The the LT one shot the IG?

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celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's true, but like I said before good friend,
the next arc (Infinity War) '
depicted the LT as the one that literally powers up the IG with a phrase.

Basically, if LT says, the Gems may work in unison, the IG becomes functional,
if LT says, the IG may not work in unison, the IG loses the ability to function.

I agree, during the Warlock confrontation, this fact was not evident,
but during Infinity War, it became the canon updated Marvel fact,
and that fact is ... LT > IG, by leaps and bounds.

I will submit, ONLY if the LT's faces agree, can LT affect the IG.

Taking Warlock & the infinity Watch #1 into consideration?

I agree.

Taking Infinity War into consideration?

I disagree.

The LT didn't depower the gems. They still worked fine on their own. He just prevented them from working together after they were separated. If the LT had absolute control over the IG after it was combined, he could have simply shut it down without having to destroy reality.

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Erm, if the LT doesn't make the gauntlet not work together, then the LT isn't one-shotting an IG wielder. The Power Gem makes one physically invulnerable.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Yes.

And easily, imo.

Hewhoknowsall Restricted

But didn't the LT say something like he would have to destroy the entire omniverse to wrest the IG from Adam Warlock?

KuRuPT Thanosi Senior Member

Exaclty the LT even said it wouldn't be easy but he would eventually win. I think that about says it right there.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
That's true, but like I said before good friend,
the next arc (Infinity War) '
depicted the LT as the one that literally powers up the IG with a phrase.

Basically, if LT says, the Gems may work in unison, the IG becomes functional,
if LT says, the IG may not work in unison, the IG loses the ability to function.

I agree, during the Warlock confrontation, this fact was not evident,
but during Infinity War, it became the canon updated Marvel fact,
and that fact is ... LT > IG, by leaps and bounds.

I will submit, ONLY if the LT's faces agree, can LT affect the IG.

Taking Warlock & the infinity Watch #1 into consideration?

I agree.

Taking Infinity War into consideration?

I disagree.

Still disagree. If it were so easy then like I said he wouldnt have needed Warlock to hand them over.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
The LT didn't depower the gems. They still worked fine on their own. He just prevented them from working together after they were separated. If the LT had absolute control over the IG after it was combined, he could have simply shut it down without having to destroy reality.
Agree,although I do think the Lt would defeat an ig user just not easily.

celestialdemon Down from the Upside
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
But didn't the LT say something like he would have to destroy the entire omniverse to wrest the IG from Adam Warlock?

Not the omniverse. His exact words were "lay waste to this reality." I think he was just talking about 616.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by celestialdemon

The LT didn't depower the gems. They still worked fine on their own.
He just prevented them from working together after they were separated.


Again, that was in Infinity War. (which was published AFTER Warlock & the Infinity Watch)

The Gems worked fine on their own, but the IG was completely in-affective.

Why?

Cause the LT said so. (absolute control)

Then the IG in Infinity War was became affective.

Why?

Cause the LT said so. (absolute control)

Originally posted by celestialdemon

If the LT had absolute control over the IG after it was combined,

he could have simply shut it down without having to destroy reality.


Yall are still focusing on the prior arc,
let's stick to the arc that proceeds Warlock & the Infinity Watch #1,
which is the Infinity War arc.

Starlin made it quite clear,
that the IG's function depends on the LT's allowance.

"His (LT) judgement is obviously keeping the GEMS from working together"

This isn't control over the IG?

....................................................................................

Since it was Eternity who convinced the Tribunal to rule against the IG,
only Eternity now can make the Living Tribunal change his ruling.

Eternity agrees, realizing the impending danger and faints:

A single phrase uttered by LT actually POWERS UP the Infinity Gauntlet.

The result in an instant:

....................................................................................

Sincerely friends, I don't see how yall don't see this.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus

Erm, if the LT doesn't make the gauntlet not work together,
then the LT isn't one-shotting an IG wielder.


During Infinity War we learned that it's the LT that makes the IG significant.

LT curbstomps any IG wielder,
meh, not to mention the official Marvel Handbook makes it clear,
the LT's power is superior to the IG:

Originally posted by Enyalus

The Power Gem makes one physically invulnerable.


Until that infinite invulnerability is surpassed by a greater infinity, like the LT's.

LT on panel demonstrated his superior power over the IG:

Warlock/IG unleashes his fury, obliterating the hierarchy: (LT is unfazed)

With a gesture, LT stops the IG attack, and re-creates the hierarchy:

At the end of this issue (Warlock & the Infinity Watch #1)
the LT states,
a confrontation with the IG would lay waste to this reality (Dimension of Manifestations)

LT should know, but exactly what does that mean though?

In one move LT or the IG can wipe out reality,
so imo, even if LT performed a "one-shot" on the IG, it could still devastate reality.

My point is, we don't know how much it would take for LT to stomp the IG,
we know that would be the end result though,
but we also know, it can just as easily take one move, as in, one shot.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name
Originally posted by Enyalus
Erm, if the LT doesn't make the gauntlet not work together, then the LT isn't one-shotting an IG wielder. The Power Gem makes one physically invulnerable.

What good is the IG going to be for this IG wielder if the glove no longer works?

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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What good is the IG going to be for this IG wielder if the glove no longer works?

You just quoted me, so I know you read it...'if the LT doesn't make the gauntlet not work together...'

I know it's phrased oddly, but really...

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

No, that's the questioning I'm asking. Also, what makes you think he can't one-shot a user if the gems still work in unison? I never got the impression that the LT was "worried" about the IG.

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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No, that's the questioning I'm asking. Also, what makes you think he can't one-shot a user if the gems still work in unison? I never got the impression that the LT was "worried" about the IG.

The Power Gem, when used correctly, would be like a super version of Cytorrak's gem. Physical invulnerability, and infinite strength. No one is one-shotting someone who is invulnerable - abstract level or not.

But yeah, if he turns off the gauntlet, it'd be an easy win.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

I agree with your assessment on the Power Gem. But do you really think that applies to the LT as well?

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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I agree with your assessment on the Power Gem. But do you really think that applies to the LT as well?

Lol, if LT attempts to punch him or throw an energy blast at him? Hell yeah. Matter manipulation or throwing a megaverse at him - probably not.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

I never got the impression that the LT was "worried" about the IG.


👆 ... Especially when it's the LT himself who makes the IG even significant. 🙂

The next time the IG came into the picture
was right before the Ultraverse/Avengers arc,
in that series, Rune acquired the IG,
now we later learned that Gems themselves were becoming sentient,
and were messing up Rune's control, making him extremely vulnerable,
but before we knew this, the Silver Surfer told the LT,
I know you can defeat this creature (Rune/IG) easily,
the LT's only response was: "In order for this self to act, my 3 faces must agree."

So the LT acknowledged that as a fact,
but of course,
since the LT follows strict protocol,
he can't act, unless he's meant to. (the 3 face stellar skull agrees)

Knowsbleed33 You know my name
Originally posted by Enyalus
Lol, if LT attempts to punch him or throw an energy blast at him? Hell yeah. Matter manipulation or throwing a megaverse at him - probably not.

The LT once, literally one-shotted a being who's power was too vast for any 1 universe to contain. I some how doubt the Power Gem would be any kind of problem for him.

But, that's just IMO.

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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
The LT once, literally one-shotted a being who's power was too vast for any 1 universe to contain. I some how doubt the Power Gem would be any kind of problem for him.

But, that's just IMO.

Who're you referring to, so I have reference?

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus

The Power Gem, when used correctly,

Physical invulnerability, and infinite strength.


This means nothing against the LT.

LT's infinity > IG's infinity

Originally posted by Enyalus

No one is one-shotting someone who is invulnerable - abstract level or not.


IG makes one God over space-time.

But the IG only makes you invulnerable to those below it,
the LT is above it, because the LT is the representative of one who is above God!

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Originally posted by Mr Master
But the IG only makes you invulnerable to those below it,

I didn't really realize that, but it makes sense enough. I'll defer to your interpretation.