of a feat. I can name a bunch of people that can beat Nibi.Well you said chidori was able to pierce through the cloak, and since it is a jab, then physical attacks can pierce through the cloak.
Never said that chidori can't cut through Kyuubi, Nibi, Hachibi, Shukaku, Sanbi, etc. I don't let the names trick me, just that Nibi isn't all that fast, neither Hachibi, Kyuubi on the other hand is way fast. Well since it has never happened, I have no proof, and you have no proof that it can go through. Stop comparing a chakra cloak( which was barely able to get through to hit Naruto) to Kyuubi. A cloak is not the same thing as Kyuubi himself. The only relation that the cloak and Kyuubi has is that they have red chakra. Kyuubi>>>>>>>Cloak. Stop comparing them.
1. Im starting to think your messing with me. There has been no indication of the speed of Bijuus. Specially in bijuu form. And aparently none of them are that fast. Kyuubi sure as hell never ran circles around hashirama. Pretimeskip Sasuke was able to keep up with Naruto 1 tail. And their as been Zero 0 ZERO indication of bijuu speed. So please provide evidence or dont bring this up again.
2.A chakra enfused jab. A chakra attack. Not a physical taijutsu attack. From a sword or a fist.
3. Fast and durability arent the same. And Kyuubi dont have no speed feats not even a statement of how fast it is. Wow.. You are a tard. There is nothing indicating a bijuu cant get cut. Guess what. Kyuubis a bijuu. If all other bijuu cant be cut what makes you think Kyuubi cant? Obviously it can tank damage.