Knight's Rants.

This is the thread where I will express myself with a political rant involving one of today's issues. And my first one: Racism and Sexism.

I am sorry, but we are all different. equal, but different. A black person is a black person, on average a kenyan will run faster than some fatass english dude, and some people are better at certain things than others.

When you ask me to compare a man with a woman, a black man with a white man, its like asking me to compare a wrench with a screwdriver with a hammer. they are all equally indispensable, but they are better at different things. Sure you can use a wrench as a hammer, but its not going to do as good of a job.

I respect a man in a business suit. This is a man who I am motivated by, who It is an honor knowing. those people who hang out on the streets who collect on welfare, I have no respect for them. They don't have the ambition or the motivation to better their position, they live in crap, they are content with crap, and they aren't even trying. Black or white, man or woman, you're better at work.

So why am I so P'O'd about people who cry racism? because its dead. If anything, the white people are the ones being discriminated against. We work hard, and our just deserts are taken to pay for welfare, which is almost totally lazy, ambitionless black people. I'm not saying that white people aren't lazy and ambitionless, but most of the people our tax money goes to are either mexican or black people who take from society and never give. Why is the government so biased? I don't know, you will have to ask someone else, but this is socialistic and it removes the need to work. Why work when I can get a check once a month and live in a dump?

Sexism:
Ok, I'm sorry, this is going to sound horribly biased and awful, but a man is a man and a woman is a woman. they are different, k? They are both needed, both should have equal rights, but they shouldn't get equal treatment because they are different. Nobody likes walking down the street and seeing some white trash tub who thinks shes some guy. Women are more elegant, more visually appealing, and just overall better than men. Men are stronger, more base, and can accomplish more physically. Why are we crying about the man-woman ratio in management? the truth is, the man to woman ratio in the workforce is the same. Its not an all boys game, its open, just more women tend to be stay at home moms or don't stay in the workforce long enough to get a management position.

Whats my point? I'm tired of the race card and the sexism card. I'm going to f***ing treat you like an american if you are black or white or male or female. I'm not treating a female like a male (seriously she'd think that's kind of creepy), and I'm not treating white or black trash like people who go out and work for their living. And I don't expect someone to treat me like a woman. If i hear someone else whining because they are black and they didn't get a job or a raise or a promotion, i'm going to stab them, because its not that your black, its probably that you were less qualified than your competitor. In the sense that the only ones talking about racism or whining about it are the black people, the only ones being racist towards the black people are themselves.

(this is something i wrote down to get my ideas down for a paper i am writing. I decided that it might be nice to hear some people's opinions in the process)

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11

So why am I so P'O'd about people who cry racism? because its dead. If anything, the white people are the ones being discriminated against. We work hard, and our just deserts are taken to pay for welfare, which is almost totally lazy, ambitionless black people. I'm not saying that white people aren't lazy and ambitionless, but most of the people our tax money goes to are either mexican or black people who take from society and never give. Why is the government so biased?

Dude. Are you serious. You know just because you claimed not to be racist doesn't mean that you then can state all sorts of racist shit. Do you have numbers for welfare, by the way? How do you know about all those lazy blacks stealing your money?

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11

They are both needed, both should have equal rights, but they shouldn't get equal treatment because they are different. Nobody likes walking down the street and seeing some white trash tub who thinks shes some guy. Women are more elegant, more visually appealing, and just overall better than men. Men are stronger, more base, and can accomplish more physically. Why are we crying about the man-woman ratio in management? the truth is, the man to woman ratio in the workforce is the same. Its not an all boys game, its open, just more women tend to be stay at home moms or don't stay in the workforce long enough to get a management position.

Again, I don't know where you get the numbers. I would assume you got a point about there being some inequalities not due to sexism, but due to preference of the females. But, again, sexism does exist and women do get discriminated against for no other reason than their gender.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Whats my point? I'm tired of the race card and the sexism card. I'm going to f***ing treat you like an american if you are black or white or male or female. I'm not treating a female like a male (seriously she'd think that's kind of creepy), and I'm not treating white or black trash like people who go out and work for their living. And I don't expect someone to treat me like a woman.

That's what most civil rights activists want though. The problem is that people don't treat them as "americans" but as niggers or spics or breeding machines.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
If i hear someone else whining because they are black and they didn't get a job or a raise or a promotion, i'm going to stab them, because its not that your black, its probably that you were less qualified than your competitor. In the sense that the only ones talking about racism or whining about it are the black people, the only ones being racist towards the black people are themselves.

Well, that's just ignorant. The matter of the fact is that it is harder for blacks to suceed, their "whining" is still very much justified. But yes, racism goes both ways.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's what most civil rights activists want though. The problem is that people don't treat them as "americans" but as niggers or spics or breeding machines.

To be fair women are mainly breeding machines.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
To be fair women are mainly breeding machines.

And sandwich makers, can't forget that crucial role.

P.S. This thread sucks, I was expecting some thought-out and intelligent ranting, yet Bardock42, one of KMCs lower life forms tore it to shreds and he wasn't even trying.

wait... are we allowed to start personal rant threads?

If so, I'll take 3

Originally posted by inimalist
If so, I'll take 3

That's what she said?

lol

you bet she did 😖hifty:

First of all, I didn't say all black people are lazy or ambitionless or that white people weren't. I said that the ones who collect off of welfare are, and that welfare mostly consists of black (or mexican) people. The numbers are there.

Second of all,

That's what most civil rights activists want though. The problem is that people don't treat them as "Americans" but as niggers or spics or breeding machines.

LoL, racist.

Edit: Welfare is collected by more Caucasians than any other group, simply because they're more white people in America. Now population to percentage-wise, you might be right.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
To be fair women are mainly breeding machines.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
First of all, I didn't say all black people are lazy or ambitionless or that white people weren't. I said that the ones who collect off of welfare are, and that welfare mostly consists of black (or mexican) people. The numbers are there.

I asked for them, could you show them to me?

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Second of all,

as long as we are asking for numbers, I'd like you to find a poll and see what percent of people treat them as this. And I believe that anyone has the right to treat anyone the way they want to as long as they are not hurting them or invading their property or lands. Racism does exist, but its so infinitesimal that i wonder wtf people are complaining about. What do you want to do, force that fat racist bastard to love black people? At this point, its so eliminated on a commercial and a federal scale, the only thing they could be doing is forcing individuals change their private views. I mean come on, if the majority of people thought that blacks were niggers and treated them that way, then Obama would not be president.

How would you gather those numbers? And I agree with you, I think people shouldn't be forced to not be racist, but, you are the one saying that you stab the next guy that whines about racism. We should apply the same treatment to both side. And there is a very, very, very large gap between the majority and infinitesimal. Even if only every 1 in 100 whites thinks that black people are all lazy bums that steal welfare money and all Mexicans are illegal assholes that steal good white American jobs then that is still very noticeable and a big number.

this thread is the intellectual equivalent of straight men who think women have it equal in society but don't want to hang around gay people for fear of being hit on.

OH and gay people I don't want to be sued because I think that gay is illogical for us as a race, that would suck.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
OH and gay people I don't want to be sued because I think that gay is illogical for us as a race, that would suck.

In English, please?

pretty much being gay is illogical for our race, it produces neither babies nor any positive results. It only serves to spread/originate aids.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
pretty much being gay is illogical for our race, it produces neither babies nor any positive results. It only serves to spread/originate aids.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude. Are you serious. You know just because you claimed not to be racist doesn't mean that you then can state all sorts of racist shit. Do you have numbers for welfare, by the way? How do you know about all those lazy blacks stealing your money?

http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/913/Comparing-New-TANF-with-Old-AFDC-LENGTH-TIME-ON-WELFARE.html

That's a slightly old statistic.

I can't find any newer ones.

At first, the numbers don't appear to directly make Knight's case(no pun intended, lol). Closer inspection, as you would do, would reveal a different story, per capita.

There is a significantly higher number, per capita, of African Americans on welfare. I just did quick math in my head....but I don't have exact numbers.

K.

300 million Americans.

12.4% are African American.

2.6 average number of family members on welfare.

this comes out to

14.82% of all African American families on welfare. This calculation is slightly flawed because we don't know how many members are, on average, in each African American family. It could be twice the average of 2.6....it could be half the average of 2.6. Both of which would greatly throw off the numbers. We can assume, to be fair, that the average number of members in each family is about the same across all the races.

Wait, I was correct, there is a difference. There are more, on average, family members in African American households than white. So that throws the numbers off even more. It is 2.68 for African Americans....or.

That changes the calculation to 15.28.

http://www.2010census.biz/population/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2001/tabavg1.pdf

K.

We will do the same calculation for white people.

300 million Americans

76% of Americans are white.

2.54 average members per family.

2.36% of American families are on welfare.

Now..

My math is still slightly off because the average number of family members, as the income goes down, goes up. In other words, the poor have more children than the rich. So my numbers still aren't sound for 2001s data.

However, this puts into perspective where that racial generalization comes from.

Now, chime in psychological studies that talks about poor people staying down in poor status. Bleh. I'm not much on that so I'll let someone else talk about that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Again, I don't know where you get the numbers. I would assume you got a point about there being some inequalities not due to sexism, but due to preference of the females. But, again, sexism does exist and women do get discriminated against for no other reason than their gender.

There's not very much gender inequality anymore.

There's a shitload of females in management where I work(Still a lot more males, though) and the grunt level, which is the guys who put together the laptops, installs servers, etc. is absurdly made up of men.

That's IT, though, and IT is absurdly male dominant.

I'm all for hiring the best employee. That's all I care about. I don't care what skin color they are, what gender, their sexual preference, their age. If you come to work on time and leave on time without excessive breaks/lunches....AND you perform your job well, that's good enough for me.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, racist.

Edit: Welfare is collected by more Caucasians than any other group, simply because they're more white people in America. Now population to percentage-wise, you might be right.

You're......wrong. 😐

acccording to 2001s data, that is. 😄

More blacks on welfare than whites. Whites be pushin' 30% of the total...blacks be pushin' 39%. That total is 2121000 families. Also, blacks have more, on average, members in their family...so it's even more data skewed against your comment.

The data is there. The racists can have a heyday.

Edit- LordKnightFall.

Dude, you're much better at goofing around in the OTF. However, the numbers on one of your points are strongly in your favor...so you're not completely and idiot on every point. 😉

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/913/Comparing-New-TANF-with-Old-AFDC-LENGTH-TIME-ON-WELFARE.html

That's a slightly old statistic.

I can't find any newer ones.

At first, the numbers don't appear to directly make Knight's case(no pun intended, lol). Closer inspection, as you would do, would reveal a different story, per capita.

There is a significantly higher number, per capita, of African Americans on welfare. I just did quick math in my head....but I don't have exact numbers.

K.

300 million Americans.

12.4% are African American.

2.6 average number of family members on welfare.

this comes out to

14.82% of all African American families on welfare. This calculation is slightly flawed because we don't know how many members are, on average, in each African American family. It could be twice the average of 2.6....it could be half the average of 2.6. Both of which would greatly throw off the numbers. We can assume, to be fair, that the average number of members in each family is about the same across all the races.

Wait, I was correct, there is a difference. There are more, on average, family members in African American households than white. So that throws the numbers off even more. It is 2.68 for African Americans....or.

That changes the calculation to 15.28.

http://www.2010census.biz/population/socdemo/hh-fam/cps2001/tabavg1.pdf

K.

We will do the same calculation for white people.

300 million Americans

76% of Americans are white.

2.54 average members per family.

2.36% of American families are on welfare.

Now..

My math is still slightly off because the average number of family members, as the income goes down, goes up. In other words, the poor have more children than the rich. So my numbers still aren't sound for 2001s data.

However, this puts into perspective where that racial generalization comes from.

Now, chime in psychological studies that talks about poor people staying down in poor status. Bleh. I'm not much on that so I'll let someone else talk about that.

Hmm, yes, the stats do show that more blacks get welfare. It does not, of course, prove the "lazy" part. One might argue that due to the inequalities in races black are forced into needing welfare. One might incorporate education into it as well. The issue of poverty in general, as well as relating to race is certainly more complicated than just this. But, I always appreciate getting some actual statistics, so thank you.

[edit] Also, I think you seem to imply there that only "white" Americans are true Americans... 😛

Originally posted by dadudemon
There's not very much gender inequality anymore.

There's a shitload of females in management where I work(Still a lot more males, though) and the grunt level, which is the guys who put together the laptops, installs servers, etc. is absurdly made up of men.

That's IT, though, and IT is absurdly male dominant.

I'm all for hiring the best employee. That's all I care about. I don't care what skin color they are, what gender, their sexual preference, their age. If you come to work on time and leave on time without excessive breaks/lunches....AND you perform your job well, that's good enough for me.

I, too, think that gender equality is getting better, but that doesn't mean that women don't have to deal with sexism on a daily basis. Which knightfall seemed to totally disregard.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, yes, the stats do show that more blacks get welfare. It does not, of course, prove the "lazy" part.

Agreed...sort of. It does show that despite that "whites" make up a much much larger portion of people in the U.S., less are on welfare.

Originally posted by Bardock42
One might argue that due to the inequalities in races black are forced into needing welfare. One might incorporate education into it as well. The issue of poverty in general, as well as relating to race is certainly more complicated than just this.

Indeed. Which is why I made my blurb about the psychology at the end. I can't work with that very well...unless there's a number that can be used as factual and not professional opinion.

I believe that it is actually easier for a Black person to succeed in America than it is for a white person. One hint of racism and you can blow the whistle. All sorts of scholarships and handicaps are given to them for college. In government, they get hiring handicaps because the feds have to meet certain minimum diversity requirements. College football recruiters will take the African American football player over the white one when all other items are equal. Don't believe it? Go talk to the OU football recruiters or any of the Texas football recruiters. Oh, and don't for get AA. (not alcoholics anonymous.)

Hell, isn't there special loan deals for being a certain race due to some diversity kickback from the federal government?

This is REALLY what Knight should have been arguing about. He should have first presented and calculated the data like I did, then made the whining like I did above.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But, I always appreciate getting some actual statistics, so thank you.

No problem. I would rather read numbers than listen to someone wing stuff all day. Numbers, when correct, can't really be argued with.

Originally posted by Bardock42
[edit] Also, I think you seem to imply there that only "white" Americans are true Americans... 😛

Don't get me wrong. It was just a little over 40 years ago that blacks finally got to go to the same nice schools as whites. I find that disgusting and shameful. I find ANY time of racism to be disgusting and ignorant.

I can completely understand why a 60 year old black man may have some bottled up feelings about white people. It's retarded the things he had to put up with as a child.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I, too, think that gender equality is getting better, but that doesn't mean that women don't have to deal with sexism on a daily basis. Which knightfall seemed to totally disregard.

Your are correct.

However, where I work, men have to watch their mouths around women. It pisses me off. We can't say shit like, "Do I look like your b*tch? Go get it yourself, douche." around women or we'll end up in HR "exploring our options." There's two things that can be claimed sexist about that. Calling someone your "b*tch" and calling them a "douche". Calling someone an enema bag doesn't have the same ring as douche bag...........so it would be retarded to change that just to keep from offending an oversensitive women at work. If that's not the sexism you were referring to, then I can agree that men objectify women way the **** too much.

I don't mean to justify that.....but men are programmed via years of evolution to be visual animals with their female counterparts. You can't just delete or replace all of that DNA in an instant because the modern world demands it. True, that humans all the time defy their basic programming because we're so much more intelligent than other species. That's great, actually, that we can do that. However, the day we become literal equals is the day sex (as in gender) doesn't exist.

Also, the Stimulus Package and welfare are reparations enough so I don't want to hear about reparations anymore! 😠 😠

Racism and sexism are not dead, each sex and each race in most cases give as good as they get. Your rant fails. As far as your paper, I hope you have some refferences, otherwise you're going to fail that as well.

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