Originally posted by Raoul
why wouldnt he unless it was otherwise stated? mutants start off as humans, unless its part of their mutation that they gain speed or reflexes, then they're human level...that was always more control than speed, imo...
He still did it incredibly fast.
And he was watching it happen, Nightcrawler couldn't tell that they weren't moving.
Originally posted by Raoul
i wouldn't argue with that, but what i'd say is that it's only fast in comparison to normal human speeds, not the superhuman flash or superman speeds...
Originally posted by darthgoober
I know it's not Supes's or Flash's level, but it's a far cry from "human" reactions IMO. Think about it, in movies the proper rate to simulate movement is 24 frames/sec, if Bobby was creating and destroying the figures on a molecular level at that rate it's pretty impressive even by the standards of High Meta level heroes(barring Northstar and Aurora anyway).
i'd just wonder how fast a human without speed could do the same thing...
i mean, its not like bobby is moving his hands to perform the operation as much as it is his mind doing the majority of the work, imo...
i know its not you, but on the boards there seems to be this perception that normal human refexes are somehow slow or something, when they aren't actually that bad... look at how many heroes have purely human reflexes and can still pull off insane stuff speed wise...
Originally posted by Raoul
i wouldn't argue with that, but what i'd say is that it's only fast in comparison to normal human speeds, not the superhuman flash or superman speeds...
Of course not.
I don't think it would really make a difference when fighting people who have top-notch speed, I just wanted to point out that Iceman is probably above regular humans.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
has he done anything impressive since messiah complex
he's been slapped around by a b*tch by mystique. a lot.
Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Of course not.I don't think it would really make a difference when fighting people who have top-notch speed, I just wanted to point out that Iceman is probably above regular humans.
even if he is, i don't think it's by a huge gap...
Originally posted by Raoul
i wouldn't argue with that, but what i'd say is that it's only fast in comparison to normal human speeds, not the superhuman flash or superman speeds...
Wally's 'speed of thought' is the speed of sound. Straight from his own thoughts (in a narration panel) in Flash #207 or 208.
There is nothing DC chaaracters can do to Iceman unless MM uses TP to control him or something then againI am unsure if that will work since ICeman can inhabit any for of water/moisture so what would MM attack exactly? Also Flash could throw iceman into the speed force but even then Bobby might be able to escape that since he doesn't really need his body..
On the other hand Bobby won't be able to do that much damage against DC but since he is essentially immortal I vote for Team one after a long long long battle.
Team 1 gets the maojority, theres nothing that they could do to bobby and as long as the opposing team possess blood bobbie is able to damage them. Bobbie is basically unstoppable and there is nothing that dc could do to him. Then you add thor who IS the most powerful and packs the hardest hit in this battle along with vulcan who is second to being the most versatile on battle on the battle field along with wwh who is the strongest by far in this battle along with being the most durable and could basically repeat what konvikt did but better.