galen marek at full power vs Darth Krayt at full power

Here's a theory for you. In The Unifying Force, Jacen tapped into the raw Force. What if Galen managed to tap into the raw Force? Galen is strong in the Force - strong enough to defeat those Force users as chilled monkey pointed out. But he forgot to add Vader who other than Sidious was the most powerful Sith. If Galen tapped into the raw power as Jacen did in the The Unifying Force, Galen could possibly defeat any Jedi and Sith alike. Note the word possibly.

Galen was trained by Vader, but Vader underestimated his Force potential when he "unleashed" him. Galen was like Mara when she was the Emperors Hand - living a life of violence. Where Mara was a true assasin, Galen at the time was Starkiller - a wrecking ball of the Force who really abused it. He had complete disregard for life until after Vader betrayed him.

Just a few mentions on Krayt and his sources of knowledge:

IIRC, the one holocron that actually helped him out was an ancient Sith from before "Sith Lords" were even what we recognize them as. She was literally a "Lord of the Sith" in the sense that she ruled over the relatively primitive (Powerful, but primitive) Sith species. Either way, the Sith Lords since were likely far more powerful and knowledgeable.

That single Sith aside, most of the other Sith holocrons didn't seem too interested in helping him. Bane and the Sith whose name I can never seem to remember basically called him a fool and taunted him, while Nihilus basically just cussed him out in that strange language of his. And what his little minions say about needing to find another way to save him implies that even if he did have other holocrons at his disposal, they were either unable (Implying a lack of knowledge regarding what was needed) or unwilling to help him.

So honestly, I'd say that Galen takes this with relative ease. Krayt has more years under his belt, but he's weaker in terms of raw Force power, and most of his more "hands on" sources of knowledge regarding the dark side and the Sith, such as the holocrons, don't seem very helpful where he's concerned.

Originally posted by VinCon01
Just a few mentions on Krayt and his sources of knowledge:

IIRC, the one holocron that actually helped him out was an ancient Sith from before "Sith Lords" were even what we recognize them as. She was literally a "Lord of the Sith" in the sense that she ruled over the relatively primitive (Powerful, but primitive) Sith species. Either way, the Sith Lords since were likely far more powerful and knowledgeable.

So honestly, I'd say that Galen takes this with relative ease. Krayt has more years under his belt, but he's weaker in terms of raw Force power, and most of his more "hands on" sources of knowledge regarding the dark side and the Sith, such as the holocrons, don't seem very helpful where he's concerned.

Relative ease? Very unlikely. He for sure has a lot more raw power than Krayt but Krayt's had 100+ years of training. There won't be anything easy about this fight.

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Darth Sexy - I don't think that Krayt had the same affinity or mastery of the Force as Galen. Galen was incredibly strong in the Force and according to Gideon, Galen was very skilled in Force mastery. Not sure about Krayt's mastery, but Galen would take this - his lightsaber skills may not be up there with the Masters, but he is at least their equal in Force potential. After all, this is the guy who beat Vader in lightsaber and Force.

Galen utterly destroys Krayt. I don't see how it could possibly even be close.

Relative ease? Very unlikely. He for sure has a lot more raw power than Krayt but Krayt's had 100+ years of training. There won't be anything easy about this fight.

100+ years of training, yes. But most of his "official" training was as a Jedi, while the majority of his training as a Sith was personal or at the hands of a holocron gatekeeper who died off before the Sith Order really became the dangerous organization that we recognize and associate with people like Palpatine, Bane, Maul, Exar Kun, Ragnos, etc, etc.

Training for a long time has limited use if the quality of the training is poor. And while I have little doubt that his training as a Jedi was good enough, I have my doubts about his training as a Sith. But then, I'm hardly an expert when it comes to Krayt, so I may be mistaken on the details of his training.

Saber duel would probably go to Krayt. He's got the Vonduun Crab armour, and appears to be pretty able on top of that (single handily slaughtering an entire group of Force Sensitive Imperial Knights in moments).

Originally posted by Darth Luna
Saber duel would probably go to Krayt. He's got the Vonduun Crab armour, and appears to be pretty able on top of that (single handily slaughtering an entire group of Force Sensitive Imperial Knights in moments).

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I forgot abut his armor. Galen was no prodigy with the blade as far as I know.

The only thing that really gaged Galen's ability with a blade was his duel with Shaak Ti, in which he acknowledges he was on the verge of losing.

But Eskimo, he overpowered Shaak Ti with the Force. How would Krayt react when Galen was getting his ass kicked in lightsaber, but Galen "uleashed" his strength in the Force - his ability to tap into the raw untamed Force? I don't think Krayt would stand a chance.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
But Eskimo, he overpowered Shaak Ti with the Force. How would Krayt react when Galen was getting his ass kicked in lightsaber, but Galen "uleashed" his strength in the Force - his ability to tap into the raw untamed Force? I don't think Krayt would stand a chance.

I never said he didn't, I was just stating that in a pure lightsaber duel he would most likely lose.

Originally posted by TheEskimo
The only thing that really gaged Galen's ability with a blade was his duel with Shaak Ti, in which he acknowledges he was on the verge of losing.

well i defeated her in lik 5 min...

i kno its all gameplay so don't bi*ch about it ok?

True, but all Force adepts, Sith and Jedi alike both use the Force in combat. It's not pure swordsmanship, if Galen knows he's no match with a lightsaber, than he will switch to his superior Force mastery and become what Vader taught him - a wrecking ball of the Force.

Galen was an unorthodox Jedi. Schooled in the ways of the dark, but found his way to the light. Many say he wasn't a "badass" Jedi but was when he was known as Starkiller. But it was Galen, not Starkiller who defeated Vader. He overpowered Vader in both Force and lightsaber - not an easy task wouldn't you agree?

I concur with darth truculent

Originally posted by Darth Truculent

Galen was an unorthodox Jedi. Schooled in the ways of the dark, but found his way to the light. Many say he wasn't a "badass" Jedi but was when he was known as Starkiller. But it was Galen, not Starkiller who defeated Vader. He overpowered Vader in both Force and lightsaber - not an easy task wouldn't you agree?

See both game and book.

Right. And the book mentions him throwing several pillars and at the same time attacking him with his lightsaber, so how does that exactly mean he "beat" vader in a saber duel if he is using a combination of attacks? Hell the novel already made it clear galen couldn't overpower vader's lightsaber defences.

Nice try being a smartass hun.

See both game and book.

I've seen all but maybe one of the versions, and Galen isn't exceptionally "awesome" in any of them.

- Xbox 360: They don't start using lightsabers until after Galen collapses a bunch of large pipes/containers on Vader, severely injuring him in the process. And even then, Vader deflects most of his strikes. Galen then finishes him through the Force.

- PSP: They duel with sabers for a moment, then Galen throws Vader a few times with the Force. The next part of the gameplay battle begins. When the next finisher scene begins, Galen doesn't use his saber at all, and proceeds to electrocute Vader.

- PS2: Same as the PSP version.

- PS3: Same as the Xbox 360 version.

- Novel: They have a brutal saber duel, with both of them struggling and Vader gaining a slight edge, and then Starkiller starts using the Force and still struggles to come out on top.

The one with the most saber use is the novel, and Galen still ends up falling back on the Force to win when he can't overcome him with a lightsaber...And in the novel, even then it's relatively close. And pretty much all of these versions involve Vader tossing Galen around earlier in the fight.

Vin & Dorian you raise good points, but Vader underestimated Galen. He probably again I state probably expected him to fight like a Jedi. But Galen fought him the way Vader trained him - a weapon of the Force. Galen may have been at a disadvantage in the beginning, but Gideon taught me that Force mastery is stronger than a high midichlorian count. Galen used that in his saber duel with Vader and when the support beams were torn down and Galen, crushed Vader with them, guess what - the lightsaber duel swung in Galen's favor.

Why do I state that? The saber duel swung in Galen's favor - he rolled Vader's wrists causing the lightsaber to fly out of his hands. Galen knew how to fight - Force incorporated with saber.