Jiraya and Naruto vs Orochimaru and Sasuke

Originally posted by Csdabest
1. Im starting to think your messing with me. There has been no indication of the speed of Bijuus. Specially in bijuu form. And aparently none of them are that fast. Kyuubi sure as hell never ran circles around hashirama. Pretimeskip Sasuke was able to keep up with Naruto 1 tail. And their as been Zero 0 ZERO indication of bijuu speed. So please provide evidence or dont bring this up again.

2.A chakra enfused jab. A chakra attack. Not a physical taijutsu attack. From a sword or a fist.

3. Fast and durability arent the same. And Kyuubi dont have no speed feats not even a statement of how fast it is. Wow.. You are a tard. There is nothing indicating a bijuu cant get cut. Guess what. Kyuubis a bijuu. If all other bijuu cant be cut what makes you think Kyuubi cant? Obviously it can tank damage.

1. Uh, yeah there has. Go watch Shukaku fight Kyuubi. He can run fast and jump without hesitation to avoid stuff. That is Naruto 1 TAIL, stop comparing a 1 TAILED FOX WITH A 9 TAILED FOX, it isn't the same thing.

2. It is technically still counted as a physical attack in Naruto, even though it uses chakra. It is just like the gentle fist style, just because it uses chakra, doesn't mean it is a ninjutsu.

3. Go watch the Shukaku and Kyuubi fight, and you will see that he can run fast and jump really fast to avoid an attack. NEVER SAID IT COULDN'T BE CUT, JUST SAID WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM BE CUT, AND 1 TAIL DOESN'T COUNT FOR SHIT, YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU CAN'T READ MY DAMM POSTS CORRECTLY!!!

Shukaku never fought Kyuubi... he did fight a morphed-Gamabunta but that means nothing.

wow...this kid is really trying to use anime. Im coceiding this argument before I look like tard for arguing with a tard

Originally posted by Wil7
3. Go watch the Shukaku and Kyuubi fight, and you will see that he can run fast and jump really fast to avoid an attack. NEVER SAID IT COULDN'T BE CUT, JUST SAID WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM BE CUT, AND 1 TAIL DOESN'T COUNT FOR SHIT, YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU CAN'T READ MY DAMM POSTS CORRECTLY!!!

Why watch the Shukaku and Gamabunta fight?

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Why watch the Shukaku and Gamabunta fight?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Shukaku never fought Kyuubi... he did fight a morphed-Gamabunta but that means nothing.

It shows that Kyuubi has speed. Even though it was Gamabunta, do you really think that Gamabunta can run like that, jump like that, being able to grab Shukaku with fangs and claws?

Originally posted by Csdabest
wow...this kid is really trying to use anime. Im coceiding this argument before I look like tard for arguing with a tard

It is to late, you have been looking like a tard saying that 1 tailed fox is the same thing as a 9 tailed fox, tard. The manga's are worse because you don't get to really see the action, while the mang's you do. Would you rather read Lee vs Gaara, or watch Lee vs Gaara. IMO, I rather watch Lee vs Gaara.

Wil7=Tard. ANime adds inconsistencies and plenty of errors. According to anime. Sharingan can tell the differences between Clones and the real one.

Kyuubi shouldnt even be in this cuz Sasuke can control it with MS.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Wil7=Tard. ANime adds inconsistencies and plenty of errors. According to anime. Sharingan can tell the differences between Clones and the real one.

Kyuubi shouldnt even be in this cuz Sasuke can control it with MS.

Csdabest= Everybody sleeping. Anime had 8 trigrams 128 palms, 2nd Hokage's sword of the thunder god, etc. Manga had none of these. So, Sharingan, not including MS, sucks compared to Byakugan, even Kakashi said Byakugan is better.

Have we even seen Sasuke control Kyuubi?

Originally posted by Wil7
Csdabest= Everybody sleeping. Anime had 8 trigrams 128 palms, 2nd Hokage's sword of the thunder god, etc. Manga had none of these. So, Sharingan, not including MS, sucks compared to Byakugan, even Kakashi said Byakugan is better.

Have we even seen Sasuke control Kyuubi?

We kinda do. He suppressed it when Naruto was also trying to.

The Anime is only "canon" when showing canon moves being performed; when it adds random bullshit it becomes stupid.

And I doubt Sawsgod can control any tailed beasts. Only time we've seen close is when naruto was actively suprressing it as well.

Well Kyuubi did comment that Sasuke's chakra and Sharingan are similar to Uchiha Madara, who did control the Kyuubi, that kinda implies that Sasuke has some power over it. But I don't think we should assume that he can just hold back the full power of the Kyuubi.

Kyuubi stated that Sasuke soley suressed the Kyuubi. The feat wasnt given to naruto in manga nor the databooks. Naruto was just refusing to rely on its power and to release the seal.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well Kyuubi did comment that Sasuke's chakra and Sharingan are similar to Uchiha Madara, who did control the Kyuubi, that kinda implies that Sasuke has some power over it. But I don't think we should assume that he can just hold back the full power of the Kyuubi.

I do remember Kyuubi saying his sharingan was like Madara's, but I never saw him control Kyuubi at all.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Kyuubi stated that Sasuke soley suressed the Kyuubi. The feat wasnt given to naruto in manga nor the databooks. Naruto was just refusing to rely on its power and to release the seal.

I don't know where you are getting your info, but Sasuke never controled Kyuubi.

Originally posted by Wil7
I do remember Kyuubi saying his sharingan was like Madara's, but I never saw him control Kyuubi at all.

I don't know where you are getting your info, but Sasuke never controled Kyuubi.

Dark is getting his info from the Manga.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/04-05/
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39196

[Eye power]
The main reason why the "Sharingan" was feared by everyone, including the inhabitants of the village, is the power hidden in those eyes, able to subdue even "bijuu". Sasuke, who is rapidly mastering his skills as an Uchiha, is also gradually awakening to that cursed power.

(balloons: "Those eyes... How did you dare... control me... with those eyes...!"😉
The ultimate power of the "Sharingan", that once could tame even the "Kyuubi". A portion of it is visible in Sasuke when he is able to control Manda.

(balloons: "Now I can see it... So this was your mysterious power...."😉
Sasuke's eye power is even able to seize the Kyuubi that dwells in Naruto's body!! Looking at that ominous strength, the Kyuubi is reminded of Madara Uchiha...

Originally posted by Csdabest
Dark is getting his info from the Manga.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/04-05/
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39196

[Eye power]
The main reason why the "Sharingan" was feared by everyone, including the inhabitants of the village, is the power hidden in those eyes, able to subdue even "bijuu". Sasuke, who is rapidly mastering his skills as an Uchiha, is also gradually awakening to that cursed power.

(balloons: "Those eyes... How did you dare... control me... with those eyes...!"😉
The ultimate power of the "Sharingan", that once could tame even the "Kyuubi". A portion of it is visible in Sasuke when he is able to control Manda.

(balloons: "Now I can see it... So this was your mysterious power...."😉
Sasuke's eye power is even able to seize the Kyuubi that dwells in Naruto's body!! Looking at that ominous strength, the Kyuubi is reminded of Madara Uchiha...

Well you do have proof and evidence, I will say good job, you know too much Naruto. I thought I knew alot but that you know too much. But if he could seize Kyuubi inside Naruto, then why didn't he do it.

I will still say Naruto and Jiraiya easily beat Sasuke. Sasuke isn't a challenge to him. Jiraiya beats Oro quickly and then comes and helps Naruto, they both turn to sage mode and crush him, or Jiraiya summons Gamabunta to crush him.

Thing is. Most likely Jiraya will have his hands tied with orochimaru. Orochimaru style doesnt fit with the conventional shinobi. His attacks are unorthodox and sparatic. Plus the fact that he can just regenerate his body with that kawarimi multiple times and Summon Manda along with a sea of snakes and other snake summonings. Goes to show That Jiraya will have his hands full and could be possibily beaten.

Sasuke would easily beat Naruto. He wont be able to use Senjutsu cuz he needs to stay still and have a significant amount of chakra to collect senjutsu chakra. So KB before it is out of the question. And if He used Ma and Pa toads. then jiraya wont be able to use HM. And would get defeated by orochimaru. And Naruto until further notice is still highly vulnerable to genjutsu

Originally posted by Wil7
Well you do have proof and evidence, I will say good job, you know too much Naruto. I thought I knew alot but that you know too much. But if he could seize Kyuubi inside Naruto, then why didn't he do it.

I will still say Naruto and Jiraiya easily beat Sasuke. Sasuke isn't a challenge to him. Jiraiya beats Oro quickly and then comes and helps Naruto, they both turn to sage mode and crush him, or Jiraiya summons Gamabunta to crush him.

he doesnt know too much you know too little. i dont think oro willbe taken out so easily even oro sealed was giving it to jaraiya

Yeah, Wil7, you overestimate your own knowledge on Naruto.

Originally posted by yungz22
easily even oro sealed was giving it to jaraiya

Tsunade surrpressed Jiraiya's power.

Originally posted by yungz22
he doesnt know too much you know too little. i dont think oro willbe taken out so easily even oro sealed was giving it to jaraiya

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Jiraiya was poisoned.

oh yea i forgot about that...even so that would make them both handicapped also making them equal and oro still gave it to him im not choosing one over the other im saying both of them cant get rid of each other so easily