Thor/Juggernaut vs Superman/Konvikt

Started by Knowsbleed3320 pages

Konvikt has nothing on Juggernaut. People keep going back to how slow Juggernaut is. He's slow because he chooses to be so, when you have power like that, you're not in a hurry to get any where.

Superman being stronger than Juggernaut is pure speculation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You think that Supes is stronger than Juggs? Based on?

So by your logic any brick thats strng and can jump can defeat Juggs?


Where did you see me say Konvikt Defeats Juggs?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Where did you see me say Konvikt Defeats Juggs?
How is Superman stronger than Juggs?

Does Juggs beat Konvikt then?

Juggernaut doesn't have many strength feats because he doesn't need em. Strength isn't his main ability, his durability is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor beat him ina few strikes.

Thor didn't beat shit. He rushed in when Rulk didn't expect it and hit him a few times with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didnt know anything about Rulk

Yet that didn't change Thor's tactics on how to beat him, did it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
and in their second encounter he almost killed him quite easily.

Almost killed him quite easily? What the f*ck comic did you read?

Rulk wasn't even KO'd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
For one Supes has a weakness against magic

Not so much anymore. And in any case, that's a huge misnomer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I feel that writer didnt touch upon it.

The writer- Kurt Busiek- knows as much about both Superman and Thor as any person alive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This shouldnt have eluded you. Thor was shocked he cuaght it and lost mainly due to that fact imo.

He lost because Kurt Busiek felt that Superman is better in combat than Thor.

You're making a completely fair win seem like it was in someway cheap, which it wasn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Current Thor has a different attitude than classic Thor. He holds back less.

He also has the Odin Power. This thread specifically states Classic Thor. There's no sense in bringing up his current feats anyway.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are one to talk about bias. 😂

Indeed I am. Especially when I'm talking to somebody who thinks Thanos would beat Odin in a fight. 🙂

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He's slow because he chooses to be so, when you have power like that, you're not in a hurry to get any where.

Superman being stronger than Juggernaut is pure speculation.

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You're saying that Juggernaut is slow because he chooses to be slow, but Superman being stronger than Juggernaut is speculative?

barker

So classic thor agaisnt current Supes would turn out the exact sameway as there first encounter...except that Supes has gradually become more powerful since that point. Juggy agaisnt Kon is a lopsided contest in favor of teamn 2....exactly what is the debate here?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Some consider this a godblast. Whatever this is it could finish Superman imo.

Right, because again, Superman is just going to stand there and allow Thor to summon a blast without defending himself.

facepalm

Well it isn't like Supes uses h2h in h2h situations...oh wait lol.

Originally posted by batdude123
Thor didn't beat shit. He rushed in when Rulk didn't expect it and hit him a few times with Mjolnir.

Yet that didn't change Thor's tactics on how to beat him, did it?

Almost killed him quite easily? What the f*ck comic did you read?

Rulk wasn't even KO'd.

Not so much anymore. And in any case, that's a huge misnomer.

The writer- Kurt Busiek- knows as much about both Superman and Thor as any person alive.

He lost because Kurt Busiek felt that Superman is better in combat than Thor.

You're making a completely fair win seem like it was in someway cheap, which it wasn't.

He also has the Odin Power. This thread specifically states Classic Thor. There's no sense in bringing up his current feats anyway.

Indeed I am. Especially when I'm talking to somebody who thinks Thanos would beat Odin in a fight. 🙂

Thor beat him easily. Rulk beat a clueless Thor with his own hammer. When thor was ready for him it ended quickly. Thats the point.

He knew who his opponent was and felt he dishonored mjolnir when he laid his hands upon it. Thor swore it wouldnt happen again. It didnt.

Rulk said he might have just spared his life. Thor wasnt playing around and Rulk was just standing there dazed and confused. Please read the comics you debate with me.

He is weak against magic. If he isnt feel free to post proof.

Just because he knows about it that doesnt mean he factored that in when he wrote the fight.

Supes won due to Thor's initial shock. Thats my opinion and one I can support by looking at the end of the battle.

Thor isnt as powerful as Odin. I know he has the odinpower,but I believe they arent touching upon that. Imagine writing a comic about Odin. Pretty tough to do when the guy has affected the multiverse.

Thanos has been upgraded since then. He didnt lose the first fight. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
Right, because again, Superman is just going to stand there and allow Thor to summon a blast without defending himself.

facepalm

He grabbed him and brought the blast out immediately. Cant you see that in the scan? You keep downplaying Thor in favor of Superman. Thor is clearly more powerful and can clearly grab ahold of him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is weak against magic. If he isnt feel free to post proof.

Just because he knows about it that doesnt mean he factored that in when he wrote the fight.

Supes won due to Thor's initial shock. Thats my opinion and one I can support by looking at the end of the battle.

Thor isnt as powerful as Odin. I know he has the odinpower,but I believe they arent touching upon that. Imagine writing a comic about Odin. Pretty tough to do when the guy has affected the multiverse.

Thanos has been upgraded since then. He didnt lose the first fight. 🙂

So the intial shock is what caused him to lose....boy talk about stretching. By that same logic I can excuse all of SS loses agaisnt Thanos as a result of"CIS"and saying Thanos didnt lose the first fight is a bit out of context don't you agree. Exactly what has classic thor done(which was stated by the TS)that would make u believe he could take current supes?

Yeah, cuz you know, it's not like superman can't spin around really fast and throw Thor hundreds of miles away. He just stands there and let's thor try and kiss him. lulz.

He spins and Thor rips his arms off. 😱

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So the intial shock is what caused him to lose....boy talk about stretching. By that same logic I can excuse all of SS loses agaisnt Thanos as a result of"CIS"and saying Thanos didnt lose the first fight is a bit out of context don't you agree. Exactly what has classic thor done(which was stated by the TS)that would make u believe he could take current supes?
You can tell Thor was shocked that he caught his hammer. Then he got knocked out. Im not spinning anything. Superman won the fight due to that imo.

Thanos beat Surfer down easily. Completely different. Superman also called Thor the toughest person he faced up to that point. 😉

I alread posted some of his feats in this thread. He beat Surefr and warlock together easily.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Yeah, cuz you know, it's not like superman can't spin around really fast and throw Thor hundreds of miles away. He just stands there and let's thor try and kiss him. lulz.
You would think if it was that easy to throw Thor around then everytime he spun his Hammer really fast he would go racing a 100 miles away...

Oh wait he doesn't.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So the intial shock is what caused him to lose....boy talk about stretching. By that same logic I can excuse all of SS loses agaisnt Thanos as a result of"CIS"and saying Thanos didnt lose the first fight is a bit out of context don't you agree. Exactly what has classic thor done(which was stated by the TS)that would make u believe he could take current supes?

SS loses against thanos have absolutely NO relationship or similarities here. And classic thor vs superman is a pretty even fight that as been debated for ages. If u dont know what thor has done that makes people think he is comparable to superman then u are a joke.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
SS loses against thanos have absolutely NO relationship or similarities here. And classic thor vs superman is a pretty even fight that as been debated for ages. If u dont know what thor has done that makes people think he is comparable to superman then u are a joke.
😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can tell Thor was shocked that he caught his hammer. Then he got knocked out. Im not spinning anything. Superman won the fight due to that imo.

Thanos beat Surfer down easily. Completely different. Superman also called Thor the toughest person he faced up to that point. 😉

I alread posted some of his feats in this thread. He beat Surefr and warlock together easily.

So supes won the fight because he parried Thor's best attack and delievered a counter-hit....exactly what are you trying to say here?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
SS loses against thanos have absolutely NO relationship or similarities here. And classic thor vs superman is a pretty even fight that as been debated for ages. If u dont know what thor has done that makes people think he is comparable to superman then u are a joke.

Umm..I dont think Thor is as fast or physically strong as supes. I dont believe Thors h2h abilites compare or even his striking power, blitz FTW.