Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Im still waiting for that well thought out and detailed explantion of how Frank last more then 10 seconds in h2hOh wait you dont have one 😂
Well for starters he stalemated a guy whos beaten Black Panther in combat, his feats have generally improved for example hes dodged machine gunfire at point blank range from enhanced humans who were highly trained. Hes also beaten or held his own against people in the past who could give Batman a hard time eg Moon Knight and Bullseye.
edit: Oh and in JLA/Avengers Batman was fighting Punisher for 20 minutes.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneSee that wasnt so hard was it
Well for starters he stalemated a guy whos beaten Black Panther in combat, his feats have generally improved for example hes dodged machine gunfire at point blank range from enhanced humans who were highly trained. Hes also beaten or held his own against people in the past who could give Batman a hard time eg Moon Knight and Bullseye.
Can I ask who he stalemated that beat BP? And was this in pure H2H combat? And did this guy beat BP in pure H2H combat?
Also dodging machine gun fire is something that most street levelers have done. The entire Bat family has been doing it for decades
Last time I read a Moonknight comic, he got launched off a roof
I know Bullseye is a pretty good fighter so I'll give you that
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
See that wasnt so hard was it
Dont give me that ive been giving your proof in that other thead as well.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Can I ask who he stalemated that beat BP? And was this in pure H2H combat? And did this guy beat BP in pure H2H combat?
Kraven The Hunters son. No it wasnt pure h2h but alot of fights arent, however it was a mixture of weapons and h2h. You can still use weapons as proof of h2h skill because similar skills are needed and would be use in weapons fights. Also unless we know that there are alot more skilled in using the weapon eg Black Knight we could still use it as proof.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Also dodging machine gun fire is something that most street levelers have done. The entire Bat family has been doing it for decades
Er you miseed the point. It was point blank and they were highly trained AND enhanced.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Last time I read a Moonknight comic, he got launched off a roof
So what hes held his own against Spiderman.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I know Bullseye is a pretty good fighter so I'll give you that
edit: Oh and in JLA/Avengers Batman was fighting Punisher for 20 minutes.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneDid Kravens kid fight BP fairly? And this was T'Challa correct? Not the new Black Panther?
Dont give me that ive been giving your proof in that other thead as well.Kraven The Hunters son. No it wasnt pure h2h but alot of fights arent, however it was a mixture of weapons and h2h.
Er you miseed the point. It was point blank and they were highly trained AND enhanced.
So what hes held his own against Spiderman.
edit: Oh and in JLA/Avengers Batman was fighting Punisher for 20 minutes.
Oh and I take crossovers with a grain of salt
And I think almost every street leveler including Punisher has held their own against Spidey
I personally think Spidey should be able to squash any street level character without PIS/CIS
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Did Kravens kid fight BP fairly? And this was T'Challa correct? Not the new Black Panther?
Yeah he did. In fact BP weapons were better. Yeah it was T'Challa.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Oh and I take crossovers with a grain of salt
Theres proof that its canon, based on some of Punishers showings thats how it would go.
Originally posted by XzpunisherAnd I think almost every street leveler including Punisher has held their own against Spidey
Not without guns and prep. Iron Fist hasnt.
Originally posted by Xzpunisher
I personally think Spidey should be able to squash any street level character without PIS/CIS
Well he does pull punches but not speed, MK still showed an indication of alot of skill.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah he did. In fact BP weapons were better. Yeah it was T'Challa.Theres proof that its canon, based on some of Punishers showings thats how it would go.
Not without guns and prep. Iron Fist hasnt.
Well he does pull punches but not speed, MK still showed an indication of alot of skill.
Was this in BP regular series? I want to see this fight
I think the only crossover thats canon is JLA/AVENGERS and I think its only canon to DC side
I know Daredevil and even beat Symbiote Spidey
I think IF is an exception, I know hes fought Nightcrawler and Colossus and knocked Colossus on his ass, and hes fought Sabretooth also