Originally posted by fangirl101
New Gods 1995
New gods 1.
Orion uses AF to cleanse New gen of Some mystich death that even highfather can't defeat
New Gods 4.
Orion creates a full force shield tight around himself kinda like Superman's Bio Aura
I'll post more later. On Orion. I can only take so much. ZOMG
Not to burst ur bubble, but u r posting individual feats which are kinda repetitive as many of them make use of the same powers though the feats may be different.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Not to burst ur bubble, but u r posting individual feats which are kinda repetitive as many of them make use of the same powers though the feats may be different.
Originally posted by fangirl101
You haven't burst shit. Really. I'm just giving the feats. Now if they are repetitive, copy them and tell me what's repetitive about them. I haven't even gone thru fourth world or the two orion series.
OH jeez try to get the point before going off on rants. The point of the debate is to determine the greater versatility. U are just posting what he does issue per issue regardless of whether he is doing something similar to what was done in a previous issue.
In one comic u mention him flying, In another one u mention him flying again. U mentioned feats were he did inorganic molecular manipulation by dissolving/restructuring something on like five different occasions. U mention telepathy in like three or four. U mentioned feats that involved he mother box tracking on 4 or 5 different occasions as well etc. NOt to say that he isnt still pretty versatile but simply mentioning what he does in almost evry issue is not going to prove he is as versatile as thor.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
OH jeez try to get the point before going off on rants. The point of the debate is to determine the greater versatility. U are just posting what he does issue per issue regardless of whether he is doing something similar to what was done in a previous issue.In one comic u mention him flying, In another one u mention him flying again. U mentioned feats were he did inorganic molecular manipulation by dissolving/restructuring something on like five different occasions. U mention telepathy in like three or four. U mentioned feats that involved he mother box tracking on 4 or 5 different occasions as well.
next, don't tell me you are bursting my bubble. If you were looking at the comics like I was, then you'd know they were different kinds of event. He uses telepathy in one instance to scan the city.
In another he allows human beings to see what he's seeing.
In another he's calling to highfather from Earth to new genesis. I wanted to show the range of his power.
etc.
And I didn't say inorganic manip like 5 times. becuz that's not what the book says. I'm sorry if anyone comes near to your precious Thor that you have to tell someone that you hate to burst a bubble. That was dumb.
Originally posted by fangirl101
First of all. I never said Orion had greater veratility Thano Thor. I said he was versatile enough coupled with his greater Stats that they were evenly matched.next, don't tell me you are bursting my bubble. If you were looking at the comics like I was, then you'd know they were different kinds of event. He uses telepathy in one instance to scan the city.
In another he allows human beings to see what he's seeing.
In another he's calling to highfather from Earth to new genesis. I wanted to show the range of his power.
etc.
And I didn't say inorganic manip like 5 times. becuz that's not what the book says. I'm sorry if anyone comes near to your precious Thor that you have to tell someone that you hate to burst a bubble. That was dumb.
Wait so its that statement thats making go on this uneccessary rant?lol
What i got from ur statements (and what most people probably got) is that u believed thor and orion were equal in versatility. And what i was pointing out was that u mentioning him using the same power in different instances does not prove that in any way. As i pointed out, u kept mentioning instances of him using what was in essence inorganic matter manip through restructuring/dissolving things and other instances of him using in essence the same power in different instances. This wud not be a valid way to prove that Orion was as versatile as thor. But since u say u u never intended that then there are no problems as i have already said that thor and orion are pretty evenly matched. So cool ur rant about "my precious thor" or whatever ur talking about cuz it is highly uneccessary.
Originally posted by ultimatethorand you dont' think telling me that you hate to burst my bubble was highly unnecessary? really.
Wait so its that statement thats making go on this uneccessary rant?lolWhat i got from ur statements (and what most people probably got) is that u believed thor and orion were equal in versatility. And what i was pointing out was that u mentioning him using the same power in different instances does not prove that in any way. A very valid point. But since u say u u never intended that then there are no problems as i have already said that thor and orion are pretty evenly matched. So cool ur rant about "my precious thor" or whatever ur talking about cuz it is highly uneccessary.
Thanks, Fangirl, this shows that Orion is just as versatile than Thor. I looked at goober's list and Orion has done virtually all of those feats at one time.
Some others I'd like to add:
Mother Box has shown to calm people and take people out of trances.
Orion has also shown the ability to FLY without the harness.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well did orion contain the energy itself or defeat the guy who was using the energy? Cuz battles always have circumstances and context to them and so trying to use them as evidence without giving the actual details of the fight wud be poor ABC logic.As for versatility, Ill just name some things thor has done which u havent mentioned orion being able to do
Thor has turned people invisible
Thor has produced antimatter
THor has shown the ability to negate gravity
Thor has transmuted absorbing man to gas
Thor has shrunk hyperion to antsize
Thor has absorbed life force etc..As for top tiers in marvel thor is second only to Ss versatility wise.
To be honest, there are a couple things Orion hasn't done on your list. Like transmuting a man into gas, but Orion has transmuted other things before. Like when he transmuted a gun (I Think it was a gun) into flours.
Originally posted by ultimatethorI suppose I could start posting stuff like Orion's superspeed, and I've found evidence that he and DS were fighting at Superspeeds. Or How he survived being in the middle of two planets when they crashed together. Or how he's beaten demons in thier own wrealms, etc. Adding in his ridiculous flight speed without the harness, combat speed, and MB, He's exactly a match for thor's versatility.
lol. So i was right. That statement is whats gotten u riled. lol.
Originally posted by cloud102
To be honest, there are a couple things Orion hasn't done on your list. Like transmuting a man into gas, but Orion has transmuted other things before. Like when he transmuted a gun (I Think it was a gun) into flours.
Even fangirl agrees that Orion is not quite as versatile as thor not that he isnt pretty versatile himself.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I suppose I could start posting stuff like Orion's superspeed, and I've found evidence that he and DS were fighting at Superspeeds. Or How he survived being in the middle of two planets when they crashed together. Or how he's beaten demons in thier own wrealms, etc. Adding in his ridiculous flight speed without the harness, combat speed, and MB, He's exactly a match for thor's versatility.
Thor has survived the pressure equivalent to a score of planets and planetary destroying weapons. Beating demonsin their own realm or whatever really doesnt porve anything as it is ABC logic.
Originally posted by cloud102
Anything Thor can do, Orion can counter it with the Mother Box. It has been stated it can do practically anything.
It being stated that it can do anything hardly proves ur point. Surfer powercosmic has been stated to be able to accomplish anything, so are we to assume that he can?
And no all the stuff i posted orion hasnt done at one time or the other. Even u just admitted that in a previous post.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Thor has survived the pressure equivalent to a score of planets and planetary destroying weapons. Beating demonsin their own realm or whatever really doesnt porve anything as it is ABC logic.
Where did you get ABC logic from?
Anyway, Orion can lock on to a person's electron's so he knows where they are at all times
Orion uses the mother box to Phase thru buildings by "thinning out" his molecular structure
When Orion Transfigures himself to Mr. Miracle, He actually Gets Mr. Miracle's Acrobatics, and His ability to escape any prison. And he doesn't even know how he does it.
Mother Box can atomic restructur things out of NOTHING.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
It being stated that it can do anything hardly proves ur point. Surfer powercosmic has been stated to be able to accomplish anything, so are we to assume that he can?And no all the stuff i posted orion hasnt done at one time or the other. Even u just admitted that in a previous post.
I admited he never turned someone into gas, but has Thor transmuted something into flours? See it balances out. And Fangirl hasn't posted every Orion appearance. He's only covered like half.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Where did you get ABC logic from?Anyway, Orion can lock on to a person's electron's so he knows where they are at all times
Orion uses the mother box to Phase thru buildings by "thinning out" his molecular structure
When Orion Transfigures himself to Mr. Miracle, He actually Gets Mr. Miracle's Acrobatics, and His ability to escape any prison. And he doesn't even know how he does it.
Mother Box can atomic restructur things out of NOTHING.
ABC logic, comes in when u talked about orion defeating demons in his own realm. It is meaningless in this instance and it has no bearings on this match. Trying to use it as proof of anything in relation to thor is ABC logic. And really i dont understand u. When i take u up on ur claims that orion is as versatile as thor u back out and say u never intended that and yet u keep mentioning feats of orion trying to show his versatility. Where do u stand on the issue? If u bleieve his as versatile then say it so that we can go over this whole thing again.
Originally posted by cloud102
I admited he never turned someone into gas, but has Thor transmuted something into flours? See it balances out. And Fangirl hasn't posted every Orion appearance. He's only covered like half.