I think that Ultimecia absorbing all of existence, controlling space-time, and making powerful creatures from a person's subconcious out classes ,the forever and a day to cast, meteor. For people like me that are oblivious to most of the villians in the Final Fantasy universe, you will be able to understand this simple principle of power.(Thanks to Star Ocean)
Universal Threat>>>>Galactic threat>>>>>>>>Planetary threat
However giving Sephiroth the benefit of the doubt ,Ultimecia sucks in Dissidia. (for a person without patience like me)
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sephiroth can extract memories and read thoughts, but Ultimecia can pull horrifying creatures out of your imagination just for funsies. Ultimecia made the Griever from nothing out of a design from Squall's subconscious.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sephiroth might be able to read her thoughts, but he can't turn her day dreams into living, breathing creatures. I love Sephiroth too, but he gets stomped hard against Ultimecia.
What? Sephiroth created three beings from images in the Lifestream surely he can create beings from images in a mind. He also did it while he was dead. Much better feat then hers.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I think that Ultimecia absorbing all of existence,
She never absorbed all of existence.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
controlling space-time,
Sorry, she didn't control space or time she could manipulate time a fair bit such as freezing it but she can't kill someone while it was frozen.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
and making powerful creatures from a person's subconcious
SHM would destroy the being she created.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
out classes ,the forever and a day to cast, meteor.
Meteor is like his worst spell.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
For people like me that are oblivious to most of the villians in the Final Fantasy universe, you will be able to understand this simple principle of power.(Thanks to Star Ocean)Universal Threat>>>>Galactic threat>>>>>>>>Planetary threat
However giving Sephiroth the benefit of the doubt ,Ultimecia sucks in Dissidia. (for a person without patience like me)
Mmm, sure Sephiroths light speed movement and attacks wouldn't do anything to Ultimecia. 🙄
Proof please.
What proof? Do you really think Sephiroth would be able to exist after being absorbed? Ultimecia was absorbing the Time and Space, stars and planets, destroying everything, becoming the existence itself.
Lol, Jenova cells, she has never shown any protection against anything like Jenova cells.
Lol? I should "lol". She has never shown any protection against Jenova cells? How she could? Sephiroth has showed any protection against Time Compression...? Huh...? Jenova cells wouldn't exist after being absorbed, it seems you don't understand.
Proof please, she never absorbed a person, Jenova cells would take over her body, allowing Sephiroth to control her. His will has more feats then hers.
It's quite ironic how you pretend to see proofs when you are stating that Jenova cells would be able to exist after being absorbed and to take control over Ultimecia. No she never absorbed a person, she was literally absorbing all the existence.
No, Sephiroth can move much faster then her. Her reaction speed is not good enough to keep up with Sephiroth.
She can teleport herself to any place.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Meteor is like his worst spell.
Nope, that's his best. Why do you think Tifa was so down about the end of the world? Besides, the party can withstand supernova. Supernova is not stronger than Meteor
Mmm, sure Sephiroths light speed movement and attacks wouldn't do anything to Ultimecia. 🙄
Light speed movement? My ass.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
What proof? Do you really think Sephiroth would be able to exist after being absorbed? Ultimecia was absorbing the Time and Space, stars and planets, destroying everything, becoming the existence itself.
What? Yes I do. Ultimecia was absorbing it, not destroying it, they are two different things.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Lol? I should "lol". She has never shown any protection against Jenova cells? How she could? Sephiroth has showed any protection against Time Compression...? Huh...? Jenova cells wouldn't exist after being absorbed, it seems you don't understand.
What destructive feat does Time Compression have? Oh that is right, nothing. Why wouldn't they exist after being absorbed? There is nothing suggesting things get destroyed when she absorbs them.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
It's quite ironic how you pretend to see proofs when you are stating that Jenova cells would be able to exist after being absorbed and to take control over Ultimecia. No she never absorbed a person, she was literally absorbing all the existence.
Well, Jenova cells have survived being in the Lifestream I am sure they can 'survive' absorption not like absorbing something is destroying something anyway.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
She can teleport herself to any place.
Quite right.
Proof please, she never absorbed a person,
Actually, she absorbed the entire planet. And if your party members die she absorbs them too.
No, Sephiroth can move much faster then her. Her reaction speed is not good enough to keep up with Sephiroth.
She blocked a sniper bullet after it had been fired. Her reaction time isn't to be sneezed at. Besides, as soon as the fight starts she can stop time. She doesn't need reaction time after that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually, she absorbed the entire planet. And if your party members die she absorbs them too.
Sorry that was supposed to be persons will.
Originally posted by Nephthys
She blocked a sniper bullet after it had been fired. Her reaction time isn't to be sneezed at. Besides, as soon as the fight starts she can stop time. She doesn't need reaction time after that.
It still isn't good enough to keep up with Sephiroth. Yes I am aware of her crazy time stopping abilities and I am aware she can stop it whenever she wants.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
What? Yes I do. Ultimecia was absorbing it, not destroying it, they are two different things.
Let me make it simple for you. For Time Compression Ultimecia: "Absorbing" = Destroying. She was becoming the existence itself denying the actual existence.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
What destructive feat does Time Compression have? Oh that is right, nothing. Why wouldn't they exist after being absorbed? There is nothing suggesting things get destroyed when she absorbs them.
The Time Compression was an example... You said Ultimecia have no protection against Jenova cells, well, I said Sephiroth doesn't have protection against Time Compression, it was just an example. Squall survived Time Compression while returning back to his original period. What? So you are basically stating that the existence that was absorbed by Ultimecia exists after being absorbed? Does that makes sense to you? An Star would be able to exist inside Ultimecia after being absorbed? If you think so, lmao.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Well, Jenova cells have survived being in the Lifestream I am sure they can 'survive' absorption not like absorbing something is destroying something anyway.
Time Compression Ultimecia would absorb the Lifestream as well. She was becoming an Omnipotent Goddess, do you think simple Jenova cells would be able to overcome a Goddess? You don't make sense, dude.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Quite right.
This was already explained, but the only reason Ultimecia couldn't absorb Squall and his friends was because of the Friendship and Love between them. Ultimecia traveled through her own subconscious to create Apocalypse, the most powerful Black Magic. She thought about the most powerful spell and boom, she created it. Apocalypse does not exist, it was created by her own mental powers.
Sephiroth had problems fighting Cloud... Ultimecia can teleport herself to any place, Sephiroth would hardly hit her. Sephiroth is extremely powerful, but come on... He's not in her league.
But sure... Even if we put Goku and all the DBZ warriors along with God, Jesus, Chaos, Bart Simpson and Ben 10 against Sephiroth you would say he would still win, that's what makes you a fan-boy, no offense.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Let me make it simple for you. For Time Compression Ultimecia: "Absorbing" = Destroying. She was becoming the existence itself denying the actual existence.
No it doesn't. I think you are taking a quote the wrong way.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
The Time Compression was an example... You said Ultimecia have no protection against Jenova cells, well, I said Sephiroth doesn't have protection against Time Compression, it was just an example.
But you don't need protection against Time Compression.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Squall survived Time Compression while returning back to his original period. What? So you are basically stating that the existence that was absorbed by Ultimecia exists after being absorbed? Does that makes sense to you? An Star would be able to exist inside Ultimecia after being absorbed? If you think so, lmao.
Why not? She could work almost like a Black Hole!
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Time Compression Ultimecia would absorb the Lifestream as well. She was becoming an Omnipotent Goddess, do you think simple Jenova cells would be able to overcome a Goddess? You don't make sense, dude.
I thought here we didn't take stock into titles like Goddess and the like? Simple Jenova cells? C'mon you are underrating Jenova cells greatly.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
This was already explained, but the only reason Ultimecia couldn't absorb Squall and his friends was because of the Friendship and Love between them. Ultimecia traveled through her own subconscious to create Apocalypse, the most powerful Black Magic. She thought about the most powerful spell and boom, she created it. Apocalypse does not exist, it was created by her own mental powers.
I know that.
Sephiroth also created Supernova by his own 'mental' \ magical powers, he created it in his weakest form.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Sephiroth had problems fighting Cloud... Ultimecia can teleport herself to any place, Sephiroth would hardly hit her. Sephiroth is extremely powerful, but come on... He's not in her league.
Sephiroth had absolutely no trouble with Cloud. He had trouble with PiS though.
Lol, Ultimecia wouldn't see Sephiroth coming if he went full speed.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
But sure... Even if we put Goku and all the DBZ warriors along with God, Jesus, Chaos, Bart Simpson and Ben 10 against Sephiroth you would say he would still win, that's what makes you a fan-boy, no offense.
Well yeah, I would argue Sephiroth would win that, but only because it would have been made in spite.