Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No, no, no, no, no, no, no NO!We are not going to do that. Nope not even going to justify that with a response. Face it, Wolverine lost.
oh please you trying to tell me it took a healthy unharmed shaw an entire issue to reach a house 30 feet away from him?
and that Logan would allow him self to be helpless with shaw running around?
and that shaw normally struggles to lift such small rocks?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
oh please you trying to tell me it took a healthy unharmed shaw an entire issue to reach a house 30 feet away from him?and that Logan would allow him self to be helpless with shaw running around?
and that shaw normally struggles to lift such small rocks?
Didn't struggle to lift a rock.
You are wrong on so many levels. I'm so sure that Shaw had the time to go to his room, take a shower, heal any stab wounds and put on another suit. That must be why he seems so fine.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wolverine knew he couldn't beat Shaw so he just cut the lights out and ran. That's pretty much how it went down.
Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Where do you see him struggle?
Originally posted by Mindset
He's not, it doesn't even show him lifting it, it just shows when it's over his head.
What you three need to realize is that when your name Battlehammer that means that you can't accept the truth when your precious Wolverine loses to someone who isn't insanely powerful.
Oh please I don't care that shaw beat him, hell there many people less powerful then shaw who would defeat him.
I simply find it odd it took shaw two ahnds to lift a small rock...........when during his fight with wolverine he wa spushing levels well beyond that.
I also find it even more odd that it took shaw an entire issue to get 30 feet.........
I even find it wierder that if wolverine ran why would he not say something to prof x about the fact shaw likly to show up and there all defenseless..........just does not add up.
It's written by Way, if you are surprised by plot wholes and inconsistencies you must not have read the last 30 issues very thoroughly. 😄
That said, this was a huge step up in quality for Origins compared to whats come before... even though it still felt like one or two issues worth of material stretched over six books.
If Wolverine had run from Shaw he wouldn't have said "You don't hunt in the dark," and we wouldn't have seen Shaw's "Oh ****" face. Shaw had his cloths back in top shape for the same reason Wolverine did, both artists likely had drawn this issues long ago without collaborating. Don't forget how far in advance these issues are done in order to get them printed and shipped on time, I read an interview with the Spider-man editor that was asking how they deal with fan reaction, and he said there isn't much they can do since they are working on the stuff for March right now (and I read it months ago).
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So are we all in agreement Logan ran?
Does it matter what we agree on???
I mean iff they don't show it in the comic how do we know what happend to shaw and wolverine?
It's not like we can vote on it and iff most people vote logan did run he really did that.
I mean some do have a point that wenn logan cut the lights out.
He did ask something like iff Shaw could hunt by smell or something.
Does that mean he run to proffesor X so they could get out of that mansion in time before Shaw found them?
Or did he found some way of dealing with Shaw for a short period of time even iff there shouldn't be a way for him to K.O. him.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Logan Ran!!!! He knew Shaw was strong enough to catch him with a punch and K.O. him. He can be one shotted. Punch-Out from the Press Gang one-shotted Logan.
Uhhhhhhhhh no she didn't. 😕
Shaw showed up with his uniform intact so Wolverine must have ran from? Wolverine showed up with his uniform intact also but it was torn to sherds at the end of the last issue, but clearly a fight took place... I mean... we saw it happen.
Wolverine cut the power and said "You don't hunt by smell." Why would he say this if it was plan to cut the power and run from Shaw? Why did we see Shaw's "Oh shit face"? Wolverine stated the blood on his uniform wasn't his own, which would make it Shaws (unless we want to speculate that he was in some unmentioned fight off panel with someone completely different, which, quite frankly is ridiculous.) The only thing that suggests Wolverine ran from Shaw is that Shaw looked 100% when he showed up... but so did Wolverine... and we saw what he looked like at the end of the last issue.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine cut the power and said "You don't hunt by smell." Why would he say this if it was plan to cut the power and run from Shaw?
uhhh that makes perfect sense
since Logan knew that Shaw can't track through smell, he cut the power so Shaw has no way of locating Logan and Logan can make his getaway
Originally posted by Starscream M
uhhh that makes perfect sensesince Logan knew that Shaw can't track through smell, he cut the power so Shaw has no way of locating Logan and Logan can make his getaway
Except he didn't say "You don't track by smell" he said "you don't hunt by smell," which has completely different connonatitons that any writer would be well aware of.
Wolverine explains that he knows that everytime he hits Shaw, he gets stronger, but Shaw doesn't hunt by smell. Why does he say this? Because Wolverine does hunt by smell. If they weren't going to fight, why would he cut the power? Cutting the power to a single flood light would be meaningless. Darkness is only beneficial to Wolverine if he was intending to continue battling Shaw in the dark.
I mean... It's Shaws property. He has the home field advatage. Wolverine cut the power to a single flood light in his yard. We saw that the power was still on inside his mansion. You seriously want to take the postion that Wolverines plan was to cut the powered to one light, and then run into Shaws still power mansion (a mansion that Shaw knows 100 times better that Wolverine) in an attempt to lose him? That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Wolverine's getaway plan was to run into a place Shaw knows better than he does with nothing other that a few feet of relative darkness to slow Shaw down in his own front yard? Does that make sense to you? I know Wolverine's Batman but come on.
Yeah Wolverine ran from Shaw. Lucky for Wolverine Shaw somehow got lost in his own backyard for a significant length of time and was unable to find the two screaming men in his own mansion, despite that fact that... you know... they were screaming and busting down walls (which makes some noise)... and he already knew where Dakon was inside the mansion... So, if I get this right the popular position here is that Shaw was unable to navigate out of his own yard into his mansion, and find a Logan and Dakon before they had time to talk, fight, talk again at much more length (and that of course is ignore the time it took Wolverine to actually get to Dakon after the power to the flood light was cut), even though he A) already knew and B) they where being anything but discrete? Just want to be sure.