Sora Bulq vs Obi-Wan Kenobi

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Obi-Wan takes this. Sora will not get through Kenobi's defenses. In Fact Grievous> Bulq considering that Grievous was the Supreme Commander and second only to Dooku.

Nah Bulq was fighting off Mace to a stand off in Sabers. and hes much greater than Ventress.. what forms has Ventress even mastered?? cause Bulqs mastered every form.. + GG was told not to face Cin Drallig right?? Bulq is a greater swordman than Cin.. so I think Bulq>>>Greivous.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Kenobi will tire Bulq out, then KO him. In all three Kenobi is superior

Tire him out? yeah thats possible. but theres no guarantee of that.

and I still dnt see how Kenobi is actually superior to Bulq in Sabers, when Kenobi has only mastered 1 form, whilst Bulq has mastered EVERY FORM. I mean u cant get much better than that in the sabers department!

So I say in Sabers Kenobi fights him to a stand off at best, due to his defence being the best there is. but thats all Kenobis got to offer.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
It's never been stated or even implied that he was on Mace's level.

yes it has..(well in sabers anyway).. mace admits it himself that Bulq is almost his equal in Vapaad, and one of the other jedis says "Only Master Bulq may be his equal." both quotes clonewars volume 1 - schism.

and Mace never beat him in the saber fight.. he put him down with the force. So I say Obi1 beats Bulq with the Force 2. but not in sabers.

While he did not master Vaapad(it mastered him) he did use it. Sabers will be tough for Kenobi. While Bulq got pwned by Dooku, so did Kenobi.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
While he did not master Vaapad(it mastered him) he did use it. Sabers will be tough for Kenobi. While Bulq got pwned by Dooku, so did Kenobi.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nah Bulq was fighting off Mace to a stand off in Sabers. and hes much greater than Ventress.. what forms has Ventress even mastered?? cause Bulqs mastered every form.. + GG was told not to face Cin Drallig right?? Bulq is a greater swordman than Cin.. so I think Bulq>>>Greivous.

Whoa whoa whoa. Bulq better than Drallig? Entirely speculative, but I don't think so. Cin also had mastered every form, with the exception of Vaapad. And was the Jedi Temple battlemaster. Only the most technically skilled hold that position...

Mizukage Yoda: dnt be silly! Quinlan was no match for Bulq! Quinlan Vos himself admitted he culdnt take Bulq alone.. thats why he was trying to get Tholmes help to take him out.

Quinlan got a surprise hit on Bulq.. kind of like the way Obi1 did to Maul.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Whoa whoa whoa. Bulq better than Drallig? Entirely speculative, but I don't think so. Cin also had mastered every form, with the exception of Vaapad. And was the Jedi Temple battlemaster. Only the most technically skilled hold that position...

HaHa! i was waiting for sum1 to go mad at that comment 🙂 ok i was speculating there a bit.. but its defineltely not a bad comparison.. And Wasnt Bulq also a Battlemaster at some point?? if anyone knows please tell... im sure iv heard sumwhere he was.

also Cin had mastered every form minus Vapaad (and minus Juyo I think)..

but Bulq mastered every form.. INCLUDING Vapaad. so its not too far off as far as speculation goes.

Obi-Wan takes it all. I know that the A>B>C argument is not that good but Bulq was beat by Vos after all. Also being a battlemaster doesn't give him vitory. Anakin butchered Cin and after all he couldn't beat Obi-Wan.

the A>B>C argument is not that good

I think that's enough of a rebuttal.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
HaHa! i was waiting for sum1 to go mad at that comment 🙂 ok i was speculating there a bit.. but its defineltely not a bad comparison.. And Wasnt Bulq also a Battlemaster at some point?? if anyone knows please tell... im sure iv heard sumwhere he was.

also Cin had mastered every form minus Vapaad (and minus Juyo I think)..

but Bulq mastered every form.. INCLUDING Vapaad. so its not too far off as far as speculation goes.

No, Bulq was a lightsaber instructor (just like Dooku was), but not the Battle Master. Cin mastered every form but Vaapad...and I don't see why knowing one more form would give Bulq an advantage. Yoda chose to stick with Ataru and master that to its highest possible level, and that worked well for him.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Obi-Wan takes this. Sora will not get through Kenobi's defenses. In Fact Grievous> Bulq considering that Grievous was the Supreme Commander and second only to Dooku. Kenobi will tire Bulq out, then KO him. In all three Kenobi is superior

Originally posted by Enyalus
No, Bulq was a lightsaber instructor (just like Dooku was), but not the Battle Master.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Cin mastered every form but Vaapad...and I don't see why knowing one more form would give Bulq an advantage.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yoda chose to stick with Ataru and master that to its highest possible level, and that worked well for him.

Originally posted by skywalker833
If i am correct, he has also mastered ataru.

you are incorrect. according to the ROTS novel the only form Kenobi had mastery over was soresu.

the number of forms someone knows is kinda besides the point... How good they are at their best form is what truly matters.

either way obi wan was excellant at ataru, considering he spent more than 15 years practicing it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't think there's a quote anywhere that says anything even close to that. If you're referencing the ROTS novel, Mace tells him something like, he's the master of Soresu. Kinda vague, no? Not like Mace has intimate knowledge of every Soresu user in history, anyway.

For all intents and purposes, no not really.

Even if we were to go by just feats, no one in the entire Star Wars mythos has shown abilities with Soresu like Obi-Wan has.

does Bulq make Vapaad his form of choice then? then the only question is: is he better at Vapaad then Kenobi is at Soresu? Considering just how good Kenobi was at Soresu, i'm going to venture a no.

There is no reason to think so. 😬 He hasn't done anything. All he has is ambiguous quotes.

"He mastered Vapaad!"

How? Did he master the technical aspacts, certaintly not the spiritual aspects. The practical application, maybe not?

Who knows.

Obi wan's lightsaber skills are superior to bulq's.

Definititely. Plus Vapaad isn't gonna do a lot so... Bulq's list of advantages grows thin.