Originally posted by DolX1
Goku just got back from his farm, looked in the back and his dragon was gone. Has anyone seen his dragon? lol
Im going to add on to that quote! It's like Hercule said, it was the "trick" that got him. He had to stay on top of his "tricks" to make ends meet for his family! (If you know what I mean!)
Who would have thought that the strongest man in the DBZ world would turn
out to be such a lame father. Well... it's true.
Looks like fighting and raising children are two different things, and
Goku chose fighting of the two. Let's consider him as an "absent father".
I won't say that he doesn't love his two boys, Gohan and Goten. But let's
review both cases, shall we?
First we have Gohan. This guy was mostly raised by Chi Chi and Piccolo
(fortunately for him). Mostly forced to study during 90% of the day, except
when the new enemy of the week showed up. Actually, I think fighting is the
only thing Goku helps him with. Besides that, nothing else can be added.
Then we have Goten. Looks like he suffered from the same kind of
abandonment his older brother did. He didn't even knew who his father was
until he was six. Okay, so Goku was dead at the time. But take a look at
this; Goku temporally came back to enter the martial arts Budokai. He
could've asked to see his nearly born son during his birthday, but noooooo,
he had to ask to come back to Earth for a "fighting tournament" instead.
See how his priorities are set?
Hmmm....lesse her. I'm going only by memory so I might be wrong on a few things.
Him being dead like twice serves as a valid excuse for the time away from his family. The Yadrat stuff, while questionable, is actually understandable. I don't think they ever talked about how long it took to master Instant Transmission and he may as well just take the pod back. Sure it takes longer but more dramatic.
Him giving Cell a Senzu bean was stupid but he was not the only one to be dropping the ball during that Saga. Goku had seen Gohan's true power so he had no real reason not to think he wouldn't use it and simply didn't think Gohan would be so pacifistic. And Gohan was being a bit of a pussy so I don't blame him. Cell did far more shit than Frieza did to his friends but Gohan doesn't explode until 16, someone he doesn't really know, dies? 🤨
As for Goten, he never knew the kid and had like one day to spend with him. He embraced him and crap I guess but he only had so little time so it's not like he could spend the whole day with his kids and leave the others alone. Not that kinda guy. They met at a tournament, near as I can tell, because they all like to fight. And hell, old times sake right? Letting them die from Kid Buu might be questionable, but Death Is Cheap. And by saving Dende and Hercule, he saved everyone! So it all worked out.
So, nah, I don't consider him a bad parent per se. A bad husband perhaps but Chi Chi isn't the most stellar wife so they're perfect I guess. Besides, he saved his kids life like several times so I can't call that a bad parent. And the kids and Pan seem to adore him so he must be pretty kind offscreen or something.
Originally posted by Csdabest
1. Let his son get drunk
2. Let his son miss tons of school
3. Let his son almost get killed
4. Let his son go to namek by himself
5. Left him fatherless for years to come
6. At the end of GT left his son to do Goku.
7. Bitched Slapped Chichi into a house
8. Let him hang around master rochimany the list goes on
For #7, he was unaware of his strength. He didn't mean to put that much stength into that hit. Now he has been seen hitting Gohan, when Gohan was going to challenge Cell recklessly after Piccolo took a blast to his chest, Goku chose to punch Gohan to keep him from going to Cell so he didnt get himself killed.
okay people. Goku's not a bad father. but he's not a good one either. if you look back to the hyberbolic time chamber you'll remeber that gohan stated he was too gentle as piccolo said earler in the series. forcing goku to push gohan to hislimits and in in the cell games goku told his friends that they didn't see what he saw which proves he wad not planning it from the beginnig butlater decided. plus do you remeber the second broly movie he came to help goten. also when things get too serious tells his sons to go away.and sometimes even his friends. remeber the ginyu force or frieza or any of the movies gohan was always cornered and goku came the rescue
Goku's an warrior alien. Our values don't matter. Saiyans have the strength and longetivity to survive most things. A Saiyan that doesn't fight isn't alive. That's why Chi Chi was such a good character in the show. A human mother freaking the heck out at her son being thrown at monsters.
Goku did what he had to do.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Goku's an warrior alien. Our values don't matter. Saiyans have the strength and longetivity to survive most things. A Saiyan that doesn't fight isn't alive. That's why Chi Chi was such a good character in the show. A human mother freaking the heck out at her son being thrown at monsters.Goku did what he had to do.
Vegeta is a better father than Goku.
... King Vegeta was a better father than Goku.
... King Cold was a better father than Goku.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He gave Cell a Senzu Bean before Cell fought Gohan, so that Cell would strong enough to force Gohan to unleash his true power because he wanted Gohan to take over as "Earth's protector". Only though actual combat and a real need to protect could Gohan finally unlock that potential. Goku was being a very wise and mature father, at that moment. The exact opposite of a bad father.
I agree.
Goku is not a bad father. Otherwise, his children wouldn't respect him so. I remember how happy Gohan was everytime he saw Goku. And it isn't true that Goku never hugged his children. He hugged Gohan in the first part of DBZ after he ended up on that tree-branch over the waterfall. I remember how angry and frustrated he was when Raditz took Gohan. He also hugged Gohan in the Buu saga, before Gohan took of to fight Super Buu. He also hugged Goten before he went back to the world of the Dead. When they were hospitalized, he looked at Gohan with a serious, and even a bit angry expression, when Gohan told Bulma and Krilin to take him with them. He let him go because Gohan insisted on going. And he thought that Gohan really got stronger. By that i mean not a spoiled crybaby anymore. In the part where Goku "played"with the glass full of water, after ChiChi went somewhere talking about Gohan, he looked really concerned about him too. He took off to Namek immediately, when he found out that they got in danger. There are a lot more of these "small parts"that show that Goku is a good father, even if he's not around that much. He loves his family and cares about them. He puts up with ChiChi's screamingallthetime thing and is really gentle to her. I think if Vegeta would be with her, he would just slap her into the wall or something 🙂. Well i wrote quite a bit here, so i guess i should stop.
Oh and about that Cell thing. I don't think he would make Gohan fight him, if Gohan would've told him that he doesn't want to fight. He told that WHILE fighting. And in the room of Spirit and time he only told Goku to train him more. He didn't want to rest. Goku isn't psychic or anything to tell that Gohan doesn't like to fight. He just thought that since Gohan is half Sayan, he got to like fighting as well as him. And he wanted Gohan to even surpass him. He told it himself: "I want you to surpass me. It is my Ideal." He let Gohan fight because he saw alot of potential in him and he trusted him. Gohan would have defeated Cell, but he got too carried away and played around to long, that was also mentioned in the series. That's why Goku had to go blow himself up with Cell. And when Cell came back to life, Gohan was too tired to keep fighting at the same level with Cell. But he still defeated Cell, because Goku talked to him and showed him that He believes in him.
And i think that Believing in your children and bringing out their inner potential is a feature of good parents. Chichi brought out his potential in learning, While Goku did it in Fighting, because that's what he's best at.
There. Now that's really it. 😄
Goku was not a model father, no, but I wouldn't say he's a bad one. He loved his kids, and something that could be considered even more fatherly, if the series wasn't about badass warriors fighting super strong evil guys to save the world, is that he believed in them. He believed that Gohan could defeat Cell, a lot of kids don't get that obvious admission of faith from their fathers.
That being said, one should always remember this fact: Goku is stupid.
Oh, and the smacking of Chichi is very obviously not a conscious thing. He was going for a playful tap on her arm or something, and because he's a moron, he didn't realize he put too much power behind it. That and it's obviously being played for laughs.