Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
SO HERE IS MY POINT. THE POINT IS NOT THAT I HATE BLACKS or THAT BLACKS ARE DIFFERENT,ITS THAT I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT RACISM.
I never see it, and the only time i do is when its me handing over the welfare share of my paycheck or when that dude that was honestly less qualified then me got that job spot.
Oh please. The amount of your 'paycheck' that goes towards welfare spending is tiny. I think you'll live.
And to be totally honest, the way you come off on here, I doubt it was a question of someone being less qualified than you getting a job. It's quite possible that you simply were not the most qualified candidate for the job.
That site about Obama is laughable. Especially the garbage about the 2004 Senate race in Illinois. Right, I live in Illinois. I'm from Chicago. I voted in that election. Obama did not 'drive his opponent to quit'. Jack Ryan, the Republican candidate, dropped out of the race after a scandal when divorce records of his were unsealed and made public, and it was learned that he had been very dishonest to the GOP about the contents of said records. If anything, it was the Illinois Republican party that pressed him to drop out of the race, though he claimed to have done so for personal reasons. The replacement candidate, Alan Keyes, was a complete unknown in this state, having only established residency a few days before announcing his candidacy. No one knew who he was, and Obama won by the largest margin for a state race in this state.
Honestly, I don't even know why this thread is even here. This isn't your blog. And you can say "I'm not racist! I'm not sexist! I'm not homophobic!" all you want, but the things you say seem to suggest otherwise.
actually, i have said multiple times that all men are created equal. homophobia means "the fear of man", which i am not. If you mean "the fear of homosexuality" then you are right. I am afraid of how homosexuality might affect America and its children. I'm afraid of America becoming like Africa.
Am I racist because i fail to acknowledge the problem of racism, and wonder what people want to do to fix the problem instead of whining about it? I didn't think so.
Show me the numbers of how much money is going towards welfare that could be used to do something productive, and force all of the people in welfare to make something of themselves.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
actually, i have said multiple times that all men are created equal. homophobia means "the fear of man", which i am not. If you mean "the fear of homosexuality" then you are right. I am afraid of how homosexuality might affect America and its children. I'm afraid of America becoming like Africa.Am I racist because i fail to acknowledge the problem of racism, and wonder what people want to do to fix the problem instead of whining about it? I didn't think so.
Show me the numbers of how much money is going towards welfare that could be used to do something productive, and force all of the people in welfare to make something of themselves.
Get a dictionary.
Main Entry:
ho·mo·pho·bia Listen to the pronunciation of homophobia
Pronunciation:
\ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\
Function:
noun
Date:
1969
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
Homosexuality isn't inherently a bad thing. If you don't like it? Don't go **** someone of your own gender. Problem solved! If your argument is that gay couples don't have kids - well, neither do all heterosexual couples. And there are still gay couples that do have children, whether biological or adopted.
As for tax spending -
http://nationalpriorities.org/FY2008%20total%20outlays%20as%20proposed
http://nationalpriorities.org/Federal%20Spending
And your attitude towards welfare and those on it is absolutely disgusting and shows nothing but you having lived a life of privilege. If someone is on welfare, they really do not get a lot of money. There are strict limits on how long they can be on it, and there are strict guidelines as to how they can get on it and remain on it. It is not as simple as 'making something of themselves'. Not by a long shot. Spending money on that is far more productive, in my opinion, than throwing money at a pointless war we should never have been part of. Solve the problems at home before trying to fix the rest of the world.
And it's not that you 'fail' to acknowledge it, as you say. It's that you seem to refuse to acknowledge that it exists, because you personally have not witnessed it.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Year: 1933
Location: GermanyIf you don't like the nazis...Don't go join the Nazi party. Problem solved!
(Ignoring something doesn't mean it wont affect the society...)
Nice job. You just Godwin'd the thread.
Bob and Steve having sex is not even remotely comparable to the Nazis. For starters, Bob and Steve are not effecting anyone else.
Originally posted by Peach
Nice job. You just Godwin'd the thread.Bob and Steve having sex is not even remotely comparable to the Nazis. For starters, Bob and Steve are not effecting anyone else.
I have no idea what that means...
Doesn't change the fact that I was correct either...
Not liking Catholics, therefore not being a Catholic does not mean that Catholics will not have an affect on the live and society of Knightfall...
If it wasn't having any effects then people wouldn't be talking about it would they? Money wouldn't be spent on it, rights movements wouldn't exist...because fact is, its more than just "****ing someone of your own gender" its an identiy and it will have an affect on the US- it may be good, bad or neutral but there will be one...
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I have no idea what that means...Doesn't change the fact that I was correct either...
Not liking Catholics, therefore not being a Catholic does not mean that Catholics will not have an affect on the live and society of Knightfall...
If it wasn't having any effects then people wouldn't be talking about it would they? Money wouldn't be spent on it, rights movements wouldn't exist...because fact is, its more than just "****ing someone of your own gender" its an identiy and it will have an affect on the US- it may be good, bad or neutral but there will be one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law
You may have been correct, but it was an absolutely incorrect and totally off-base comparison.
And no, really, it doesn't. Rights movements exist because people are denied rights on the basis of their sexuality. Just like rights movements have existed because of people being denied rights on the basis of their skin color or their gender. And if all people are created equal, why are all people not given equal rights?
Originally posted by PeachI didn't say that they don't have the right to be homosexual. And your argument does not defeat my valid and just reasons.
Get a dictionary.Homosexuality isn't inherently a bad thing. If you don't like it? Don't go **** someone of your own gender. Problem solved! If your argument is that gay couples don't have kids - well, neither do all heterosexual couples. And there are still gay couples that do have children, whether biological or adopted.
As for tax spending -http://nationalpriorities.org/FY2008%20total%20outlays%20as%20proposed
http://nationalpriorities.org/Federal%20Spending
And your attitude towards welfare and those on it is absolutely disgusting and shows nothing but you having lived a life of privilege. If someone is on welfare, they really do not get a lot of money.
how do you mean? from what you said, it sounds more complicated than getting a job at mcdonalds and a small apartment.
There are strict limits on how long they can be on it, and there are strict guidelines as to how they can get on it and remain on it. It is not as simple as 'making something of themselves'. Not by a long shot. Spending money on that is far more productive, in my opinion, than throwing money at a pointless war we should never have been part of.
Solve the problems at home before trying to fix the rest of the world.
and I have worked with and in both societies. I think i am a better observer than those social groups who wiki racism to find evidence of it instead of going out and trying to find some. And if I have seen some its Individual racism, which should not be controlled by the government or any activist group.
And it's not that you 'fail' to acknowledge it, as you say. It's that you seem to refuse to acknowledge that it exists, because you personally have not witnessed it.
Originally posted by Peach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_LawYou may have been correct, but it was an absolutely incorrect and totally off-base comparison.
And no, really, it doesn't. Rights movements exist because people are denied rights on the basis of their sexuality. Just like rights movements have existed because of people being denied rights on the basis of their skin color or their gender. And if all people are created equal, why are all people not given equal rights?
Exactly, so it does affect society...you accept that yes?
(I agree with you- all people should have equal rights regardless of what they do.)
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
actually, i have said multiple times that all men are created equal. homophobia means "the fear of man", which i am not. If you mean "the fear of homosexuality" then you are right. I am afraid of how homosexuality might affect America and its children. I'm afraid of America becoming like Africa.Am I racist because i fail to acknowledge the problem of racism, and wonder what people want to do to fix the problem instead of whining about it? I didn't think so.
Show me the numbers of how much money is going towards welfare that could be used to do something productive, and force all of the people in welfare to make something of themselves.
What the **** do you really know abut Africa?
No, you're not a racist becuse you acknowledge issues between race and racism. You're a racist because you base it all on wellfrare v. reality. The question of welfare is alwavyvs more productive when you ask it against profit vs reality.
Don't mistake equality for everyone with equality for anyone you've chosen. You're a fool; a fascist and a looser. I hope you die a long, painful and miserable death; just like you know you wish on everyone who doesn't think the way you do. You ****ing idiot.
Originally posted by Devil Kingwelfare is not productive. Welfare forces people to be stuck in a low class social position with the fear that it will be taken away should they leave.
What the **** do you really know abut Africa?No, you're not a racist becuse you acknowledge issues between race and racism. You're a racist because you base it all on wellfrare v. reality. The question of welfare is alwavyvs more productive when you ask it against profit vs reality.
I said equality for everyone with everyone. Reported for the death threat, and the only person getting heated about this is you. I never said or conveyed any feelings of ill will towards you. IF you are gay, which by now I know you probably are, I have said that while your action is immoral, I don't judge you by a bad habit. I have only argued things relevant to the whole of society itself. You want to go around name calling, go ahead. You only make yourself look foolish and your ideas weak.
Don't mistake equality for everyone with equality for anyone you've chosen. You're a fool; a fascist and a looser. I hope you die a long, painful and miserable death; just like you know you wish on everyone who doesn't think the way you do. You ****ing idiot.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-GavThis sounds good at first, i hope you realize, but after you start plugging different actions into the mix, it sounds a little off.
(I agree with you- all people should have equal rights regardless of what they do.)
First lets plug racism into it.
Racists should have equal rights regardless of what they do.
It sounds a little off, doesn't it? Racist's shouldn't be allowed law enforcement jobs, for one.
Lets try another one.
Pedofiles should have equal rights regardless of what they do.
Should pedofiles be allowed to work in day-cares? No, i didn't think so.
Equal rights goes a good ways with homosexuality, but once it gets to marriage, it kind of sinks dead, because at this point it becomes about emotion and not logic. The arguments are "but they luffs each other", I tried to make mine a little deeper than that. So if gay people can get married will I be able to pull my child out of school because he's not ready for that teaching yet? no. If my pastor doesn't want to perform a gay marriage, can he do that? no he will lose his tax exemption status and the government will most likely close him down. My main concern is the thought police factor and the negative effects it has on society.
Once again, I'm going to repeat that homosexuality is not a state of being, its not a permanent adjective, and its not a race or social class, its an action. And you are totally free to commit that action by the laws of nature in my book.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
I didn't say that they don't have the right to be homosexual. And your argument does not defeat my valid and just reasons.I see proposed in the first one and a large ammount of money in social security, which is good in some ways, but makes up a lot of what i mean when I say welfare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_security the good parts are when it helps the old or disabled. the bad parts are when it helps "poverty"
EXACTLY it holds them in welfare housing! and they can't work and have welfare at the same time, so what do they chose? they chose to live in dumps and get a check from the government.
how do you mean? from what you said, it sounds more complicated than getting a job at mcdonalds and a small apartment.
I am not talking about the war.
and I have worked with and in both societies. I think i am a better observer than those social groups who wiki racism to find evidence of it instead of going out and trying to find some. And if I have seen some its Individual racism, which should not be controlled by the government or any activist group.
I don't have time to really do more than pick at this, but...
- Social Security is not considered part of welfare.
- Welfare does not prevent someone from having a job. In fact, generally you need to show that you have or are looking for a job, or that there is a very good reason as to why you are not looking for one.
- Yeah, it is a bit more difficult than getting a job at McDs and getting a small apartment. Number one, in case you haven't noticed, the economy is rather shit right now. It's not easy to find any sort of job. Number two, minimum wage jobs are NOT enough to live on. Even working minimum wage full time will likely put you under the poverty level for a single person, let alone if you are struggling to support a family. And cheap places to live are equally difficult to find.
In other words, get a damn clue.
to a member of the opposite gender?
Why can't they marry someone of the same gender? People should have the right to marry whoever they want, so long as it is consensual and both are of legal age.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
to a member of the opposite gender?
traditional marriage as based on man and woman is false. The most traditional marriage is polygamy. In all traditional marriage, a woman (and often a man) have no say in who they marry. Traditional marriage was often a property or economic arrangement.
there is no reason to specify that marriage must be heterosexual unless there is the specific intent to deny it to homosexuals.
Regardless of the reason, if you wish to deny it to homosexuals, you are being intollorant, at best.