Disturbing Mormon Cartoon

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sort of....but it is just another negative misrepresentation of what we believe. Are you jealous because you've been deemed unworthy to go into the sacred parts of our temples? I'm getting this strange feeling that other religions have similar beliefs....

No. What GMG said.

Also, it should be quite obvious that God is racist, for all intents and purposes. Only the levites could hold the priesthood...back in they day. God calls the jews his "chosen people" quite a bit throughout the bible.

Why would I be jealous? I could easily become a Mormon if I wanted, I do work, could give 10% of my income and this magical garments do look comfortable.

Yeah, that it was taught at one point; as early as Joseph Smith.

I suspect that the Jews are the chosen people, because it was the Jews who originally wrote the book/religion. Coincidence? Na.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why Yeah, that it was taught at one point; as early as Joseph Smith.

No, stuff like that was never condoned to be "taught" inside the church.

No, Joe never taught it or said it was from teh lordz.

I'm quite sure that there are plenty of teachers who teach things in other religions that are no accurate to that religion's cannon. It doesn't mean that that is what the church holds as true, though. I inject my own thoughts and interpretations all the time, when I teach...but I admit that it's not the Church's position. Back then, almost everyone was a very new member and they brought in their own former beliefs and philosophies. Those "falsehoods" were corrected as they arose.

Originally posted by Robtard
I suspect that the Jews are the chosen people, because it was the Jews who originally wrote the book/religion. Coincidence? Na.

You do realize that the comment you are replaying to was anti-theistic in nature, don't you?

Joe didn't like the darkies; that's what I'm sticking to.

Was it ever in the book of Mormon, the 'black people were marked' thing?

You do realize that I was following you in your anti'ness.

Originally posted by Robtard
Joe didn't like the darkies; that's what I'm sticking to.

Was it ever in the book of Mormon, the 'black people were marked' thing?

You do realize that I was following you in your anti'ness.

Despite the fact that one of the reasons Mormons were driven out of Missouri was for their slavery stance? Don't forget, Joseph Smith also personally baptized African Americans into the Church. Just because the Mormons didn't give the priesthood to ALL "blacks" doesn't mean that they were not pioneers of equality. Did you know that blacks DID have the priesthood well before the 70s?

Nope. Neither was it in the Doctrine and Covenants. It was an erroneous interpretation of the old testament on Cain.

No, I didn't realize that. I wasn't sure either way, that's why I posed it as a pissy question instead of a statement.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No. You get to ask any and all questions you want. You are encourgaed to read as much as you can. If the question you ask is not known to the missionary you are talking to, you will be referred to someone who does.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I highly doubt they that every single Mormon friends hasn't told you what goes on in the Mormon temple.

In fact, I call B.S. 😆

Originally posted by dadudemon
You just said, earlier, that your wife couldn't go to a marriage ceremony in the temple.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Other than that, it's really just ordinances for the dead. Baptisms, and marriages in proxy for the dead. Oh, and getting children (adopted or otherwise) sealed to their parents. Mormons believe that families are forever. So we get "sealed" to our family members (brothers, sisters, and parents) so when we die, they will be our families in heaven.

That's pretty much everything that goes on. And, any Mormon would tell you that, proudly.

One other thing.
Why do Mormons shun non-Mormons? I have know so many people when their friends (my wife included) that when they convert they shun them and most of the time never speak to them again. If you are a non-Mormon moving into a Mormon community the Mormon kids will not play with yours.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
One other thing.
Why do Mormons shun non-Mormons? I have know so many people when their friends (my wife included) that when they convert they shun them and most of the time never speak to them again. If you are a non-Mormon moving into a Mormon community the Mormon kids will not play with yours.

I've always found Mormons to be nice and rather welcoming people.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I've always found Mormons to be nice and rather welcoming people.

Except when they are funding campaigns to strip minorities of their constitutional rights.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Except when they are funding campaigns to strip minorities of their constitutional rights.

There is that.

You may be interested to understand that the Mormon church has donated none of it's budget and has taken no official stance on Proposition 8. However, there are several church leaders who have abused their theological influence to encourage church members to "fight" for the "protection" of marriage. That problem has not gone unnoticed. There are plenty of Mormons fighting to prevent the church from getting further involved in politics. I have no doubt we'll succeed eventually.

Meanwhile, we'd all appreciate it if you didn't link our politics to our theology!

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
So the black people thing is true?

Obviously, it offends some people.

Oh wait...I suppose the "black people thing" does have more grounding, and that is that black people weren't allowed to hold the priesthood for over a century since the church was founded.

Yeah, it's offensive I guess. I can't give a really good excuse for that problem...sorry.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I may ask but that doesn’t mean that they have to answer. I have had missionaries come to my door and I have asked them several questions that they couldn’t answer and they said they would look it up and get back to me. I have even given them my phone number and email address and not one out of I think 10 that have come to my door have ever responded.

I have seen loads of missionaries do their thing. I have accompanied many sets of missionaries on their meetings with the people they are teaching. I find it hard to believe that 5 sets of missionaries haven't responded to you. Unless you asked them why you can't rape them, they would be so overly zealous to get back to you that it would make you puke.

What kinds of questions did you ask them?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You may call it BS but it is true, even my friend that I had as my Best Man at my wedding has never told me.

It was jest. It was a simple logic deduction and I thought I'd make a joke. It was more like a smart ass, "AHAAA!" moment for fun so you could go, "lol, Oh yeah!"

Originally posted by Da Pittman
And this point is for what?

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You said yourself that your wife could not go to the marriage of a friend because it was in the Mormon temple. The laws of deductive reasoning provide you at least one reason why Mormons go to the temple.

If that was an honest mistake, no worries. If it wasn't and you're just torturing me. EN GUAAAARDE EVIL DOER!

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You are the first to even mention these things to me, I have about 6 good friends that are Mormon and a few others that pay lip service to the religion and not one has ever told me this. So what exactly does “sealed” do and how do you do it

Wow. After 10 missionaries and 6 Mormon friends, you'd think that they would have told you...

In fact, telling you about being sealed to your family forever is part of the basic mission discussion lessons. 😐

The most significant differentiating thing about Mormons is our eternal families. That's one of the big "selling" points about Mormonism. I'm having a hard time believing that you're telling me the truth about your friends. Especially considering that you have gone through 10 missionaries.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
One other thing.
Why do Mormons shun non-Mormons? I have know so many people when their friends (my wife included) that when they convert they shun them and most of the time never speak to them again. If you are a non-Mormon moving into a Mormon community the Mormon kids will not play with yours.

Lies. The lot of it. Especially considering that some Sundays at Church are entirely devoted on how to befriend your non-member neighbors through kindness and service. They call this "member-missionary work". In fact, the mission of every member is three fold.

1. Proclaim the gospel.
2. Perfect the saints.
3. Redeem the dead. (baptisms for the dead, etc.)

Now, if your wife was doing drugs, indulging in gross amounts of porn openly, or doing something else like that, then it would be quite obvious why they would speak to you. Any christian "who has seen the light" will do that. However, from what little I know of your wife through you, she seems like a nice lady. Is it possible that you're blaming Mormonism for something else? Just because they chose Mormonism, doesn't mean that every decision they make is because of that.

I said that that I'm having difficulty believing you not because I think you're lying, only because I can't believe the actions of your "Mormon" friends and missionaries. They act in ways that are directly contradictory to what Mormons are fundamentally recognized as acting.

Do you want to make a wager? I wager a $25 gift card of our choosing(we aren't supposed to gamble...but I am a much more variable Mormon than most in my actions...I'm known to do a service project for someone into the wee hours of the morning....but I also watch rated R movies.) I will record a video of Mormons that walk into church this Sunday and ask them what goes on in the temple, which is right across the parking lot from where our church building is. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority, if not all, will answer with something similar to what I have.

The wager comes in....you'll somehow contact those Mormon friends of yours and record their responses. I'd like to hear or see and hear their responses. If none of them answer similar to the way "my" Mormons answer, I'll mail you the gift card.

Also, this bet is void if they are not active members...meaning that they don't go to church 3 out of 4 Sundays every month. (We will go back as far as jan of this year to keep from getting wack with this.)

Do you agree to this wager?
Also, if you don't feel comfortable with getting our personal addresses to each other for whoever wins, we can go through a proxy...someone on these boards that we both trust enough to mail them the gift card who will then forward the card to the winner. meh, we could work something out.

Now, what about verifiability of the people speaking? I guess we could have them speak their name and then show their temple recommends. I can 100% for sure make good on my end. If can't, then we can just wager on my end. If most of the people on my end don't want to talk about it or don't give answers similar to mine, you win. That's ONLY if you people can't make good on their end, though.

So, hows abouts it?

Originally posted by Quark_666
Oh wait...I suppose the "black people thing" does have more grounding, and that is that black people weren't allowed to hold the priesthood for over a century since the church was founded.

Yeah, it's offensive I guess. I can't give a really good excuse for that problem...sorry.

I covered this already. There were black people who DID have the priesthood before that proclamation. It was random and messy. If I'm not mistaken, Brigham Young was a bigot. Just because they are prophets called of God doesn't mean they are perfect. We can read the bible and discover many weaknesses in the ancient prophets for that evidence. I myself am full of weaknesses.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have seen loads of missionaries do their thing. I have accompanied many sets of missionaries on their meetings with the people they are teaching. I find it hard to believe that 5 sets of missionaries haven't responded to you. Unless you asked them why you can't rape them, they would be so overly zealous to get back to you that it would make you puke.

What kinds of questions did you ask them?

It was jest. It was a simple logic deduction and I thought I'd make a joke. It was more like a smart ass, "AHAAA!" moment for fun so you could go, "lol, Oh yeah!"

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You said yourself that your wife could not go to the marriage of a friend because it was in the Mormon temple. The laws of deductive reasoning provide you at least one reason why Mormons go to the temple.

If that was an honest mistake, no worries. If it wasn't and you're just torturing me. EN GUAAAARDE EVIL DOER!

Wow. After 10 missionaries and 6 Mormon friends, you'd think that they would have told you...

In fact, telling you about being sealed to your family forever is part of the basic mission discussion lessons. 😐

The most significant differentiating thing about Mormons is our eternal families. That's one of the big "selling" points about Mormonism. I'm having a hard time believing that you're telling me the truth about your friends. Especially considering that you have gone through 10 missionaries.

Lies. The lot of it. Especially considering that some Sundays at Church are entirely devoted on how to befriend your non-member neighbors through kindness and service. They call this "member-missionary work". In fact, the mission of every member is three fold.

1. Proclaim the gospel.
2. Perfect the saints.
3. Redeem the dead. (baptisms for the dead, etc.)

Now, if your wife was doing drugs, indulging in gross amounts of porn openly, or doing something else like that, then it would be quite obvious why they would speak to you. Any christian "who has seen the light" will do that. However, from what little I know of your wife through you, she seems like a nice lady. Is it possible that you're blaming Mormonism for something else? Just because they chose Mormonism, doesn't mean that every decision they make is because of that.

I said that that I'm having difficulty believing you not because I think you're lying, only because I can't believe the actions of your "Mormon" friends and missionaries. They act in ways that are directly contradictory to what Mormons are fundamentally recognized as acting.

Do you want to make a wager? I wager a $25 gift card of our choosing(we aren't supposed to gamble...but I am a much more variable Mormon than most in my actions...I'm known to do a service project for someone into the wee hours of the morning....but I also watch rated R movies.) I will record a video of Mormons that walk into church this Sunday and ask them what goes on in the temple, which is right across the parking lot from where our church building is. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority, if not all, will answer with something similar to what I have.

The wager comes in....you'll somehow contact those Mormon friends of yours and record their responses. I'd like to hear or see and hear their responses. If none of them answer similar to the way "my" Mormons answer, I'll mail you the gift card.

Also, this bet is void if they are not active members...meaning that they don't go to church 3 out of 4 Sundays every month. (We will go back as far as jan of this year to keep from getting wack with this.)

Do you agree to this wager?
Also, if you don't feel comfortable with getting our personal addresses to each other for whoever wins, we can go through a proxy...someone on these boards that we both trust enough to mail them the gift card who will then forward the card to the winner. meh, we could work something out.

Now, what about verifiability of the people speaking? I guess we could have them speak their name and then show their temple recommends. I can 100% for sure make good on my end. If can't, then we can just wager on my end. If most of the people on my end don't want to talk about it or don't give answers similar to mine, you win. That's ONLY if you people can't make good on their end, though.

So, hows abouts it?

I covered this already. There were black people who DID have the priesthood before that proclamation. It was random and messy. If I'm not mistaken, Brigham Young was a bigot. Just because they are prophets called of God doesn't mean they are perfect. We can read the bible and discover many weaknesses in the ancient prophets for that evidence. I myself am full of weaknesses.

My wife does not due drugs or anything like that and her “friend” shunned her when she converted to Mormonism, this has happened to so many of my friends that I can’t even count. You say that Mormons do not shun non-members of the church but at least in Arizona I have seen this first hand through my wife, been told about this from friends and family that it has happened to and even been warned about buying a house in a Mormon community if you are not Mormon. I have known some nice Mormons so don’t get me wrong and I have meet some messed up ones as well as with any other religion. This has been my experience with them and from what I have seen first hand.

Many of the questions that I have asked the missionaries are the same ones that I have posted here on this forum, nothing about me wanting to rape them (though some were cute) but normal discussions like I have had here.

You have even not answered the question that I asked you but jumped to this wager thing and doubting what I have said. I asked you specifically what the “sealed” process is and how do you do it.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Interesting proposal I would have to say though I will have to decline, this is not because I was lying or that I’m afraid to give out my address in fact I have it on my damn website for Christ sake. However I will not ask my friends to be video taped and sent over the net to someone that I do not know or trust. You don’t believe me that is fine and dandy but it doesn’t change what I have experience here in Arizona.

Great, I've accounted for that already. I provided an opportunity for a different way of doing this. Is that fine?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
My wife does not due drugs or anything like that and her “friend” shunned her when she converted to Mormonism, this has happened to so many of my friends that I can’t even count.

Lies. She is the underground cult leader of a masturbation religion and you are her primary acolyte.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You say that Mormons do not shun non-members of the church but at least in Arizona I have seen this first hand through my wife, been told about this from friends and family that it has happened to and even been warned about buying a house in a Mormon community if you are not Mormon. I have known some nice Mormons so don’t get me wrong and I have meet some messed up ones as well as with any other religion. This has been my experience with them and from what I have seen first hand.

Strange, really, as that would be the exact opposite behavior that is encouraged among Mormons. You should, seriously, tattle on them. Go out of your way to tell their bishops that they were rude. Make sure to put in there that it doesn't look very good for the LDS religion if the members are shunning the non-member friends and neighbors. You'll, at the very least, get a laugh out of getting them in trouble for being jerks. Their bishops will probably bring them in his office one day, after church, and lecture them on being representatives of Jesus Christ and talk about missionary work.

I assure you that those individuals are acting exactly contrary to what they are taught. One deceased prophet from our church, Spencer W. Kimball, said that if we(Mormons) knew how important it was, we would be running to everyone's house, proclaiming the gospel to those who'd have it and so on.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Many of the questions that I have asked the missionaries are the same ones that I have posted here on this forum, nothing about me wanting to rape them (though some were cute) but normal discussions like I have had here.

Weird. Since I was once a missionary, I know what they are supposed to do and how they are supposed to act. Their actions are exactly opposite of how a missionary is supposed to react. Unless you're leaving something out, every last missionary would have come back to your home.

Unless you were hostile towards them or spewed nothing but anti-Mormon sentiment the entire time, they would most assuredly come back.

Wait, if you've had 5 sets of missionaries come back..........don't you think that they DID come back? Did you know that they change them out, sometimes, every 6 weeks? 5 sets is an awful lot to just be coincidence. If your house was marked as "bad", you would have been visited only once. Unless you tell them not to come back, they may have a record of your visit. It could simply be a mark on a calendar that they visited the *insert your last name here* house on such and such street. They keep those records so they can avoid getting killed by people who threaten to kill the Mormon missionaries and also to follow up on nice people who seem to have "potential". You're probably marked as "potential". You'll probably remain that way unless you tell them not to come back.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You have even not answered the question that I asked you but jumped to this wager thing and doubting what I have said. I asked you specifically what the “sealed” process is and how do you do it.

You act as though I did it deliberately and I am avoiding it. Am I not allowed to have a short attention span? Dude, cut me some slack. 🙁

The answer to your question:

We go into a room, a dude, very similar to any civil ceremony where there is a preacher or priest, does the words for the marriage. We even say "I will" or "I do" or something. One key difference I noticed is it wasn't "until death do you part". It was "for time and eternity". Of course, only worthy church members of our choosing got to go into the "marriage room" with us, and that's where your story comes in of exclusion. Tough luck, man.

Oh yeah, and we had to do a few blood sacrifices to "seal" the marriage.* 😐

I assume that it's something similar for getting your children "sealed" to you, except the words are probably changed around so that it doesn't reference "marriage" but only "sealing" or something.

It is almost exactly the same when you're doing work for the dead. Except, they say "for and in behalf of ____ who is dead" after your name for the proxy sealings, marriages, baptisms, etc.

Oh yeah, and since you're doing work for the dead, you have do more blood sacrifices to seal the deal.* 😐

If you want to know exactly what they say when they do the baptisms in the temple, go to a Mormon baptism. They say the exact same thing except they insert "for and in behalf of *insert deceased person's name here*, who is dead..." I am dead(lol, pun....weeeee!) serious. Nothing really to it.

*Yes. I'm joking. Someone was actually "taught" in their protestant church that Mormons did blood sacrifices in their temples. It took a while to convince him otherwise. Yes, I am serious. Other Christian religions teach shit like that about us all the time. This video is evidence of that. It looks like an early 80s protestant video. The protestants don't like us too much because we call bullshit on their paid clergy. We are literally preventing Mr. Joe Preacher from being able to buy his Bentley because of our existence, at times. Isn't it obvious why so many lies are spread about us? We've been "campaigning" for over 150 years and it has always been just as nasty as the presidential election for all those years. LOL, I'm quite sure that someone at some point has labeled us terrorists with shady associations.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Accidentally found this on youtube, dunno if its been mentioned before. Very interesting, maybe some Mormon members can comment on it, whether it reflects Moromon beliefs for example.

2:23 is an odd view explaining where blacks came from.

This is an old video that distorts much of our views and misstates/misquotes many statements our leaders have made in an attempt to attack the religion that excommunicated the creators of said video.

For a rebuttal to the book the video is based on, follow this link:

The Truth About "The God Makers" - FAIR is an apologetics group made up of members of the LDS Church (i.e. commonly referred to as the Mormons).

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Some early Mormon teachers did propose that yes- however I think you are looking at it out of context. People tried in to justify slavery in many different ways from religious, philosophical, legal and scientific perspectives. It was a huge industry that made lots of money and thus, failure to support it or to come out to strongly against it could get you into lots of trouble.

However, it doesn't reflect modern Mormon thought and is really a silly point dragged up by people to attack a religion they don't understand...

We do in fact believe that the black skin is due to a descent from Cain. We do not believe that the color of the skin was the curse, but merely the result of descent from Cain. Cain was given a mark to separate him from all other people. Given that science suggests that original humans may have been black, I doubt that the "mark" referenced in the scriptures references black skin. If it did, how would people tell Cain from other people that were black?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Great, I've accounted for that already. I provided an opportunity for a different way of doing this. Is that fine?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Lies. She is the underground cult leader of a masturbation religion and you are her primary acolyte.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Strange, really, as that would be the exact opposite behavior that is encouraged among Mormons. You should, seriously, tattle on them. Go out of your way to tell their bishops that they were rude. Make sure to put in there that it doesn't look very good for the LDS religion if the members are shunning the non-member friends and neighbors. You'll, at the very least, get a laugh out of getting them in trouble for being jerks. Their bishops will probably bring them in his office one day, after church, and lecture them on being representatives of Jesus Christ and talk about missionary work.

I assure you that those individuals are acting exactly contrary to what they are taught. One deceased prophet from our church, Spencer W. Kimball, said that if we(Mormons) knew how important it was, we would be running to everyone's house, proclaiming the gospel to those who'd have it and so on.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Weird. Since I was once a missionary, I know what they are supposed to do and how they are supposed to act. Their actions are exactly opposite of how a missionary is supposed to react. Unless you're leaving something out, every last missionary would have come back to your home.

Unless you were hostile towards them or spewed nothing but anti-Mormon sentiment the entire time, they would most assuredly come back.

Wait, if you've had 5 sets of missionaries come back..........don't you think that they DID come back? Did you know that they change them out, sometimes, every 6 weeks? 5 sets is an awful lot to just be coincidence. If your house was marked as "bad", you would have been visited only once. Unless you tell them not to come back, they may have a record of your visit. It could simply be a mark on a calendar that they visited the *insert your last name here* house on such and such street. They keep those records so they can avoid getting killed by people who threaten to kill the Mormon missionaries and also to follow up on nice people who seem to have "potential". You're probably marked as "potential". You'll probably remain that way unless you tell them not to come back.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You act as though I did it deliberately and I am avoiding it. Am I not allowed to have a short attention span? Dude, cut me some slack. 🙁

Originally posted by dadudemon
The answer to your question:

We go into a room, a dude, very similar to any civil ceremony where there is a preacher or priest, does the words for the marriage. We even say "I will" or "I do" or something. One key difference I noticed is it wasn't "until death do you part". It was "for time and eternity". Of course, only worthy church members of our choosing got to go into the "marriage room" with us, and that's where your story comes in of exclusion. Tough luck, man.

Oh yeah, and we had to do a few blood sacrifices to "seal" the marriage.* 😐

I assume that it's something similar for getting your children "sealed" to you, except the words are probably changed around so that it doesn't reference "marriage" but only "sealing" or something.

It is almost exactly the same when you're doing work for the dead. Except, they say "for and in behalf of ____ who is dead" after your name for the proxy sealings, marriages, baptisms, etc.

Oh yeah, and since you're doing work for the dead, you have do more blood sacrifices to seal the deal.* 😐

If you want to know exactly what they say when they do the baptisms in the temple, go to a Mormon baptism. They say the exact same thing except they insert "for and in behalf of *insert deceased person's name here*, who is dead..." I am dead(lol, pun....weeeee!) serious. Nothing really to it.

... "endless celestial sex" ...

🤘

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I don’t know of another way that you spoke of to do your challenge other than video tapping my friends and sending it off to someone on the net. There is no one on this forum that I know well enough to send them a tap of my friends. I’m also not going to go out and ask my friends to video tape them just to prove my statements to some guy that I have never meet, some I haven’t talked too in years.

I also suggested that we could skip your end of it and just make it a measurement of people on my end. I guess I'm not the only one with the short attention span. 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
She is good at hiding that from me. 😱

You should at least encourage her to collect tithing for the "furtherance" of your "religion".

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Well it does seem to happen a lot around here, I know of many people that this has happened too.

Kind of crappy, really. Those actions aren't even Christian-like, let alone the encouraged actions of Mormons.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
This has also been over 20 years, I do remember that there was two kids about 8 years ago that did comeback to give me the Book of Mormon because they ran out but they didn’t answer my question about carbon dating and the age of the Earth. I talked with one guy for about an hour, I never told any of them no to come back except maybe one guy many years ago because he was a bit rude. I’ve lived in many places since then so I don’t see how “blacklisting” me would be an issue and as I have said I have given my email address to those that said they would look it up and get back to me.

Oh, okay. I thought that this was only at one place of yours over the course of like, two or three years. I was thinking that you were in your early thirties.

Here's an entry about some of our beliefs on the "earth"...which is sort of like carbon dating. It is very short, so it won't take long.

http://www.mormonwiki.com/Earth

Actually, some of that information was new to me. I've always stated that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, and man's godly disposition is 6000 years old, and that's it. It would seem that my religion agrees with me, and I was no in error with that belief.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
No I just thought that it was funny since the main point of my argument was that people of your religion didn’t say what went on in there and I asked and you “avoided” the question.

AHA! So you thought I was like your b*tch-ass Arizona Mormons? 😆

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Then what is the difference? Thank you for answering the question by the way.

The men who do those things have the priesthood and the priesthood keys to perform such ordinances. It has to be done by one having authority, in the a dedicated temple, and that "one" has to be righteous enough to do those things. Another major difference is we do work for the dead. That's a very different concept that separates us from others.

Ask a Baptist if a person who isn't baptized and is born again through believing in Christ, if that person will go to heaven. They will, obviously, tell you no. Then ask them if their grandmother was a good person (if she is dead). If they say yes, then ask if she was baptized. If they say no, ask them if you think it's fair that a righteous old lady deserves hell, only because she didn't get the opportunity to be baptized by one having authority.

This little "torture" joke works very effectively on Baptists because they believe so strongly in baptism. (it says that it's a requirement in the new testament...so they're right.)

There's bunches of little word games you can play with protestants like that. Mormons can be quite the smartasses. It's not always about defending our religion from stupid videos like the one posted.

More on the LDS Church history and the Blacks:

Black history and the LDS Church from blacklds.com

Also, as to science:

Discourses of Brigham Young, pp.397, 398
I am not astonished that infidelity prevails to a great extent among the inhabitants of the earth, for the religious teachers of the people advance many ideas and notions for truth which are in opposition to and contradict facts demonstrated by science, and which are generally understood.... In these respects we differ from the Christian world, for our religion will not clash with or contradict the facts of science in any particular.