Ken Masters VS Geese Howard

Started by Sado229 pages

the only dead horse here is SF itself 🙄

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
a true warrior won by cheapshot... interesting. 😖hifty:
He was possessed by the Satsui no Hadou. Which as can be demonstrated by Gouki, forces the user to spam cheatshots.

'Zactly. They do whatever it takes to win when SNH takes over.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Sado, you are beating a dead horse with this one. On this forum, Southtown is a place full of bums and hobo's and nothing special...go figure. 🙄
As stated Southtown is a town of hyperbole. The "strongest" guy gets beat to death VERY easily(didn't look very strong), it's 1st family of MA claims to have the "strongest" style & they have 3 muthafukas on the team (including the Grandmaster sometimes) w/black belts in this "strongest" style & they can't even win a KOF (punk@sses can't even make it to the finals for buddah's sake). Not to mention they got a style chock full of "death" blows & ain't none of 'em ever "done K'd a B"! Not one of them has a single bodycount. They totally kill clothing though 😂 . What they say about the fighters of Southtown & what said fighters actually do are far from the same. They say cats are "strong as a demon". These same cats run from ripoff, get fuked up so bad people think they got beat to death, & then actually die from falling out a tower. This demon must be the demon that all the other demons in hell rape whenever they feel like it(that was for you Sado). He probably be washin' clothes & braidin' hair too. 😂 Some demon.

Sado, what parts of a semicanon tale are to be taken seriously?

Not to mention Terry wears a goofy hat.

Yeah.

That too. How can he be all that tuff when he wears goofy hats?

And wears incredibly tight jeans, showing he has oddly skinny legs, when compared to his bulky upper torso.

😆 😆 😆 😆 ..........no.

He was possessed by the Satsui no Hadou. Which as can be demonstrated by Gouki, forces the user to spam cheatshots.

like throwing several hadoukens at a fallen opponent, yes?

This demon must be the demon that all the other demons in hell rape whenever they feel like it(that was for you Sado). He probably be washin' clothes & braidin' hair too. Some demon. Sado, what parts of a semicanon tale are to be taken seriously?

the part where i said feats are depicted canonically and that the game itself WAS canon 😐

It happened in the game? Then wTF made you mention the manga?

cuz there is a manga called KoFkyo too to avoid confusion.

Originally posted by I-Drop
'Zactly. They do whatever it takes to win when SNH takes over. As stated Southtown is a town of hyperbole. The "strongest" guy gets beat to death VERY easily(didn't look very strong), it's 1st family of MA claims to have the "strongest" style & they have 3 muthafukas on the team (including the Grandmaster sometimes) w/black belts in this "strongest" style & they can't even win a KOF

Cause KOF is all about A$$anagi and his "hero" trio so they can't have the Sakazaki's win.

On another note. I find it replulsive how that when Sado mention's Ryu in A NEGATIVE WAY, there is a noose placed around his neck...or if it's in a thread that does not concern him, same sh!T. Though when you guys diss on Terry, there is plenty of yucks to go around and as I see now a forum thats got NOTHING to do with him.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Oh yeah, forgot about that.

But still, the scar went from abs to torso and was like, really big, I would not be surprised if it shattered ribs...And likely caused severe blood loss.

Almost cut him in half, yo.
You see how the blood shoots from around his back and not just the front. Caused some real damage.

Originally posted by I-Drop
'Zactly. They do whatever it takes to win when SNH takes over. As stated Southtown is a town of hyperbole. The "strongest" guy gets beat to death VERY easily(didn't look very strong), it's 1st family of MA claims to have the "strongest" style & they have 3 muthafukas on the team (including the Grandmaster sometimes) w/black belts in this "strongest" style & they can't even win a KOF (punk@sses can't even make it to the finals for buddah's sake). Not to mention they got a style chock full of "death" blows & ain't none of 'em ever "done K'd a B"! Not one of them has a single bodycount. They totally kill clothing though 😂 . What they say about the fighters of Southtown & what said fighters actually do are far from the same. They say cats are "strong as a demon". These same cats run from ripoff, get fuked up so bad people think they got beat to death, & then actually die from falling out a tower. This demon must be the demon that all the other demons in hell rape whenever they feel like it(that was for you Sado). He probably be washin' clothes & braidin' hair too. 😂 Some demon.

Sado, what parts of a semicanon tale are to be taken seriously?

😆 😂 🤣

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Cause KOF is all about A$$anagi and his "hero" trio so they can't have the Sakazaki's win.

On another note. I find it replulsive how that when Sado mention's Ryu in A NEGATIVE WAY, there is a noose placed around his neck...or if it's in a thread that does not concern him, same sh!T. Though when you guys diss on Terry, there is plenty of yucks to go around and as I see now a forum thats got NOTHING to do with him.

Well, if you're talking about this thread, Sado mentioned Terry foist. & even when Kyo's not winning ripoff suckassaki's team of "deadly" fighters still can't make it to the finals. They ain't shit.

Fvcking rain! Phils didn't win so I didn't get to riot & loot.

MOW: going from the official representations that aint possible cuz Sagat's scar is only from his abs to his chest. not to his back. we can't use that.

On another note. I find it replulsive how that when Sado mention's Ryu in A NEGATIVE WAY, there is a noose placed around his neck...or if it's in a thread that does not concern him, same sh!T. Though when you guys diss on Terry, there is plenty of yucks to go around and as I see now a forum thats got NOTHING to do with him.

ditto. no one has raged on and hated on a character more than I-drop raging and hating on Ryo. heck, he has been saying "ripoff" since i got here, and its been 2 years to that.
the only reason people lecture me on the ethics of gaming is because i'm raging on jesus christ in a karate gi 😂

notice how NO ONE says anything about that. but me making fun of ryu on ryu's thread (which i helped in creating) and was actually an inside joke, has been something that I-drop's been using against me for sometime and later on others saw it and began regurgitating it at me 😂

like i said, call me McMurphy from now on since i'm going agaisnt he "SF Combine". HOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

~One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
P.S. brain, dead that whiny "sado did it" stuff 😉

As soon as you "dead" doing it, Sado. 😄 Was just pointing out that we didn't bring Terry up.

About ripoff: Nobody cares. You already said you didn't. PG didn't even mention him in his rant. ripoff Suckassaki ain't on the radar really. Why bit<h on his behalf? Only muthafukas people really seem to go to war on are Ryu & Terry. Everybody seems to get along when they ain't mentioned.

All it is is a difference of oppinion bitween two groups of debaters really...

Ryu and Terry would have a really good face off in an actual fight.

However, nobody here even considers what would theoretically happen and go on and on about feats that it becomes an endless cycle of featwars and circular logic. (Notice how I'm bowing out of debates much earlier these days? I do this to avoid circular debates, it's pointless regurgitating the same stuff over and over again if your oppoents don't see, or refuse to aknowlege anything you say and simply taunt you with flames , in-jokes and other stuff.)

Feat Wars ultimately solve nothing, and the spirit of the debate becomes lost amongst all the angst it causes, and the bodily fluids some people have for their favourite characters spills all over the threads...

Personally, I'd love to see half these fights made into animes, written properly and animated well, it's then that theories of HOW a fight goes down that wopuld determin the victor more than anything done in the past would show, for example, Terry beating geese for the upteen millionth time would not prove much against Ryu, simply because Ryu is a different person, simultaneously, ryu facing down Akuma would not be of much value against Terry, since Akuma and Terry are also different.

In theoretical debates such as these, feats may be important, but they fade into obscurity in the face of the moment... How would these men fight each other, based on their expereinces, teachings, training, and personal principals of fighting...

I only sided with Ryu (Barely) in the Ryu vs Terry debate simply based on the fact that Ryu's tutelage and upbringing have given him a more solid fighting background to use, as opposed to Terry's mostly self taught style. MA masters rely on the philosophies of their art to dictate their methodology in fighting, Terry lacks any sort of real philosophical background exept for the very early teachings from Jeff, while ryu's 10 years of training from Gouken was largely complete before Gouyken's (supposed) death, and Ryu's been using his masters teachings very solidly ever since, continuing to grow and master the arts on his own, always evolving and adapting to meed the needs of victory over his opponents, but always having that solid core background to go back to if and when the need arises.

This is certainly not to say that Terry is no match for Ryu, far from it, it could still go either way, Ryu's determination and warriors heart is every bit matched by Terry's fierce spirit and self taught capability, Where ryu had tutelage and guided training to focus his natural fighting ability, Terry's primary focus was vengence, he purred himself into fighting shape with the need to surpass Geese and defeat him, essentially he traveled a very dark and tragic road that severely toughened him up at a very dangerous fast pace, he invented most of the techniques he uses by hand. And when the time came, he was able to meet the challenge, he defeated Geese, a man that has haunted Terry since childhood. Overcoming such an adversary is no small feat.

This was ONLY mirrored in Ryu with the awakening of the Satsui No Hadou, and even though the Killing intent was no physical opponent like Geese was to Terry, it served every bit to force Ryu to make a choice, become a slave to murderous power, or continue to strive for something better...

The end result is that we have 2 fighters, brought into the fighters way by 2 very different roads, but both faced similar challenges, one is almost entirely self taught and has the spirit strong enough to face any opponent, vs one who has been trained by one of the best martial artists in the world, and has had the strength of will to resist the temptation of power to become more than his fist could tell you.

Thats my aview of the debated characters...

About ripoff: Nobody cares. You already said you didn't. PG didn't even mention him in his rant. ripoff Suckassaki ain't on the radar really. Why bit<h on his behalf? Only muthafukas people really seem to go to war on are Ryu & Terry. Everybody seems to get along when they ain't mentioned

as a humanbeing and an intellectual thinker i can't agree with the above statement. i am humanly repelled by it and every part of my fallible anatomy is repelled by such a false, insensitive and demeaning show of ignorance. Let me hereby declare that this is not about ryo being a ripoff or ryu having no feats and still being considered the best for absolutely no reason.
This is something else.
This is about right, justice, equality, humanity and gender emancipation. an asian man can't hate on another asian dude but black dude hating on white dude is acceptable? this is the kinda shite that has held down people all over the world, why little children die for no reason, why black people were turned into slaves and made to work a white man's farm in the name of god and humanity, why women can't go to work in several countries, why Saddam Hussain aint no different than George "Dubya" Bush and why Bin Ladin is doing what he's doing. putting your arm around an asian boy while a black-turned-white-pedophile sings "we are the world" aint the end of discrimination of social injustice or inequality. its stuff like this that gets good people killed, and women forced to undergo abortion, and men have their cocks cut off while they are forced to run in a swamp covered with landmines, and why women are wearing strapons and f0cking men in the ass. this is the reason why so many good people got killed and why Arabs blow themselves up to show that the islam is a religion of peace. this is why athiests are more conscerned with the existence of god than theists and why agnostics are more tolerant of others than religious people.
don't you see what's happening? everytime you say ryo's a ripoff god kills a little kitten to cover up for you sins. everytime i say ryu aint god, god brings armageddon even closer to our backs than ever.
don't you get it?!? i am destroying the world. who is to say, that if i say ryu's not god enough times, the world will stop spinning and the 4 trumpets of the day of judgement will blare so hard that we won't be able to hear what brittany spears and 50cent are saying. don't you see?! are you that blinded, you stray sheep? repent and we will be saved. or shall i offer my body as bread so we can feast together in the last supper. please, brother, don't forget my crown of thorns as i carry the crucifix of hate and anarchy and die for the sins of all fanboys so that people can finally play a game without turning it into psalms of destruction, seeds of hate.

this is how the world ends
this is how the world ends
this is how the world ends
not with a bang but a shinkuu hadouken

@Darkstorm: nice post, man. reminds of the good old days where darko was always the man to rise to the occassion.

However, nobody here even considers what would theoretically happen and go on and on about feats that it becomes an endless cycle of featwars and circular logic. (Notice how I'm bowing out of debates much earlier these days? I do this to avoid circular debates, it's pointless regurgitating the same stuff over and over again if your oppoents don't see, or refuse to aknowlege anything you say and simply taunt you with flames , in-jokes and other stuff.)

.......i take it all back, a$$hole 😐

I only sided with Ryu (Barely) in the Ryu vs Terry debate simply based on the fact that Ryu's tutelage and upbringing have given him a more solid fighting background to use, as opposed to Terry's mostly self taught style. MA masters rely on the philosophies of their art to dictate their methodology in fighting, Terry lacks any sort of real philosophical background exept for the very early teachings from Jeff, while ryu's 10 years of training from Gouken was largely complete before Gouyken's (supposed) death, and Ryu's been using his masters teachings very solidly ever since, continuing to grow and master the arts on his own, always evolving and adapting to meed the needs of victory over his opponents, but always having that solid core background to go back to if and when the need arises.

that's a good point. but, suggesting that using the same fighting style without making any revolutionary changes to it is better than upgrading your style and mixing it up with several styles via practical training is a debatable suggestion. i know what you're saying but i'm saying its arguable. for the simple reason that a fighter who has always fought in karate may be at a disadvantage against someone who has learnt karate, boxing, kung fu and ground fighting. whether he may win is arguable.

terry's also more experienced, has had a tougher life and has fought more often. also, he while ryu was dojo dorking for the most part of it, terry got an "feild training" and experience which IMO surpasses what ryu did by the same logic that simulation flight is not better than actually flying a plane.

This is certainly not to say that Terry is no match for Ryu, far from it, it could still go either way, Ryu's determination and warriors heart is every bit matched by Terry's fierce spirit and self taught capability, Where ryu had tutelage and guided training to focus his natural fighting ability, Terry's primary focus was vengence, he purred himself into fighting shape with the need to surpass Geese and defeat him, essentially he traveled a very dark and tragic road that severely toughened him up at a very dangerous fast pace, he invented most of the techniques he uses by hand. And when the time came, he was able to meet the challenge, he defeated Geese, a man that has haunted Terry since childhood. Overcoming such an adversary is no small feat.

ditto. a little correction though: by the time terry actually faced geese he had outgrown a need for revenge and it was mainly just the need to fight a strong warrior.

This was ONLY mirrored in Ryu with the awakening of the Satsui No Hadou, and even though the Killing intent was no physical opponent like Geese was to Terry, it served every bit to force Ryu to make a choice, become a slave to murderous power, or continue to strive for something better. The end result is that we have 2 fighters, brought into the fighters way by 2 very different roads, but both faced similar challenges, one is almost entirely self taught and has the spirit strong enough to face any opponent, vs one who has been trained by one of the best martial artists in the world, and has had the strength of will to resist the temptation of power to become more than his fist could tell you.

ditto.

~Sado

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
All it is is a difference of oppinion bitween two groups of debaters really...

Ryu and Terry would have a really good face off in an actual fight.

However, nobody here even considers what would theoretically happen and go on and on about feats that it becomes an endless cycle of featwars and circular logic. (Notice how I'm bowing out of debates much earlier these days? I do this to avoid circular debates, it's pointless regurgitating the same stuff over and over again if your oppoents don't see, or refuse to aknowlege anything you say and simply taunt you with flames , in-jokes and other stuff.)

Feat Wars ultimately solve nothing, and the spirit of the debate becomes lost amongst all the angst it causes, and the bodily fluids some people have for their favourite characters spills all over the threads...

Personally, I'd love to see half these fights made into animes, written properly and animated well, it's then that theories of HOW a fight goes down that wopuld determin the victor more than anything done in the past would show, for example, Terry beating geese for the upteen millionth time would not prove much against Ryu, simply because Ryu is a different person, simultaneously, ryu facing down Akuma would not be of much value against Terry, since Akuma and Terry are also different.

In theoretical debates such as these, feats may be important, but they fade into obscurity in the face of the moment... How would these men fight each other, based on their expereinces, teachings, training, and personal principals of fighting...

I only sided with Ryu (Barely) in the Ryu vs Terry debate simply based on the fact that Ryu's tutelage and upbringing have given him a more solid fighting background to use, as opposed to Terry's mostly self taught style. MA masters rely on the philosophies of their art to dictate their methodology in fighting, Terry lacks any sort of real philosophical background exept for the very early teachings from Jeff, while ryu's 10 years of training from Gouken was largely complete before Gouyken's (supposed) death, and Ryu's been using his masters teachings very solidly ever since, continuing to grow and master the arts on his own, always evolving and adapting to meed the needs of victory over his opponents, but always having that solid core background to go back to if and when the need arises.

This is certainly not to say that Terry is no match for Ryu, far from it, it could still go either way, Ryu's determination and warriors heart is every bit matched by Terry's fierce spirit and self taught capability, Where ryu had tutelage and guided training to focus his natural fighting ability, Terry's primary focus was vengence, he purred himself into fighting shape with the need to surpass Geese and defeat him, essentially he traveled a very dark and tragic road that severely toughened him up at a very dangerous fast pace, he invented most of the techniques he uses by hand. And when the time came, he was able to meet the challenge, he defeated Geese, a man that has haunted Terry since childhood. Overcoming such an adversary is no small feat.

This was ONLY mirrored in Ryu with the awakening of the Satsui No Hadou, and even though the Killing intent was no physical opponent like Geese was to Terry, it served every bit to force Ryu to make a choice, become a slave to murderous power, or continue to strive for something better...

The end result is that we have 2 fighters, brought into the fighters way by 2 very different roads, but both faced similar challenges, one is almost entirely self taught and has the spirit strong enough to face any opponent, vs one who has been trained by one of the best martial artists in the world, and has had the strength of will to resist the temptation of power to become more than his fist could tell you.

Thats my aview of the debated characters...

Damn. You had a lot on your mind, good post though. I think this would be an awesome anime battle. They should either use the guys who make the SF4 stuff or the KOF:AD stuff. Just don't put any fagcoon designs or Sakura in there