Batman vs. Punisher (with a twist)

Started by Sado227 pages

Somebody just mentioned some of Franks good h2h showings, you can ignore it if you wish. Anybody can debate by just making statements Frank can definetly get a few wins.

"somebody"?!! cry

....... Or we can just acknowledge what is true, which is that Batman is just better. Yes, Frank has gotten some wins against Daredevil, the Iron Fist, even Spiderman. But those had circumstances. Batman gets wins against ****ing White Martians, Kryptonians, and Thanagarians. Batman is one of the best martial artists in his universe... Frank isn't, and this isn't an arguable fact.

well, bats winning against those boys is either bad writing or low showing on their part. i remember the time when he put WonderWoman a chokehold or something and she couldn't break free. and who can forget batman taking blows from berserker superman and just being in the ICU........the same guy who can shatter planets and pretty much f0cked over a city with just the impact of his punches against Doomsday. so yeah, that's badwriting.
Frank winning against DD or Spidey isn't bad writing because those boys can't vape planets with their blows nor can they destroy buildings and what not. and he outbrawled/outsmarted them. that's believable. batman taking blows for Wondy or Supes and not dying is bad writing.

the point isn't that Batman is a better h2h fighter. we all know he is. the point is that Frank has done well and even beaten people who can make batman work for it. DareDevil and Batman is 50/50 thing, so is Bullseye and Bats. but Frank beat them because of what he's capable of dishing out and the kind of punishment he can absorb and his no-holds-barred

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
"somebody"?!! cry

Hey man **** you! 😛

Sorry man just kidding, sorry about that. 🙁

its okay. i don't give a f0ck about either 😱

Originally posted by Sado22
well its not as easy as people are making it. for some reason Frank always gets put down a few notches below some of the vets when it comes to h2h. in pure h2h combat Frank has stalemated DareDevil at one point when he finally got sick of him and decided to teach him a lesson. another time he actually beat DD and could've killed him if he wanted but spared him. Frank also did pretty well toe-to-toe with Tombstone, Wolverine and even defeated Bullseye himself. Frank's got amazing chin and he's got good combat knowledge himself. he's not a brawler but he's a vicious Martial artists whose not above fighting dirty. and he can get out of almost any kind of cuffs as we've seen in many situations. infact, he's done it so many times that he can now do it without making a sound. during civil war he did it right under Cap's nose.

I think Batman wins too but he's going to be busted up and peeing blood for a week.

dude...that's PIS and badwriting topped with a few drops of fanwank, marinated in bullshite and served with a rotten bollocks. darkseid, if we actually go by feats, would actually punch bruce and make him shit out his charred skeleton.
don't bring up such bad writing again.

~Sado

Btman should always be favored 8/10 against Frank in H2H.

in a pure H2H Fighting league Frank would at best be number 10 (probably lower top15) in the Rankings a good and tough gatekeeper good enough to trouble and occasionally beat the guys above him but not good enough to surpass them and beat them on a consistent basis.

Batman would be ranked around 3

Does Batman get to use his feat? He was kicking the hell out of all kind of monsters in the Batman/Superman comic.

Btman should always be favored 8/10 against Frank in H2H.

depends on the situation. frank is better at brawling, is unpredictable and will use any means necessary. Bats won't. Frank isn't above biting someone's whole cheek off (Baracuda etc) or clawing people with his fingers because of the "diamond manicure" he gives himself (powdering glass and pasting his finger nails with it).
Batman shouldn't be favored 8/10 against Frank. DareDevil is as good as Bats if not better. and lot of the time DD only managed to beat Frank because Frank was holding back. Frank never fought DD all out and the two times he did, he stalemated him and the next time defeated him. bats isn't immune to having his shoulders dislocated or his jaw or lower lip bitten off. that's the edge frank has.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
depends on the situation. frank is better at brawling, is unpredictable and will use any means necessary. Bats won't. Frank isn't above biting someone's whole cheek off (Baracuda etc) or clawing people with his fingers because of the "diamond manicure" he gives himself (powdering glass and pasting his finger nails with it).
Batman shouldn't be favored 8/10 against Frank. DareDevil is as good as Bats if not better. and lot of the time DD only managed to beat Frank because Frank was holding back. Frank never fought DD all out and the two times he did, he stalemated him and the next time defeated him. bats isn't immune to having his shoulders dislocated or his jaw or lower lip bitten off. that's the edge frank has.

~Sado

Bull

Batman holds back in that he does not want to kill anyone . He is perfectly willing and able to do permanent non lethal damage if the situation calls for it.

Batman should rightfully be favored 8/10

Punisher is at best lower top 10 on the H2H rankings

A batman going all out destroys him to much skill and every bit as ruthless as Fran whenthe situation calls for it.

If batman uses pressure points the fight probably end in the first two minutes .

Originally posted by godking

If batman uses pressure points the fight probably end in the first two minutes .

Thats interesting when they fought in JLA/Avengers Batman was fighting him for 20 minutes...oh well.

Originally posted by Sado22
its okay. i don't give a f0ck about either 😱

@#*& you! angrymob

Originally posted by godking
Bull

Batman holds back in that he does not want to kill anyone . He is perfectly willing and able to do permanent non lethal damage if the situation calls for it.

Batman should rightfully be favored 8/10

Punisher is at best lower top 10 on the H2H rankings

A batman going all out destroys him to much skill and every bit as ruthless as Fran whenthe situation calls for it.

If batman uses pressure points the fight probably end in the first two minutes .

IMO, Marvel's top MA would be only around second tier in DCU. So many of DCU's"peak humans"move and fight like how marvel portrays there meta MA's....IMO Bruce takes this for the full 10/10.

......no they wouldent be....if anything marvel has the superior MA's........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
......no they wouldent be....if anything marvel has the superior MA's........

How do u figure, DC MA can duplicate nearly any meta feat from marvel on the sheer basis of there MA dicipline and application....they don't need the intervention of some"external power source"to accomplish there feats.

😱

Marvel MAs >>>>>>>>> DC

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Punisher could squeak out the majority... but apparently I'm the only one. 😮

Eh. I think they could possibly stalemate. I see this as being a situation that could fluctuate randomly. They're both crafty as hell, which makes this even more interesting.

punisher cheats and throws something in batmans eyes then kicks him in the balls and then hits him in the nose sending his nose cartalage into his brain.

Batman wins "on paper" and by feats 10/10.

As someone said earlier, it's like matching batman vs batman lite.

batman gets punished

batman ftw

Bats would destroy Frank
With weapons or in pure H2H combat

No he wouldnt especially with current Punisher. I would still give Batman the majority.