Again with the Susanoo crap? Sasuke spent like 5 minutes explaining his stupid technique, giving Itachi plenty of time to prepare.
Then we see the lightning bolt forming into some weird animal shape before it strikes, giving even more time.
We never see the bolt while in transit towards Itachi when Itachi has not activated the Susanoo.
Even if he does activate it, so what? Raditz would blast right through it, because Kirin is shit next to Raditz's attacks
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Again with the Susanoo crap? Sasuke spent like 5 minutes explaining his stupid technique, giving Itachi plenty of time to prepare.Then we see the lightning bolt forming into some weird animal shape before it strikes, giving even more time.
We never see the bolt while in transit towards Itachi when Itachi has not activated the Susanoo.
Even if he does activate it, so what? Raditz would blast right through it, because Kirin is shit next to Raditz's attacks
I am inclined to agree.
As Leon pointed out, claiming that Susano can block anything is the infinite logical fallacy. There has to be a limit. Inside the Naruto-verse, the limit is out of range for those characters.
However, we have yet to see Susano block a full 9-tails blast, which would be large enough, imo, to destroy a city. Surely that approaches the limit of Susano. Also, Raditz could simply control his fire to go around Susano as Susuano does not have infinite velocity, as we know that to be an impossibility for matter or energy....unless you're using Madara's space time jutsu. Raditz could fire two shots, simultaneously, and make them approach from opposite sides. Susano would only be able to block one and the other would impact Itachi. The end.
Radditz is weak, whats gonna happen when he turns his attention to Madara? I mean what is the scenario? Do people actually believe Radditz could beat every one in the Narutoverse at once or has the thread turned in to Radditz vs certain character / technique?
Shikimaru and Naruto could easily kill him. Radditz isn't the smartest guy so Shikimaru could stay hidden and trap him in shadow bind where naruto easily kills him with wind rasengan. There are so many ways Radditz would lose this and fast.
Originally posted by Magee
Radditz is weak, whats gonna happen when he turns his attention to Madara? I mean what is the scenario? Do people actually believe Radditz could beat every one in the Narutoverse at once or has the thread turned in to Radditz vs certain character / technique?Shikimaru and Naruto could easily kill him. Radditz isn't the smartest guy so Shikimaru could stay hidden and trap him in shadow bind where naruto easily kills him with wind rasengan. There are so many ways Radditz would lose this and fast.
Because Raditz can't find him by tracking his energy? Assuming that there is an equivalence rule here going with ki = chakra. Not like it's going to help since Raditz can take down Shikamaru and Naruto before they even have time to react,
Have you actually read Dragon Ball, and seen Raditz's feats? Compared to the Naruto universe, Raditz >>>>>>>> Narutoverse
Originally posted by Magee
Radditz is weak, whats gonna happen when he turns his attention to Madara? I mean what is the scenario? Do people actually believe Radditz could beat every one in the Narutoverse at once or has the thread turned in to Radditz vs certain character / technique?Shikimaru and Naruto could easily kill him. Radditz isn't the smartest guy so Shikimaru could stay hidden and trap him in shadow bind where naruto easily kills him with wind rasengan. There are so many ways Radditz would lose this and fast.
Not to mention that the stronger the person, the harder it is for Shiki to shadowbind or shadow bind choke.
In fact, Shiki would deploy his technique and Raditz would continue to walk towards him, completely unaffected, while laughing. He'd say, "wow, that kind of tickles" or something smartass like that.
Originally posted by Gu HonseYour assumption is wrong, chakra is not Ki and if you really want to go down that road then Radditz fails even harder as soon as he looks at any sharingan user. You're looking at this from a far to simple perspective.
Because Raditz can't find him by tracking his energy? Assuming that there is an equivalence rule here going with ki = chakra. Not like it's going to help since Raditz can take down Shikamaru and Naruto before they even have time to react,Have you actually read Dragon Ball, and seen Raditz's feats? Compared to the Naruto universe, Raditz >>>>>>>> Narutoverse
Originally posted by dadudemonYea theres no way to prove such a thing happening, I'm confident it would hold Radditz long enough for Naruto to hit him. That was just one scenario to show that being faster and stronger does not mean you automatically win a fight, especially against hundreds of people with a wide variety of exotic techniques.
Not to mention that the stronger the person, the harder it is for Shiki to shadowbind or shadow bind choke.In fact, Shiki would deploy his technique and Raditz would continue to walk towards him, completely unaffected, while laughing. He'd say, "wow, that kind of tickles" or something smartass like that.
What did Radditz ever do that would put him miles above the top tiers in Narutoverse? He is being seriously over estimated in this scenario.
Originally posted by Magee
Yea theres no way to prove such a thing happening,
Yeah, except that it did happen.
Any person with more than average physical strength for a ninja, gave Shiki a hard time.
Tsunade, who is the physically strongest character, we can assume by feats, doesn't even compare to Raditz.
Here's why: Goky is seen carrying a HUGE tree to his house, with ease. He is dragging it on the ground.
Tsundae swung that huge ass sword. Similar size but the tree probably weighs tens of tons more.
Then we have Raditz who is more than 3 times as powerful as Goku.
Goku is stronger than Tsunade, easily. Raditz is much stronger than Goku.
Strong characters can break the Shadow technique.
Logic dictates that someone who greatly outclasses anyone in all of Naruto, in pure strength, would shrug off an attack. We are talking ants versus a giant.
Originally posted by Magee
I'm confident it would hold Radditz long enough for Naruto to hit him.
1. You can have that opinion, but it is wrong.
2. Naruto hitting him would do nothing. He would just stand there and laugh as Naruto broke his fists against Raditz body.
Originally posted by Magee
That was just one scenario to show that being faster and stronger does not mean you automatically win a fight, especially against hundreds of people with a wide variety of exotic techniques.
But it does mean you win a fight when you're absurdly stronger and faster than everyone who is fighting you.
The only ninja fast enough to escape a Raditz blast would be Madara.
I'd like to see Madara try to to even hurt Raditz when even a sword.
Originally posted by Magee
Your assumption is wrong, chakra is not Ki and if you really want to go down that road then Radditz fails even harder as soon as he looks at any sharingan user. You're looking at this from a far to simple perspective.
I never said that it was. I said that assuming that it was if the anime versus forums goes by the equivalence rules, then he could simply track him with his scouter.
Originally posted by Magee Yea theres no way to prove such a thing happening, I'm confident it would hold Radditz long enough for Naruto to hit him. That was just one scenario to show that being faster and stronger does not mean you automatically win a fight, especially against hundreds of people with a wide variety of exotic techniques.What did Radditz ever do that would put him miles above the top tiers in Narutoverse? He is being seriously over estimated in this scenario.
Not like it's going to matter since Shikamaru wouldn't be able to catch Radits with him being faster than Shikamaru can react to, and taking him down afterwards without a problem.
Aside from destroying mountains with generic ki blasts with energy to spare afterwards, taking on both Goku and Piccolo Post 23rd Budokai, who are both above the Narutoverse in power, speed, etc.
If anything, you're underestimating Raditz.
Ok, first off, I would point out that Chakra is actually a form Ki, all living things posess it. Chakra is a term used to designate specific types of Ki, but overall all life energies are under the umbrella of Ki, or another word being Chi.
Second, Raditz, posessing absuredly high level capabilities in comparison to the opposition, he wins in any scenario currently being presented.... If this starts out as a all vs 1 at the same time, Raditz is going to launch a big explosive attack to wipe them out ASAP.... They get slaughtered all together.
If we go on the world wide hunting scenario, Raditz's scouter considerably improves his capabilities of finding them. And then speedblitzes or vapourises most in short order. I can't think of any who can one on one him for very long unless he lets them.
Originally posted by Gu Honse
Not like it's going to matter since Shikamaru wouldn't be able to catch Radits with him being faster than Shikamaru can react to, and taking him down afterwards without a problem.
Thats a dumb thing to say - have you ever actually watched one of Shikamaru's fight? He never catches someone in his shadow possession because he's faster.