Originally posted by Zack Fair
I was under the impression Magneto was Alpha...so Xavier is an Omega too? Ugh How many fricking Omegas are there? Fricking Xbooks.
Nope. He was rejuvenated by Alpha (the mutant), hence him looking younger than what he is...
But I mean, he's got total control over the electromagnetic spectrum...one of the four fundamental Forces. He's even been shown (in one of the early Excalibur issues) to rend spacetime itself (wormholes.) So...yeah. Omega level. 😛
Originally posted by Enyalusmainstream superman simply has more feats - a lot more. that's why i'd place him over A/S, personally. i was just throwing my opinion out there as to why A/S might be perceived as stronger than mainstream supes, by some.
My opinion is that current Superman is stronger than AS Superman...I have reasons if anyone would like to hear them sometime.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Nope. He was rejuvenated by Alpha (the mutant), hence him looking younger than what he is...But I mean, he's got total control over the electromagnetic spectrum...one of the four fundamental Forces. He's even been shown (in one of the early Excalibur issues) to rend spacetime itself (wormholes.) So...yeah. Omega level. 😛
So is Magneto more powerful now, than he was when he lifted Asteroid M?
Originally posted by Galan007
mainstream superman simply has more strength feats - a lot more. that's why i'd place him over A/S, personally. i was just throwing my opinion out there as to why A/S might be perceived as stronger than mainstream supes, by some.
All Star lifted 40 quintillion tons with one arm, I have my doubts about mainstream Supes being stronger than him, but who can tell right?
Originally posted by Stoic
All Star lifted 40 quintillion tons with one arm, I have my doubts about mainstream Supes being stronger than him, but who can tell right?
It was 200 quintillion tons, as Galan already said.
And uh, I wasn't aware Magneto got any "upgrades." Omega is Omega is Omega. He was Omega when lifting Asteroid M back in 1964 and is now, too.
EDIT: Hm...Forgot about The Collective arc. Wonder if he kept that boost.
Magneto would win this. While Superman is easily one of the physically strongest beings in the DC universe, and he has many ridiculous feats of strength, Magneto's power has no limits to what it can lift. Magnetism isn't something that has a limit to what it can lift, the stronger the magnet, the more it lifts, there is no cut off. Magneto could lift multiple planet sized metal objects thanks to his control over this force.
Supes, unfortunately, is limited by his tissues' upper limit. Unless he sundipped to become stronger he has a limit to his strength.
Originally posted by Stoicpersonally, i don't really like debating A/S supes in a "vs." type setting too much. the series itself was so good that arguing him tends to take focus off that series (which is where all the focus should be.) it's kind of like debating v, from v for vendetta. meh.
All Star lifted 40 quintillion tons with one arm, I have my doubts about mainstream Supes being stronger than him, but who can tell right?
anyhow, morrison knew he only had 12 issues to make A/S shine, and he used pretty much every iota of page space to do so - and quite well i might add. however, he just doesn't have the plethora of high-end feats mainstream superman has. that's why i wouldn't place A/S above him, overall. just my opinion.