Disturbing Mormon Cartoon

Originally posted by Regret
Actually, early "Mormons" were opposed to slavery and that was a part of the rationale for the first attempts to stop "Mormon" voters from voting in Missouri.

We do in fact believe that the black skin is due to a descent from Cain. We do not believe that the color of the skin was the curse, but merely the result of descent from Cain. Cain was given a mark to separate him from all other people. Given that science suggests that original humans may have been black, I doubt that the "mark" referenced in the scriptures references black skin. If it did, how would people tell Cain from other people that were black?

Maybe Cain was actually made white?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Maybe Cain was actually made white?

Originally posted by Regret
Maybe, but I wouldn't understand how his progeny was the group that had black skin. We do believe the blacks to be descended from Cain.

You have said that the earliest humans seem to have been black.

You have then said that being black cannot be the mark of Cain otherwise, you wouldn't be able to distinguish Cain's descendents from the other humans.

Therefore, perhaps Cain's people where made white, this would give an adequate "mark of Cain" which we would all be able to identify...

Thus, it is likely that Satan has corrupted your teachings and turned things in favour of Cain's cursed people...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
You have said that the earliest humans seem to have been black.

You have then said that being black cannot be the mark of Cain otherwise, you wouldn't be able to distinguish Cain's descendents from the other humans.

Therefore, perhaps Cain's people where made white, this would give an adequate "mark of Cain" which we would all be able to identify...

Thus, it is likely that Satan has corrupted your teachings and turned things in favour of Cain's cursed people...

I believe that the original people were possibly mixed in skin tone, perhaps Adam and Eve were not of the same racial origin. A mixed color marriage.

Originally posted by Regret
No, I stated that Cain's mark could not have been black skin, because you would not be able to distinguish Cain himself from his own descendants. The mark was given so that man could distinguish Cain himself from all other people, black or white or whatever.

I believe that the original people were possibly mixed in skin tone, perhaps Adam and Eve were not of the same racial origin. A mixed color marriage.

It wasn't black skin so it could have been WHITE!

Also, we should note only the CJCLDS and Mormon Fundamentalists excludd (and continue to exclude) blacks from the priesthood...

The other Later Day Saint movement churches have always allowed blacks to become priests...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
It wasn't black skin so it could have been WHITE!

Also, we should note only the CJCLDS and Mormon Fundamentalists excludd (and continue to exclude) blacks from the priesthood...

The other Later Day Saint movement churches have always allowed blacks to become priests...

Although, Elijah Abel was given the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods in 1836. And, if the records are accurate, Joseph Smith himself ordained him.

Given this, I do not know why the blacks did not receive the priesthood for a period, we have no recorded rationale for not giving them the priesthood. Blacks in the LDS Church have been able to receive the priesthood since 1978.

However, if you are suggesting racism, the Bible itself shows racial favoritism. If this were a sufficient evidence to deny the LDS religion, it would be sufficient evidence to deny any Biblically based religion, as well as the majority of other religions. Unless I am not remembering an instance, Buddhism may be the only religion that I can think of without a racial issue in its past.

Originally posted by Regret
True.

Although, Elijah Abel was given the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods in 1836. And, if the records are accurate, Joseph Smith himself ordained him.

Given this, I do not know why the blacks did not receive the priesthood for a period, we have no recorded rationale for not giving them the priesthood. Blacks in the LDS Church have been able to receive the priesthood since 1978.

However, if you are suggesting racism, the Bible itself shows racial favoritism. If this were a sufficient evidence to deny the LDS religion, it would be sufficient evidence to deny any Biblically based religion, as well as the majority of other religions. Unless I am not remembering an instance, Buddhism may be the only religion that I can think of without a racial issue in its past.

I would dispute your pathetically ill informed claim that the Bible supports racism...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I would dispute your pathetically ill informed claim that the Bible supports racism...

Israel commits genocide while migrating from Egypt to Israel. It is against the religion to marry a non-Israelite. Christ himself tells his disciples that they are to go to the Jews first and then the other races. Ishmael upsets Abraham, and his descendants are persecuted by Israel the rest of the Bible. And that's just for starters.

I do not believe it was racism, but then, I also do not believe the LDS Church ever behaved in a racist manner either. The Bible has more racially motivated commentary than any other religious book I have read.

Originally posted by Regret
Please 🙄

Israel commits genocide while migrating from Egypt to Israel. It is against the religion to marry a non-Israelite. Christ himself tells his disciples that they are to go to the Jews first and then the other races. Ishmael upsets Abraham, and his descendants are persecuted by Israel the rest of the Bible. And that's just for starters.

I do not believe it was racism, but then, I also do not believe the LDS Church ever behaved in a racist manner either. The Bible has more racially motivated commentary than any other religious book I have read.

Your theology is lacking I see...

God made a covenant with the Jewish people- which he kept- which was designed to create a society suitable for the delivery of the messiah...

Everything from its Kings (the line of David) to its religious organization was a perfect construction for Jesus' arrival.

And the reward? ETERNAL SALVATION for all peoples.

Jews first? Depends on what you think he meant, perhaps it was a reward for their following God's laws (albeit imperfectly) or perhaps the conversion attempts of the Jews was pragmatic- needed to provide a basis for the future expansion. Ofcourse there is also Paul, it was his mission to convert the Gentiles...

Also, the great commission tells us that "people of all nations" were to be baptised- indiscriminate of race.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Your theology is lacking I see...

God made a covenant with the Jewish people- which he kept- which was designed to create a society suitable for the delivery of the messiah...

Everything from its Kings (the line of David) to its religious organization was a perfect construction for Jesus' arrival.

And the reward? ETERNAL SALVATION for all peoples.

Jews first? Depends on what you think he meant, perhaps it was a reward for their following God's laws (albeit imperfectly) or perhaps the conversion attempts of the Jews was pragmatic- needed to provide a basis for the future expansion. Ofcourse there is also Paul, it was his mission to convert the Gentiles...

Also, the great commission tells us that "people of all nations" were to be baptised- indiscriminate of race.

So the "appearance" of racism in the Bible was not truly racism, simply perceived as such 😉

Originally posted by Regret
So the "appearance" of racism in the Bible was not truly racism, simply perceived as such 😉

Only if your uneducated in Biblical Studies...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Only if your uneducated in Biblical Studies...

Originally posted by Regret
I agree, and the same principle holds true with the perception of racism in the LDS church by those not in the LDS Church, or in your words "uneducated in" LDS Studies.

As I stated, in my original posts about distortions and fabrications contained in the video and general anti-latterdaysaintism.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
As I stated, in my original posts about distortions and fabrications contained in the video and general anti-latterdaysaintism.

I'm sure that this thread should be merged with the other Mormon thread.

Anyway, GMG, I actually laughed out loud at your posts. I just assumed you were joking with your arrogant comments, which is why I laughed. If you were serious, damn bro, that's harsh.

I already said Jesus is racist (in jest), however, since I actually hold the priesthood, I'm right. Even so, amen. See how that works? 😄

Originally posted by Regret
Yes 🙂 I merely led you along that direction of the conversation to reach this point.

hmm

a lead on...tasty 😉

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm sure that this thread should be merged with the other Mormon thread.

Anyway, GMG, I actually laughed out loud at your posts. I just assumed you were joking with your arrogant comments, which is why I laughed. If you were serious, damn bro, that's harsh.

I already said Jesus is racist (in jest), however, since I actually hold the priesthood, I'm right. Even so, amen. See how that works? 😄

Sounds like Popery to me!

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Sounds like Popery to me!

I still think anal is probably better than celestial sex

Not possible.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Not possible.

Celestial Anal?