Sephiroth vs. Ultimecia

Originally posted by bloodlust247
lol maybe Sephiroth because he exists in a similar fictional world of FF.. but her existence isn't related to Kratos or Pyron.. it's impossible to estimate the size of her 'reality' or 'existence' because it's not stated how big it is other than the landmasses described on one single planet and there is no actual place that we know (like Earth or Andromeda) to compare it to

Sephiroth, Kratos, and Pyron are all part of the universe, and Ultemecia was absorbing everything in the universe, even the stars. Easily stated, she was going to absorb EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. Sephiroth has no moves, now when I think about it, that can hit her, nothing at all. She will absorb everything of his. You can name anything of Sephiroth's and she will absorb it, except for probably Heartless Angel, but he won't be able to get that off at all.

Ultimecia does not 'exist' in the same universe as Pyron or Kratos.. we have no idea what her existence includes.. the backdrop of the game she is in doesn't give us enough detail to compare it.. so stop repeating yourself.. when you argue a point you're supposed to supply evidence.. show me some evidence that you know how big or what Ultimecia's existence or universe includes

she was absorbing entire stars with great speed, and the only reason squall + co weren't absorbed was due to love and friendship (literally)...nothing will stop pyron and kratos from getting absorbed..

Originally posted by MadMel
she was absorbing entire stars with great speed, and the only reason squall + co weren't absorbed was due to love and friendship (literally)...nothing will stop pyron and kratos from getting absorbed..

Exactly

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this seems one sided for the fact ultimecia is a really a reality buster.

Ultimecia>>>>>>>silver haired pansy

absorber, busters destroy things dont they? as in, planet busting is blowing the planet up...

absorbing can technically be interpreted as a form of destroying 😬

... Interesting debate, I shall add something.
First off, Ultimecia wins.

In my opinion, she just in her normal form can easily defeat Sephiroth because is a living Goddess. She could extract and materialize something from Sephiroth's thoughts as she did to Squall. Basically she would extract a God from Sephiroth's mind as that must be the most strongest thought Sephiroth could have. That's my theory.

or she could stop time and cut sephy to a million pieces 😬

I think this thread is basically done, it seems all or most of the people agrees in Ultimecia's victory. The only capable warrior who could defeat Ultimecia in a 1-1 is Squall, the legendary SeeD, there are no others.

Sephiroth doesn't have the PIS of friendship to save him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
and can destroy a planet over a period of at least 3 years. Whoa.

Why 3 years?

Originally posted by NemeBro
And Ultimecia was RAPIDLY absorbing stars and shit. She would rapidly absorb Sephiroth.

That would be bad for Ultimecia not Sephiroth.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
I think this thread is basically done, it seems all or most of the people agrees in Ultimecia's victory. The only capable warrior who could defeat Ultimecia in a 1-1 is Squall, the legendary SeeD, there are no others.

I disagree. People have forgotten the viral way of Jenova if Ultimecia absorbed Sephiroth...Ultimecia would most likely be under control of Sephiroth.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
She could extract and materialize something from Sephiroth's thoughts as she did to Squall.

Sephiroth could also shapeshift into her.

Sephiroth could also extract and materialize something from her thoughts or shapeshift into something from her memories.

Jenova virally infected the mako energy/lifestream. Ultemecia is from a universe where that does not exist therefore she cannot be made from it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Jenova virally infected the mako energy/lifestream. Ultemecia is from a universe where that does not exist therefore she cannot be made from it.

Jenova virally infected the Cetra and Cloud and many Sephiroth clones (Allowing Sephiroth to control them 🙂.

Jeez.

The fact that jenova cells can infect such an abstract energy just proves that Ultemecia would also get infected.

Who are from FF7 planet and whos form is lifestream.

No because Ultemecia is not an abstract energy. Her cells simply infected the cells the lifestream makes. That does not mena she can do the same to every other entity in other universes. No limit fallacy.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Who are from FF7 planet and whos form is lifestream.

No because Ultemecia is not an abstract energy. Her cells simply infected the cells the lifestream makes. That does not mena she can do the same to every other entity in other universes. No limit fallacy.

*sigh* Jenova cells don't infect the spirit energy inside a person, it infects the person physically.

Ultemecia is a lot easier to infect then an abstract energy.

The Lifestream is abstract. I hope you understand what that means.

How long does it take for a Jenova infection to take control, on average?

As soon as the cells enter the body the person is infected and can be controlled on Sephiroths whim.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
*sigh* Jenova cells don't infect the spirit energy inside a person, it infects the person physically.

Ultemecia is a lot easier to infect then an abstract energy.

The Lifestream is abstract. I hope you understand what that means.

Thats because people are made from the lifestream, hence why sephiroth once he has the negative stream can create entities.

nah, shes got no lifestream in her. Geostigma for the example works on spirit energy, Jenova cells infect the lifestream and when the lifestrream came out to stop meteor people also got infected. The body of the people infected try to stop the infectio nthe same way lifestream stopped meteor, hence the sickness and how Sephiroth controls the neg lifestream/geostigma people.

No its a stream of spirit energy within the planet, abstract is what the spirit is in our world.