Wolverine vs Sebastian Shaw

Originally posted by jrodslam
So just so im clear. As long as Shaw constantly gets hit, his strength will always continue to multiply. EVEN when hes surpassed his opponent in strength, durability, etc?

So for example, if Captain America continues to puch Shaw in the face, he can eventually gain 100cl strength? Even if a 13 yr old hits him, the results are the same?

If so, i find that very interesting. Especially considering once he gets enough energy, his durability increases, so the hits from someone a much lower lvl than him shouldnt even effect him in the slightest. If thats the case, his strength should increase just by him walking. Yes?

Something seems flawed.

Don't know iff his strenght would multiply don't think it would go that fast.
Like I said a strong person would give him a much more energy than a weak one.

Well you have to keep in mind that wolverine has some razor sharp claws, that seemd to do some damage to him since we saw some blood comming from the back.
So don't know how his durability increase is wenn he's being punched.
For example iff a 5 year old would punch you it wouldn't do much, but give the kid a knife and let him stable you the results are very diffrent.
The only question would be iff shaw could become durable enough that he couldn't be stabbed or cut by wolverine and does anybody really know that?

This fight Shaws not full with energy right so his durability is still pretty low, iff wolverine would start to slash and stab Shaw from the beginning wouldn't he drop from the lose of blood or couldn't wolverine kill him by stabbing his heart or eye's or head?

Well think about it in terms of energy. Say every punch contained 250KJ of energy. Everytime it connects 150kJ is lost as heat and sound and 100kJ is kinetic. Regardless of how strong Shaw is he'll still be absorbing 100kJ after each punch...so his energy absorption rate really depends on how fast and hard he's being hit.

Logan stabs would produces far less energy to shaw then the dmaage shaw would receive.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan stabs would produces far less energy to shaw then the dmaage shaw would receive.

See that's my problem aswell let's say Shaw fight's someone like cage for example he would get much more energy and far less injury's than wenn he fight's someone like wolverine who has blades on his hands or knife's.
I mean the damage he would get would be far worse than wenn he get's it from a powerhouse now wouldn't it???
Wouldn't that mean that Shaw could bleed to death?

Originally posted by Brutacus
See that's my problem aswell let's say Shaw fight's someone like cage for example he would get much more energy and far less injury's than wenn he fight's someone like wolverine who has blades on his hands or knife's.
I mean the damage he would get would be far worse than wenn he get's it from a powerhouse now wouldn't it???
Wouldn't that mean that Shaw could bleed to death?

I can also see wolverine cut out his eye's or something.
Does Shaw have some kind of healing ability???
Can he regrow stuff wenn he's full of energy?

Nope not that ive ever read.

Judging by Shaw's appearance in Origins #30 Logan did indeed run from Shaw.

Originally posted by Brutacus
See that's my problem aswell let's say Shaw fight's someone like cage for example he would get much more energy and far less injury's than wenn he fight's someone like wolverine who has blades on his hands or knife's.
I mean the damage he would get would be far worse than wenn he get's it from a powerhouse now wouldn't it???
Wouldn't that mean that Shaw could bleed to death?

shaw's power also absorbs the energy applied to him bladed weaponry.
shaw's upper limit of continuous kinetic bombardment seems to be around the same force that cyclops' optic blast can deliver, even though that is a f***ing lot, gigantically more so than the force most people can exert on knives.

the thing is that logan's adamantium blades are super sharp and will remain so for ... i guess forever, but they still need to be pushed into their opponent. the super sharpness sort of helps compensate for the absorbed kinetic energy (which actually makes shaw more durable to further cuts later) so the blades can partially cut his skin.

imo, logan can't fatally cut shaw since the majority of the force would be lost.

sabretooth could probably do more damage to shaw since he packs more punch with his strength. logan's claws are sharper but his strength is only slightly superhuman. sabretooth on the other hand has at least class 15 strength, his claws are weaker than logan's but the force behind them is far greater, i think he could get shaw to bleed a lot.

Did anybody pick up Origins #30? I just skimmed it at the shop and Shaw appears at the end of the issue and he looks fine.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Did anybody pick up Origins #30? I just skimmed it at the shop and Shaw appears at the end of the issue and he looks fine.

Yep, he is, then he enters the room and is about to smash Xavier's head in with a rock, he is stabbed in the back by Daken, sucker kicked out of the window and falls down to some rocks. His powers most definitely saved him from that fall.

So would it be safe to assume Logan ran from Shaw when he cut the lights out?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yep, he is, then he enters the room and is about to smash Xavier's head in with a rock, he is stabbed in the back by Daken, sucker kicked out of the window and falls down to some rocks. His powers most definitely saved him from that fall.

I just read it and it doesn't seem like Daken was able to properly draw blood :/

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So would it be safe to assume Logan ran from Shaw when he cut the lights out?

Considering that's how I interpreted the previous issue I'd say so. I mean the fact that Shaw is still alive says it all. Had Wolverine won he would have killed Shaw just like he killed the Inner Circle.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
I just read it and it doesn't seem like Daken was able to properly draw blood :/

Just looked at it again, that's true he didn't. It did go at least 1/3rd deep in though.

Well I thought Logan fled also but now it's obvious he did. Plus Logan was saying something about Shaw not being able to hunt in the dark.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Judging by Shaw's appearance in Origins #30 Logan did indeed run from Shaw.

Haven't picked it up yet but if his clothes aren't torn or anything then I think its safe to say that we were right.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Considering that's how I interpreted the previous issue I'd say so. I mean the fact that Shaw is still alive says it all. Had Wolverine won he would have killed Shaw just like he killed the Inner Circle.

Just looked at it again, that's true he didn't. It did go at least 1/3rd deep in though.

Hurry and provide me with the scans that I so desire.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Haven't picked it up yet but if his clothes aren't torn or anything then I think its safe to say that we were right.

Hurry and provide me with the scans that I so desire.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

You're the man now dawg!

.....why does shaw apeare to be struggling to pick up such a small rock?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.....why does shaw apeare to be struggling to pick up such a small rock?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no NO!

We are not going to do that. Nope not even going to justify that with a response. Face it, Wolverine lost.